It's time to put UCF and the other Florida schools in their place

[SFbayCane]

Nah, we're talking about two different things. Yes, they unquestionably should have been proud about what they had achieved over the last couple of years. And all of their fans should have been super excited! Back then, I was excited for them too and was rooting them on to continue winning.

Then they crossed a threshold where it became we are THE best team in the country, we want bama!, we don't play anyone because everyone is "scared" to schedule us, hanging natty banners, having championship parades, fans talking about how they'd blast any P5 team in front of them, etc. Their fans lost their minds and became absolutely insufferable. THAT is where it became absurd and people like myself began not liking them.

Isn't that exactly what I said above?

And again, you and I seem to differ on what "**** talking" is. Of course they're gonna say they're the best. That was makes it **** talk.

If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly for God sakes.

 

[ncncanes]

Next year they play Stanford, Pitt and Cincy 3 weeks in a row

 

[504CANE4LIFE]

1988 is every bit as light on support as 1986. We played eventual national champion Notre Dame and lost. UCF's argument is that it never had an opportunity on the field. Some of those Canes seasons featured direct opportunity and failure.

2000 is the most laughable of all. Many Canes fans rooted against a national championship, yet now we are trying to claim it. If that is not priceless hypocrisy I don't know what qualifies.

The Canes would have split the title with Florida State, as long as the Seminoles defeated Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl as 11.5 point favorite. There was zero question that the Associated Press poll would have favored Miami. But I was in Miami that day, vacationing from Las Vegas. The local sports radio talk shows were flooded with genius Canes fans who were frothing that they were going to root for Oklahoma, simply to spite Florida State. It was hysterical stupidity. We hadn't won the title since 1991 and no guarantee of anything in the future yet braindead fans were actually bragging about their moron status, the total lack of comprehension regarding the big picture. We defeated Florida State head to head that year and would have split the title. We win every argument via that head to head result. We add a digit to our tally, further separating from Florida while maintaining the same gap from Florida State. But Miami fans in glorious clairvoyance preferred to remain stuck at 4 titles and hand the whole enchilada to Oklahoma.

I have actually seen posts in recent years with those same geniuses insisting that they did the right thing in rooting for Oklahoma.

I tip my hat to every fan that went with OU. No way in **** a Miami fan should ever cheer for fsu. Forget what the hypocrisy police talking bout that's part of the Miami 10 commandments probably the 1st commandment, never cheer for fsu. Sorry I have to disagree with you on that one if we didn't play in the game(of course they robbed us) I never want to see them win the game.

 

[For_The_U]

And again, you and I seem to differ on what "**** talking" is. Of course they're gonna say they're the best. That was makes it **** talk.

If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly for God sakes.

LOL Great last quote. Fair enough, I relent! ;-)

 

[Legendary1]

Speaking of Central Florida...
Are we the only FBS football team, that has won a National Title within the past 25 years, that has played them in a true 1 for 1 (1 game at our place and 1 game at their place)?
2008 in Miami
2009 in Orlando
We are their largest home game at Spectrum Stadium in their history so far according to below.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_Stadium

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Astounding? They’re located next door to the largest talent pool in the nation, and have taken advantage of it beating up on lower tier teams.

The following must have slipped your mind, but there's a team known as the University of Miami Hurricanes who aren't located next door to the largest talent pool in the nation, they are located smack, dab in the middle of the largest talent pool in the nation.

Yet, over the last 15-years, absent 2017, that University of Miami Hurricanes Football Program has played and been humiliated by "lower tier" teams that UCF would beat by 50 points. The same story is true of FSU and the Florida Gators, although their reign of underperformance isn't as long as 15-years.

Additionally, Miami, FSU, Florida, South Florida, Alabama, Georgia, and others all fish in that same talent pool you speak of.

To be clear, I am not a UCF enthusiast and find their fans to be delusional (see HERD), but the Canes coaches would crawl across hot coals to have a QB with McKenzie Milton's talent. The UCF program has taken in those the major program did not want and developed them into a cohesive team...just ask Auburn!

 

[1mg of Epi]

The following must have slipped your mind, but there's a team known as the University of Miami Hurricanes who aren't located next door to the largest talent pool in the nation, they are located smack, dab in the middle of the largest talent pool in the nation.

Yet, over the last 15-years, absent 2017, that University of Miami Hurricanes Football Program has played and been humiliated by "lower tier" teams that UCF would beat by 50 points. The same story is true of FSU and the Florida Gators, although their reign of underperformance isn't as long as 15-years.

Additionally, Miami, FSU, Florida, South Florida, Alabama, Georgia, and others all fish in that same talent pool you speak of.

To be clear, I am not a UCF enthusiast and find their fans to be delusional (see HERD), but the Canes coaches would crawl across hot coals to have a QB with McKenzie Milton's talent. The UCF program has taken in those the major program did not want and developed them into a cohesive team...just ask Auburn!

Correct... UCF also has far superior coaching than um had had over that period. Which has been my complaint... we’ve had bad coaching. I’m glad we agree!!

And yes.. UCF has has good talent relative to its competitors as has Miami.

 

[Twhizman]

Yea man, the ACC CoaRstal is tough!

Wonder if ucf would be competitive in the coastal.tell the truth last 15 years we have nothing to brag about except 1 coastal division title.but that's about to change in a bit way.until it does we don't have much to brag about.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Correct... UCF also has far superior coaching than um had had over that period. Which has been my complaint... we’ve had bad coaching. I’m glad we agree!!

Wait a second! You earlier said that UCF's success was owed to being; " located next door to the largest talent pool in the nation". No mention of coaching one way or the other. Additionally, you then went on to infer that UCF's success was also due to "beating up on inferior opponents". Again, no mention of coaching.

You are simply trolling for a beef...I'm not gonna play!

 

[1mg of Epi]

@Earnest T. Bass you know I ain’t gonna troll u.

I didn’t mention coaching initially, that’s why my reply (I thought) made it clear I should have.

Yes good coaches are needed to take advantage of the talent pool, and also of the inferior competition. Proof of this is that their HCs keep going to P5 schools.

Over the last 15 years, Ive wished UM had coaching superior to it’s peers. **** I wished it had coaching just equivalent to its peers.

So all that *****ing w my herd brethren, was all about that coaching deficit, which you obviously saw too!

 

[For_The_U]

Like others, I am not in love with UCF anointing themselves as National Champions. But, as SFbayCane pointed out, what they have accomplished over the past number of years is nothing short of astounding.

I too considered UCF to be a flash in the pan but after closely watching them during the last 3 seasons it became abundantly clear to me that they are anything but a flash in the pan. Further, it appears they might be qualified to step-up to a conference that will, in fact, put them in the National Championship conversation.

Any Florida football program that underestimates UCF does so at their own peril. By the way, didn't they do quite well capturing players out of the portal? I know they took down the Notre Dame QB.

Two years of beating garbage AAC teams and winning ONE game over a bigtime P5 team has you now saying they are close to being a National Championship-caliber program? Ridiculous. The odds are exponentially higher that UCF returns back to being a mid-major irrelevant program than becoming one of the nation's elite. The best evidence as to whether UCF is truly climbing the ranks THAT high as a program will be them winning recruiting battles for the bluechips over established powerhouses. Even in the best 2 year run the school has ever had, that hasn't happened a single time. Definitional flash in the pan.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

@Earnest T. Bass you know I ain’t gonna troll u.

I didn’t mention coaching initially, that’s why my reply (I thought) made it clear I should have.

Yes good coaches are needed to take advantage of the talent pool, and also of the inferior competition. Proof of this is that their HCs keep going to P5 schools.

Over the last 15 years, Ive wished UM had coaching superior to it’s peers. **** I wished it had coaching just equivalent to its peers.

So all that *****ing w my herd brethren, was all about that coaching deficit, which you obviously saw too!

The HERD ******* about EVERYTHING UM. They want to fire every coach, administrator, and bench or kick every player off the team at one time or another. The 15-year long HERD disease has significantly damaged recruiting, and sadly, next season, after the first interception, long drive by an opposing team, close game, mistake of any kind, the HERD will be back burning the program to the ground.

I have enjoyed the recent respite from the 24/7 hate, lies, misleading statements, et al., and reading the many positive comments, but regrettably, it is only temporary!

 

[kccanefan]

The HERD ******* about EVERYTHING UM. They want to fire every coach, administrator, and bench or kick every player off the team at one time or another. The 15-year long HERD disease has significantly damaged recruiting, and sadly, next season, after the first interception, long drive by an opposing team, close game, mistake of any kind, the HERD will be back burning the program to the ground.

I have enjoyed the recent respite from the 24/7 hate, lies, misleading statements, et al., and reading the many positive comments, but regrettably, it is only temporary!