It starts with the right coach

Ethnicsands

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There are two often cited theories about what a UM coach should be, both of which have been proven failures.

First is the candidate with a UM connection. This is premised on there being something magical (special) about UM that must be ‘tapped into.’ In the absence of a great coach, this clearly isn’t accurate. Shannon was that theory. Richt was partly that theory. Manny seems to be that theory.

Second is the ‘ceo’ there. This is premised on Miami’s natural conditions being such that a decent manager will ride the tide upwards here. This too is a ‘magical’ theory because it supposes that our natural destiny is success and it will become manifest as long as no one interferes. Golden was a ‘ceo’ theory guy. Some saw Richt as that also. The reality is that the local talent theory has been misunderstood and overplayed for ages around here. We’re coming up on 30 years since the bermuda triangle. One title in the meantime, and it took 19 first round picks to make it happen.

One additional note: being a good coordinator does not mean you will be a good head coach. That should be obvious. They are very different skill sets. We have seen great head coaches who weren't great coordinators and great coordinators who didn’t make great head coaches. The coordinator hire is an excuse to project onto someone. It’s probably less risky in the NFL, where the team has a President, GM, player personnel director etc. And maybe big time state programs that have more support. At a place like UM without the structure and infrastructure, it’s a crap shoot. Shannon, Diaz.

If you have a good coach, the program building is incremental. People too often look at examples of where it happened fast, but ignore the probabilities. Good coaches keep it going in the right direction, sell, upgrade, refine, innovate, etc. Eventually, with time, effort and perhaps good fortune, they get it to a top level.

So what makes for a good coach? Someone who can get a team to mesh, buy in, play together. Someone who can pick a philosophy, form a staff to implement it, and lead the staff. Someone who knows where to intervene and where not to. Someone who can evaluate kids, and sell them on the program. Schematic genius isn’t required. Coordinators don’t have to be good at these things, and we often don’t have a way to know if they are. It may be impossible to know who will be good at this, so many, probably most coaches start out someone out of the way and build their careers towards big time programs.

If this is right, Manny was a risky hire, and hired for the wrong reasons. Let’s hope he beats the odds.
 
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@Ethnicsands great post.

Curious to what your thoughts are on hiring a guy with success from a lower-tier program (Golden) or a guy with some success at a major program (Richt). Right now we are seeing Fuente and Taggart get their asses kicked. The selling point on Richt was that he did pretty good at UGA and with our talent, we should win championships. Obviously neither Golden nor Richt worked out.
 
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There are two often cited theories about what a UM coach should be, both of which have been proven failures.

First is the candidate with a UM connection. This is premised on there being something magical (special) about UM that must be ‘tapped into.’ In the absence of a great coach, this clearly isn’t accurate. Shannon was that theory. Richt was partly that theory. Manny seems to be that theory.

Second is the ‘ceo’ there. This is premised on Miami’s natural conditions being such that a decent manager will ride the tide upwards here. This too is a ‘magical’ theory because it supposes that our natural destiny is success and it will become manifest as long as no one interferes. Golden was a ‘ceo’ theory guy. Some saw Richt as that also. The reality is that the local talent theory has been misunderstood and overplayed for ages around here. We’re coming up on 30 years since the bermuda triangle. One title in the meantime, and it took 19 first round picks to make it happen.

One additional note: being a good coordinator does not mean you will be a good head coach. That should be obvious. They are very different skill sets. We have seen great head coaches who weren't great coordinators and great coordinators who didn’t make great head coaches. The coordinator hire is an excuse to project onto someone. It’s probably less risky in the NFL, where the team has a President, GM, player personnel director etc. And maybe big time state programs that have more support. At a place like UM without the structure and infrastructure, it’s a crap shoot. Shannon, Diaz.

If you have a good coach, the program building is incremental. People too often look at examples of where it happened fast, but ignore the probabilities. Good coaches keep it going in the right direction, sell, upgrade, refine, innovate, etc. Eventually, with time, effort and perhaps good fortune, they get it to a top level.

So what makes for a good coach? Someone who can get a team to mesh, buy in, play together. Someone who can pick a philosophy, form a staff to implement it, and lead the staff. Someone who knows where to intervene and where not to. Someone who can evaluate kids, and sell them on the program. Schematic genius isn’t required. Coordinators don’t have to be good at these things, and we often don’t have a way to know if they are. It may be impossible to know who will be good at this, so many, probably most coaches start out someone out of the way and build their careers towards big time programs.

If this is right, Manny was a risky hire, and hired for the wrong reasons. Let’s hope he beats the odds.
Great post my friend. Hit a lot of nails on the head. Yes it would be great if Diaz beat the odds because that means we won but I’ll leave you with this, the casinos rarely loose and that’s because the odds are against the gambler just like they are on Diaz.
 
HC is made by his coordinators. He needs to croot pretty well and have no issues cutting the extra baggage to get better. Don’t hire friends don’t hire family
 
@Ethnicsands great post.

Curious to what your thoughts are on hiring a guy with success from a lower-tier program (Golden) or a guy with some success at a major program (Richt). Right now we are seeing Fuente and Taggart get their asses kicked. The selling point on Richt was that he did pretty good at UGA and with our talent, we should win championships. Obviously neither Golden nor Richt worked out.
It’s hard to say one works better than the other. Kirby was never even a head coach. Neither was Lincoln Riley. Programs like that will overcome. It’s hard for us. A real crap shoot
 
It should be obvious to everybody that there's no formula for getting the right guy. Any strategy can work or fail.

Of course what should be obvious and what CIS chooses to believe are rarely the same.

OP mentions that a good coach gets it headed in the right direction. How do we know Manny hasn't? We all expected more, but should we have? Last season sucked balls, it wasn't too hard to imagine this season might do the same. This is largely the same team that lost to all those crap opponents last season, why should we expect it to not lose to crap opponents this season?

My measure would be this: do we improve this season? Does it look obvious that the team we have at the end of the year would have whipped uf? If so, then I think there's still a chance we've found the guy.
 
It’s hard to say one works better than the other. Kirby was never even a head coach. Neither was Lincoln Riley. Programs like that will overcome. It’s hard for us. A real crap shoot

Agree.
You can also look at a guy like Jim Tressel, who had success at Ohio State (putting aside his resignation and related scandal) after coming over from Youngstown State.
For every Jim Tressel though, I suspect there are other successful lower tier coaches that didn’t pan out at this level.
 
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@Ethnicsands great post.

Curious to what your thoughts are on hiring a guy with success from a lower-tier program (Golden) or a guy with some success at a major program (Richt). Right now we are seeing Fuente and Taggart get their asses kicked. The selling point on Richt was that he did pretty good at UGA and with our talent, we should win championships. Obviously neither Golden nor Richt worked out.
Andrew, I anticipated your question and thought about it.

Golden - the issue was, he didn’t really have so much success at a lower tier program. We didn’t do our homework there at all. Some posters were on this immediately. Miami nites IIRC was one. It’s critical to assess, and we blew that one - not just in the sense that it didn’t work in retrospect. Temple went up by changing conferences. And Golden traded a blip for a new gig. He was not well proven at a lower tier program(losing record, 3 of r losing seasons, and progress yes but against backdrop of dropping competitive level), and the things that you want to see a coach excel at, you couldn’t confirm he could do excellently. We reached too far, and projected onto him. He looked the part, Penn State, blah blah. And again, we projected CEO, which is a terrible theory to begin with, all because we believed UM’s situation makes it okay to hire a manager. False. We need a leader. A program builder.

Richt - Similar mistake. How much success did he really have? And due to what on his part? Major state program, great local talent, booster base. Overlap Clemson wasn’t yet rolling, FSU was declining, and Alabama only got rolling well into his tenure. Richt was in all likelihood a mirage. People projected onto him because they wanted to. He isn’t a schematic innovator. The UM connection and CEO theories are fails. He isn’t, IMO, a real leader. He’s a guy who was there, looked the part, and thought he was great when he wasn’t. And again, the ‘local talent’ theory is just bunk. It’s entirely the wrong way to look at this program’s needs, IMO.

Fuente kind of fits my theory. Coordinator, scheme guy. And good at that. But not a program builder or leader. Maybe he’ll turn it around, but I doubt it. Taggart, lol.

It’ll be interesting to see how Herman and Frost do at UT and NB. Heupel and Riley seem like really good coaches. The solid program, not extraordinary types (but good coaches, dependable and could do it with time) include Whittingham, Chryst, Ferentz, Cutcliffe, Mullen, Gundy, Dantonio, Fitzgerald, Malzahn.

There aren’t that many program build type coaches, and UM as a program at this point is a complete rebuild. We cannot expect to win just with a clever scheme guy. I’m not sure anyone should expect that, but clearly without the infrastructure here, we cannot.

The guys who could turn our program are unattainable unfortunately. Peterson and Patterson ain’t coming. Obviously Saban, Dabo, those types aren’t. Matt Campbell is an interesting guy to watch. Not yet sure how to classify him.
 
It’s hard to say one works better than the other. Kirby was never even a head coach. Neither was Lincoln Riley. Programs like that will overcome. It’s hard for us. A real crap shoot
I disagree. If you hire someone who you know has succeeded as a HC, you’re reducing the risk substantially. It doesn’t guarantee it will translate, but you can assess better. Projecting a coordinator is tricky. You’re not hiring s coordinator.

It’s also really hard to compare guys who have the institutional and booster support of UGA or TX or Oklahoma to someone coaching without those things.

The best example to me of a real program build recently has been UCF. They are becoming what we used to be.
 
I disagree. If you hire someone who you know has succeeded as a HC, you’re reducing the risk substantially. It doesn’t guarantee it will translate, but you can assess better. Projecting a coordinator is tricky. You’re not hiring s coordinator.

It’s also really hard to compare guys who have the institutional and booster support of UGA or TX or Oklahoma to someone coaching without those things.

The best example to me of a real program build recently has been UCF. They are becoming what we used to be.
Nope. Ucf cares about their program and their ad has done a great job at hiring coaches.
 
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