is al tryin to keep his job?

[OrangetieFatface]

So you expected Golden to have built an elite team under the **** this program faced the last 3 years with the NCAA crap going on? Golden faced a major rebuilding job to begin with without the threat of NCAA sanctions looming.. That just made it more difficult. But yeah let's live in make pretend world and pretend that didn't impact the team in a major way.
U ***ers need a dose of reality jeesh..

So the sanctions and the cloud were the reason we allowed 90 points to Duke and VT last year? Is that why we chit the bed? Is that why we're 15-13 in the ACC?

I feel better now. We need to extend Golden before it is too late.

Actually in a way yes.. Defensive depth was thin especially at DLINE. Also defensive talent was shoddy especially the seniors. Recruits being swayed due to the NCAA uncertainties was well documented. Funny how with improved talent and depth this year we shut both VT and Duke down.

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

Right. Losing 30 of 70 recruits is an indicator of a bigger problem. That's not dumb luck, that's lack of understanding how to manage people.

 

[The Franchise]

Why are you arguing incessantly with imbeciles, Consigliere? This exhaustive back and forth for 30 pages in every thread with these imbeciles is brutal. Just clown him and move on, man. It's like arguing with a grouper.

 

[Consigliere]

So you expected Golden to have built an elite team under the **** this program faced the last 3 years with the NCAA crap going on? Golden faced a major rebuilding job to begin with without the threat of NCAA sanctions looming.. That just made it more difficult. But yeah let's live in make pretend world and pretend that didn't impact the team in a major way.
U ***ers need a dose of reality jeesh..

So the sanctions and the cloud were the reason we allowed 90 points to Duke and VT last year? Is that why we chit the bed? Is that why we're 15-13 in the ACC?

I feel better now. We need to extend Golden before it is too late.

Actually in a way yes.. Defensive depth was thin especially at DLINE. Also defensive talent was shoddy especially the seniors. Recruits being swayed due to the NCAA uncertainties was well documented. Funny how with improved talent and depth this year we shut both VT and Duke down.

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

But according to the recruiting websites we're bringing in plenty of talent. More than almost everyone we play (short of FSU). We had (have) more talent than VT and Duke but we let them score 90 points against us last year. Perhaps we just have crappy ***** teaching and developing the talent.

 

[Canezum5]

So you expected Golden to have built an elite team under the **** this program faced the last 3 years with the NCAA crap going on? Golden faced a major rebuilding job to begin with without the threat of NCAA sanctions looming.. That just made it more difficult. But yeah let's live in make pretend world and pretend that didn't impact the team in a major way.
U ***ers need a dose of reality jeesh..

So the sanctions and the cloud were the reason we allowed 90 points to Duke and VT last year? Is that why we chit the bed? Is that why we're 15-13 in the ACC?

I feel better now. We need to extend Golden before it is too late.

Actually in a way yes.. Defensive depth was thin especially at DLINE. Also defensive talent was shoddy especially the seniors. Recruits being swayed due to the NCAA uncertainties was well documented. Funny how with improved talent and depth this year we shut both VT and Duke down.

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

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I don't think Randy's players were all that bad. The problem has always been golden trying to force his scheme on to the players. Sure, there is no scheme to make bad players great but there is still a scheme that will make lesser players look better.

The coaching here is horrendous and the talent excuse is foolish as plenty of randy recruits are and will have some type of nfl career. They may not have been high profile but they weren't that bad.

Golden just can't coach Miami football and he can't field a disciplined team to save his life. He is In over his head in Miami. It all started with trying to change the scheme and philosophy on defense.

Big no no. That was a cloud in and of itself. Charlie strong was able to create a dominant team with leftover Florida recruits. Oleary was able to create a dominant UFC team with Florida backup players. Even with the cloud we have pulled in multiple stud high profile players but can't dominate wake forest? No excites for that. All coaching.

Golden is what he is and that's not a good coach for Miami hurricanes football

 

[DaU83]

So the sanctions and the cloud were the reason we allowed 90 points to Duke and VT last year? Is that why we chit the bed? Is that why we're 15-13 in the ACC?

I feel better now. We need to extend Golden before it is too late.

Actually in a way yes.. Defensive depth was thin especially at DLINE. Also defensive talent was shoddy especially the seniors. Recruits being swayed due to the NCAA uncertainties was well documented. Funny how with improved talent and depth this year we shut both VT and Duke down.

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

But according to the recruiting websites we're bringing in plenty of talent. More than almost everyone we play (short of FSU). We had (have) more talent than VT and Duke but we let them score 90 points against us last year. Perhaps we just have crappy ***** teaching and developing the talent.

We are. Which is why I have some patience. We're bringing in good talent, but that doesn't mean instant results. Golden doesn't have a sr. Class yet. Jimbo fisher took over a much better situation and it still took him 4 years to get to a championship caliber team. We want golden to do the same, starting from a worse situation.

 

[hcanes100]

 

[Consigliere]

Actually in a way yes.. Defensive depth was thin especially at DLINE. Also defensive talent was shoddy especially the seniors. Recruits being swayed due to the NCAA uncertainties was well documented. Funny how with improved talent and depth this year we shut both VT and Duke down.

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

But according to the recruiting websites we're bringing in plenty of talent. More than almost everyone we play (short of FSU). We had (have) more talent than VT and Duke but we let them score 90 points against us last year. Perhaps we just have crappy ***** teaching and developing the talent.

We are. Which is why I have some patience. We're bringing in good talent, but that doesn't mean instant results. Golden doesn't have a sr. Class yet. Jimbo fisher took over a much better situation and it still took him 4 years to get to a championship caliber team. We want golden to do the same, starting from a worse situation.

Jimbo won the Atlantic and 10 games in year 1. In year 3 he won the ACC and the Orange Bowl. Jimbo actually made REAL improvements right away and this is his first HC gig. Al Golden is not Jimbo Fisher because Jimbo actually wins games. Jimbo's worst season is Al Golden's best season.

Al Golden is 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

So you expected Golden to have built an elite team under the **** this program faced the last 3 years with the NCAA crap going on? Golden faced a major rebuilding job to begin with without the threat of NCAA sanctions looming.. That just made it more difficult. But yeah let's live in make pretend world and pretend that didn't impact the team in a major way.
U ***ers need a dose of reality jeesh..

So the sanctions and the cloud were the reason we allowed 90 points to Duke and VT last year? Is that why we chit the bed? Is that why we're 15-13 in the ACC?

I feel better now. We need to extend Golden before it is too late.

Actually in a way yes.. Defensive depth was thin especially at DLINE. Also defensive talent was shoddy especially the seniors. Recruits being swayed due to the NCAA uncertainties was well documented. Funny how with improved talent and depth this year we shut both VT and Duke down.

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

Again, Golden inherited a spotty roster with little talent.. Actually no talent.
And the talent that he did inherit, didn't want to risk sticking around an extra year due to due the NCAA investigation.
So the list above can be explained easily as a mix of having a ****** roster that Golden couldn't fix appropriately due to looming NCAA sanctions.

 

[Consigliere]

So you expected Golden to have built an elite team under the **** this program faced the last 3 years with the NCAA crap going on? Golden faced a major rebuilding job to begin with without the threat of NCAA sanctions looming.. That just made it more difficult. But yeah let's live in make pretend world and pretend that didn't impact the team in a major way.
U ***ers need a dose of reality jeesh..

So the sanctions and the cloud were the reason we allowed 90 points to Duke and VT last year? Is that why we chit the bed? Is that why we're 15-13 in the ACC?

I feel better now. We need to extend Golden before it is too late.

Actually in a way yes.. Defensive depth was thin especially at DLINE. Also defensive talent was shoddy especially the seniors. Recruits being swayed due to the NCAA uncertainties was well documented. Funny how with improved talent and depth this year we shut both VT and Duke down.

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

Again, Golden inherited a spotty roster with little talent.. Actually no talent.
And the talent that he did inherit, didn't want to risk sticking around an extra year due to due the NCAA investigation.
So the list above can be explained easily as a mix of having a ****ty roster that Golden couldn't fix appropriately due to looming NCAA sanctions.

Oh Talent. That is why you predicted the following last year:

Those of yous doubting the defense will be pleasantly surprised.
Top 30 defense easily. May break a defensive turnaround record.

 

[DaU83]

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

But according to the recruiting websites we're bringing in plenty of talent. More than almost everyone we play (short of FSU). We had (have) more talent than VT and Duke but we let them score 90 points against us last year. Perhaps we just have crappy ***** teaching and developing the talent.

We are. Which is why I have some patience. We're bringing in good talent, but that doesn't mean instant results. Golden doesn't have a sr. Class yet. Jimbo fisher took over a much better situation and it still took him 4 years to get to a championship caliber team. We want golden to do the same, starting from a worse situation.

Jimbo won the Atlantic and 10 games in year 1. In year 3 he won the ACC and the Orange Bowl. Jimbo actually made REAL improvements right away and this is his first HC gig. Al Golden is not Jimbo Fisher because Jimbo actually wins games. Jimbo's worst season is Al Golden's best season.

Al Golden is 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4.

Again, starting from a better situation.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

And the cloud explains the following?

Here is every L since 2012 (12 in Total)

UL in 2014 (31)
NEB in 2014 (41)
GT in 2014 (28)
Duke in 2013 (48)
VT in 2013 (42)
FSU in 2013 (41)
UL in 2013 (36)
KSU in 2012 (52)
ND in 2012 (41)
FSU in 2012 (33)
UVA in 2012 (41)
UNC in 2012 (18)

Average Points Allowed in a Loss: 37.67 Points
11/12 Games our D allowed 28+ or More

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

But according to the recruiting websites we're bringing in plenty of talent. More than almost everyone we play (short of FSU). We had (have) more talent than VT and Duke but we let them score 90 points against us last year. Perhaps we just have crappy ***** teaching and developing the talent.

We are. Which is why I have some patience. We're bringing in good talent, but that doesn't mean instant results. Golden doesn't have a sr. Class yet. Jimbo fisher took over a much better situation and it still took him 4 years to get to a championship caliber team. We want golden to do the same, starting from a worse situation.

Jimbo won the Atlantic and 10 games in year 1. In year 3 he won the ACC and the Orange Bowl. Jimbo actually made REAL improvements right away and this is his first HC gig. Al Golden is not Jimbo Fisher because Jimbo actually wins games. Jimbo's worst season is Al Golden's best season.

Al Golden is 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4.

Jimbo was HC in waiting at FSU for 3 years prior to being promoted. He recruited a lot of the players he inherited. There was no learning curve with trying to figure players out.
Jimbo didn't have NCAA investigation distractions and suspensions and bowl bans and low player moral.
Despite this, Jimbo managed to lose to WF and NC STATE.. No team Golden lost to had that wide of a talent gap like FSU had compared to WF and NC STATE..

 

[Consigliere]

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

But according to the recruiting websites we're bringing in plenty of talent. More than almost everyone we play (short of FSU). We had (have) more talent than VT and Duke but we let them score 90 points against us last year. Perhaps we just have crappy ***** teaching and developing the talent.

We are. Which is why I have some patience. We're bringing in good talent, but that doesn't mean instant results. Golden doesn't have a sr. Class yet. Jimbo fisher took over a much better situation and it still took him 4 years to get to a championship caliber team. We want golden to do the same, starting from a worse situation.

Jimbo won the Atlantic and 10 games in year 1. In year 3 he won the ACC and the Orange Bowl. Jimbo actually made REAL improvements right away and this is his first HC gig. Al Golden is not Jimbo Fisher because Jimbo actually wins games. Jimbo's worst season is Al Golden's best season.

Al Golden is 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4.

Again, starting from a better situation.

Oh. That is it.

So let me ask you something. If after this season we finish 5-3 in the ACC. Which would mean the following:

2011: 3-5
2012: 5-3
2013: 5-3
2014: 5-3

What does that tell you about Al and Co?

 

[DaU83]

But according to the recruiting websites we're bringing in plenty of talent. More than almost everyone we play (short of FSU). We had (have) more talent than VT and Duke but we let them score 90 points against us last year. Perhaps we just have crappy ***** teaching and developing the talent.

We are. Which is why I have some patience. We're bringing in good talent, but that doesn't mean instant results. Golden doesn't have a sr. Class yet. Jimbo fisher took over a much better situation and it still took him 4 years to get to a championship caliber team. We want golden to do the same, starting from a worse situation.

Jimbo won the Atlantic and 10 games in year 1. In year 3 he won the ACC and the Orange Bowl. Jimbo actually made REAL improvements right away and this is his first HC gig. Al Golden is not Jimbo Fisher because Jimbo actually wins games. Jimbo's worst season is Al Golden's best season.

Al Golden is 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4.

Again, starting from a better situation.

Oh. That is it.

So let me ask you something. If after this season we finish 5-3 in the ACC. Which would mean the following:

2011: 3-5
2012: 5-3
2013: 5-3
2014: 5-3

What does that tell you about Al and Co?

If we go 3 -1 and play well against fsu, and win a bowl I'll feel good going into next season.

 

[Consigliere]

When you need to bring in talent, it does have some effect on that. The scheme of course doesn't help, but there's no magic scheme to make up for bad players.

But according to the recruiting websites we're bringing in plenty of talent. More than almost everyone we play (short of FSU). We had (have) more talent than VT and Duke but we let them score 90 points against us last year. Perhaps we just have crappy ***** teaching and developing the talent.

We are. Which is why I have some patience. We're bringing in good talent, but that doesn't mean instant results. Golden doesn't have a sr. Class yet. Jimbo fisher took over a much better situation and it still took him 4 years to get to a championship caliber team. We want golden to do the same, starting from a worse situation.

Jimbo won the Atlantic and 10 games in year 1. In year 3 he won the ACC and the Orange Bowl. Jimbo actually made REAL improvements right away and this is his first HC gig. Al Golden is not Jimbo Fisher because Jimbo actually wins games. Jimbo's worst season is Al Golden's best season.

Al Golden is 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4.

Jimbo was HC in waiting at FSU for 3 years prior to being promoted. He recruited a lot of the players he inherited. There was no learning curve with trying to figure players out.
Jimbo didn't have NCAA investigation distractions and suspensions and bowl bans and low player moral.
Despite this, Jimbo managed to lose to WF and NC STATE.. No team Golden lost to had that wide of a talent gap like FSU had compared to WF and NC STATE..

Oh. So HC in waiting means you're expected to win 10 wins in your first season something FSU didn't do since 2003. Good to know. Even though Jimbo has never coached a defense or been the head coach before, it is expected to have those results because you're the Head Coach In Waiting.

The cloud is not the reason we allowed 90 points to VT and Duke. It isn't the reason we allowed 33.3 PPG in our 3 losses this year. It isn't the reason we looked like chit against UL in the bowl game. It also isn't the reason (since 2012) our defense has allowed on average 37.67 Points. Keep living your fantasy.

A few side notes:

1. When Jimbo lost to NCState in 2010, NCState finished 9-4 and led by Russell Wilson (he good and chit). People are willing to forgive a WF loss when you win the National Championship. Sometimes coaches lose games they should win. When they achieve greater things (see Nick Saban), nobody brings them up.

2. Bad Losses: Al Golden managed to lose to a 4-8 UVA team in 2012 and a 4-8 BC team in 2011. Those were fun!

3. Jimbo is still able to keep winning even though he has been asked non-stop about Rapist Winston the Crab Thief. It doesn't bother FSU.

 

[Consigliere]

We are. Which is why I have some patience. We're bringing in good talent, but that doesn't mean instant results. Golden doesn't have a sr. Class yet. Jimbo fisher took over a much better situation and it still took him 4 years to get to a championship caliber team. We want golden to do the same, starting from a worse situation.

Jimbo won the Atlantic and 10 games in year 1. In year 3 he won the ACC and the Orange Bowl. Jimbo actually made REAL improvements right away and this is his first HC gig. Al Golden is not Jimbo Fisher because Jimbo actually wins games. Jimbo's worst season is Al Golden's best season.

Al Golden is 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4.

Again, starting from a better situation.

Oh. That is it.

So let me ask you something. If after this season we finish 5-3 in the ACC. Which would mean the following:

2011: 3-5
2012: 5-3
2013: 5-3
2014: 5-3

What does that tell you about Al and Co?

If we go 3 -1 and play well against fsu, and win a bowl I'll feel good going into next season.

That isn't why I asked.

If Al goes 5-3 for the THIRD STRAIGHT SEASON (0-4 to FSU), what does that tell you about Al and Co?

 

[DaU83]

Jimbo won the Atlantic and 10 games in year 1. In year 3 he won the ACC and the Orange Bowl. Jimbo actually made REAL improvements right away and this is his first HC gig. Al Golden is not Jimbo Fisher because Jimbo actually wins games. Jimbo's worst season is Al Golden's best season.

Al Golden is 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4. 5-3 in year 4.

Again, starting from a better situation.

Oh. That is it.

So let me ask you something. If after this season we finish 5-3 in the ACC. Which would mean the following:

2011: 3-5
2012: 5-3
2013: 5-3
2014: 5-3

What does that tell you about Al and Co?

If we go 3 -1 and play well against fsu, and win a bowl I'll feel good going into next season.

That isn't why I asked.

If Al goes 5-3 for the THIRD STRAIGHT SEASON (0-4 to FSU), what does that tell you about Al and Co?

You can't deny the big picture. It tells me we're not where we want to be. But I don't think that's als ceiling.

 

[Consigliere]

Again, starting from a better situation.

Oh. That is it.

So let me ask you something. If after this season we finish 5-3 in the ACC. Which would mean the following:

2011: 3-5
2012: 5-3
2013: 5-3
2014: 5-3

What does that tell you about Al and Co?

If we go 3 -1 and play well against fsu, and win a bowl I'll feel good going into next season.

That isn't why I asked.

If Al goes 5-3 for the THIRD STRAIGHT SEASON (0-4 to FSU), what does that tell you about Al and Co?

You can't deny the big picture. It tells me we're not where we want to be. But I don't think that's als ceiling.

So he needs another year? But he repeated the exact same result the last 3 years.

 

[OrangetieFatface]

Again, starting from a better situation.

Oh. That is it.

So let me ask you something. If after this season we finish 5-3 in the ACC. Which would mean the following:

2011: 3-5
2012: 5-3
2013: 5-3
2014: 5-3

What does that tell you about Al and Co?

If we go 3 -1 and play well against fsu, and win a bowl I'll feel good going into next season.

That isn't why I asked.

If Al goes 5-3 for the THIRD STRAIGHT SEASON (0-4 to FSU), what does that tell you about Al and Co?

You can't deny the big picture. It tells me we're not where we want to be. But I don't think that's als ceiling.

Holy ****s in my mouth. He's 1-22 against teams with 8 or more wins. Never beat a team with less than 5 losses at miami. How ******* high could his ceiling possibly be? Is there another football league where he consistently beats good teams that I don't know about? How do you people keep defending him? Even the worst coaches in all of CFB get lucky and beat a better team from time to time, but not Al. How high is his ceiling exactly? Because at this point he's proved that he literally, statistically, convincingly can't beat an average team(8-5 or better).

 

[nycane]

two different things here. do we have the talent to beat fsu regularly, no. We do have the talent to beat all the other teams we have lost to the last couple years

 

[Canes21]

Oh. That is it.

So let me ask you something. If after this season we finish 5-3 in the ACC. Which would mean the following:

2011: 3-5
2012: 5-3
2013: 5-3
2014: 5-3

What does that tell you about Al and Co?

If we go 3 -1 and play well against fsu, and win a bowl I'll feel good going into next season.

That isn't why I asked.

If Al goes 5-3 for the THIRD STRAIGHT SEASON (0-4 to FSU), what does that tell you about Al and Co?

You can't deny the big picture. It tells me we're not where we want to be. But I don't think that's als ceiling.

Holy ****s in my mouth. He's 1-22 against teams with 8 or more wins. Never beat a team with less than 5 losses at miami. How ****ing high could his ceiling possibly be? Is there another football league where he consistently beats good teams that I don't know about? How do you people keep defending him? Even the worst coaches in all of CFB get lucky and beat a better team from time to time, but not Al. How high is his ceiling exactly? Because at this point he's proved that he literally, statistically, convincingly can't beat an average team(8-5 or better).

He'll gain 2 wins against teams with 8 or more wins this year unless Arkansas State and Duke completely collapse. Though, Arkansas State is not anything to brag about when you are Miami.

All I am going to say is I was on here saying I didn't like Golden and was hoping he'd be gone based off the results in the first half of the season. After watching the VT game 3 times over now, it brought be back just a tiny bit. The defense played 10x more aggressive and we were matching personnel more than ever before and even loading up the box when needed. If the team keeps that up and we roll through the rest of the schedule besides FSU, then I don't know where I will stand. If, and it is a big IF, we win out including the FSU game, then I will probably be a Golden supporter again.

I know it's cool to hate on Golden here and I am not saying he hasn't earned a good amount of the criticism. I also know that our fan base is impatient as are most this day in age and I also know that the quick turnarounds like Auburn are not the norm or else they wouldn't be big stories when they happened. I'm not a Moper or a Slurper. I just take what I see and digest it. What I saw before the Cincinnati game was enough to make me sick. What I have seen since the Cinci game makes me think just maybe these coaches can grow into the job. Only time will tell.