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A freshman getting called for a BS pass interference at the end of the Fiesta Bowl had me all
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Derrick Griffin said:
Watching him pass players along in zone was also a thing of beauty. Outside of the td to the TE ( came off a split second too late, he was money.
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He carried his WR into the endzone. That TE is a #2 inside (IIRC) and once he crossed about 7 yards vertical, depending on our zone rules, he should have been picked up by a Safety or inside DB. If I remember correctly, #8 randomly went inside the hash and away from the play. Not sure if that was by design, but either he blew the coverage or the coverage call was toast. There is no way for Jaboree to be responsible for an inside WR after he’s carried his vertical like 20 yards or whatever. Hetherman better clean this one up, as Ole Miss hit it at least 3x and seemed to have figured out our gaps. It’s a good concept - like flood or smash - that make CBs and Safeties really know their rules well and communicate accordingly.
 
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LuCane said:
He carried his WR into the endzone. That TE is a #2 inside (IIRC) and once he crossed about 7 yards vertical, depending on our zone rules, he should have been picked up by a Safety or inside DB. If I remember correctly, #8 randomly went inside the hash and away from the play. Not sure if that was by design, but either he blew the coverage or the coverage call was toast. There is no way for Jaboree to be responsible for an inside WR after he’s carried his vertical like 20 yards or whatever. Hetherman better clean this one up, as Ole Miss hit it at least 3x and seemed to have figured out our gaps. It’s a good concept - like flood or smash - that make CBs and Safeties really know their rules well and communicate accordingly.
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I’ll have to watch it back but it looked similar in real time to the basic play design they kept getting the TE open on the other side of the field that we never had an answer for
 
LuCane said:
He carried his WR into the endzone. That TE is a #2 inside (IIRC) and once he crossed about 7 yards vertical, depending on our zone rules, he should have been picked up by a Safety or inside DB. If I remember correctly, #8 randomly went inside the hash and away from the play. Not sure if that was by design, but either he blew the coverage or the coverage call was toast. There is no way for Jaboree to be responsible for an inside WR after he’s carried his vertical like 20 yards or whatever. Hetherman better clean this one up, as Ole Miss hit it at least 3x and seemed to have figured out our gaps. It’s a good concept - like flood or smash - that make CBs and Safeties really know their rules well and communicate accordingly.
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It was a really great play design by the Ole Miss staff. It looked like O'Conner played it the best the first time they ran it against our 3 deep (11:13 mark in the 4thQ), but he was still in a no win position. You know better than me, but the solution gotta be either the deep middle safety picks him up, or the CB comes off the outside WR behind the TE (like O'Conner did) while the LBer gets a heck of a lot more depth than Popo, Wes, and Toure got 3 times they ran it.

Edit: Also, Ole Miss ran the Jeremiah bomb play (2:38 3Q) against what looks like our 3 deep and the deep middle safety (Poyser) picked up the deep crosser just like Fitz did against OSU (so perhaps we were wrong @rsa coral gables and that's just the way we defend that play). So it appears our rules are if a guy is crossing deep from one side of the field to the other the deep middle picks him up, but apparently we don't do the same thing if the TE runs a pattern to a similar depth and place but without crossing the field.
 
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flips said:
It was a really great play design by the Ole Miss staff. It looked like O'Conner played it the best the first time they ran it against our 3 deep (11:13 mark in the 4thQ), but he was still in a no win position. You know better than me, but the solution gotta be either the deep middle safety picks him up, or the CB comes off the outside WR behind the TE (like O'Conner did) while the LBer gets a heck of a lot more depth than Popo, Wes, and Toure got 3 times they ran it.
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If both the outside WR and the inside receiver (TE here) go vertical beyond a certain preset level (we played it at 7 yards in Cover 3), that inside WR is the Safety’s man, which made corner routes and some out patterns difficult.

The way Thomas played it in the last Ole Miss TD was confusing. I have no idea what key he read, what he saw inside, or the coverage call. You don’t typically go hunt another route when the inside WR releases vertical. Mind you, I’m going from memory. I have to rewatch. There are also variations of Cover 3.
 
LuCane said:
If both the outside WR and the inside receiver (TE here) go vertical beyond a certain preset level (we played it at 7 yards in Cover 3), that inside WR is the Safety’s man, which made corner routes and some out patterns difficult.

The way Thomas played it in the last Ole Miss TD was confusing. I have no idea what key he read, what he saw inside, or the coverage call. You don’t typically go hunt another route when the inside WR releases vertical. Mind you, I’m going from memory. I have to rewatch. There are also variations of Cover 3.
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thanks I edited my post while you were replying, lemme know if I am way off drawing a comparison between the way we defended the Jeremiah bomb play against our cover 3 that Ole Miss cribbed.
 
flips said:
thanks I edited my post while you were replying, lemme know if I am way off drawing a comparison between the way we defended the Jeremiah bomb play against our cover 3 that Ole Miss cribbed.
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1/3 rules are typically about receiver depth. I played outside corner for too short of time to give any worthy insight, but I did feel like the presumption was the guy you’re facing is likely to end up in man in Cover 3 bc so many routes pierced 7 yards depth. Exchanges happened with very clear route combinations.

I don’t remember how deep the crosser was against OSU. I’d have to see the play again. But, listen, it’s Cover 3. You’re gaining an entire defender dropped down, so there will be a trade off. Perhaps what we need to do is disguise it better or mix it with quarters until we catch them. It seems like our defensive coaches have made nice adjustments at times this season, so sometimes it’s really just a pick your risk situation.

If you read my posts during the week, I thought Ole Miss would be a pain in the *** to defend bc they get the ball out so quickly. Outside of the explosive run, I thought we did a good job.
 
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