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Iowa plans on opening athletic practices - including football - June 1

423Hurricane said:
Not surprised we got a Cane in Iowa. I was hoping we did to give us the great insight and perspective you shared.

Two things stuck out to me.
1. Setting a target and seeing if it can be hit. Gives all concerned something to look forward to and strive to achieve. Can the target be hit? Time will tell. Surely they'll make adjustments if need be.
2. Allowing athletes on campus without the rest of the student body. This has been an issue with university presidents and AD's about letting athletes on campus without the entire student body returning as well. I understand the concept but if there are less people on campus, there will be less people to spread the virus and less to contract it. Testing would be critical to allowing anyone back on campus by June1.
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Rellyrell said:
My boy is from Iowa; and almost lost his 25 yr old niece & her 6 month daughter to COVID. They are home and still being monitored. She passed it her mom & sister who were hospitalized. U r spot on, the folks in Iowa was not and seems like they r not taking it seriously.

In 1918, The US opened the city of Philadelphia to welcome home troops from WWI to boost morale, although there was a quarantine order due to the Influenza. 200k lines the streets to give their heroes a warm reception, despite the risk. 3 days later, every Philadelphia hospital was lined w the sick, and 4,500 died. The Country put patriotism over health. Right now, we’re putting economy and self gratification over health.

People can try to force things back to normal, and they can assume this is propaganda, but being that my best friend just lost his dad to COVID (Ghana) my mom just lost her friend to COVID (Riverside, CA), my homeboy almost losing his nieces (Iowa), I’m hear to tell you the chit is not fake. But hard headed mofos won’t learn. As long as they have a treatment plan or vaccination in place, let’s do it, but mofos trying to force chit back to normal??? The Virus will win.
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Glad to hear your friend's relatives made it through. My nephew tested postive though his symptoms were mild. Fortunately, he didn't give to any family members as my sister makes everyone take precautions even at home.
 
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UMFarArcher said:
Just from what I've seen - none of our players are 70-85 years old, have diabetes with infections, are also very obese, with cardio-pulmonary blockage and weakend lungs.

So they'd not even know they had COVID-19. Besides, get some ACQ, Zinc, and Zpac - and even if someone came down with the sniffles - they'd be cleared up from that crap in 72 hours.

This is one, big fraud. 0.5% fatal - in other words - those old, sick folks already at death's door.
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Stop putting out false information. Quite frankly you are showing your ***. My sister's co worker who is young and pregant nearly died with Covid-19.

There are 3 million documented cases world wide and over 1 million in the US. We were less than 100 cases 10 weeks ago. As of today there are 1,125,614 and 65,253 deaths. That's 5.78%. A far cry from your ridiculous cla of 0.5%.

WAKE THE F**K UP!!!!
 
Moonman said:
You're basing your argument on infection rate?

Infection rate is a useless metric.

What matters is the number of critical cases.

How many critical cases does Iowa have?

In 1968, one in every 2,000 people in the US DIED from the HK H3N2 flu. There was no vaccine. There was no lockdown.

You're still in panic mode after two months of data has proven that the mortality rate of the wuhanbatflu is 1/1000th of what the models projected?

I really hope you don't vote.
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FALSE. Simple math. Deaths / Infected is 5.7%. Look it up.

Secondly, it's not JUST a matter of whether players will get sick from the virus. It's a matter that they can spread the virus to everone else they come in contact with. Spreading the virus may kill someone you or I know and love. So, just stop with the rhetoric.

I lived in Iowa nearly half my life and my parents and relatives have been there their whole life. With all due respect, you don't know ****!!! I talk to family daily. Some of them work in these plants you see on the news. They haven't even peaked and the governor has asked the federal government to come in and help with areas that have been overwhelmed.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
Stop putting out false information. Quite frankly you are showing your ***. My sister's co worker who is young and pregant nearly died with Covid-19.

There are 3 million documented cases world wide and over 1 million in the US. We were less than 100 cases 10 weeks ago. As of today there are 1,125,614 and 65,253 deaths. That's 5.78%. A far cry from your ridiculous cla of 0.5%.

WAKE THE F**K UP!!!!
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Number1CanesFan said:
FALSE. Simple math. Deaths / Infected is 5.7%. Look it up.

Secondly, it's not JUST a matter of whether players will get sick from the virus. It's a matter that they can spread the virus to everone else they come in contact with. Spreading the virus may kill someone you or I know and love. So, just stop with the rhetoric.

I lived in Iowa nearly half my life and my parents and relatives have been there their whole life. With all due respect, you don't know ****!!! I talk to family daily. Some of them work in these plants you see on the news. They haven't even peaked and the governor has asked the federal government to come in and help with areas that have been overwhelmed.
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And you're talking about false info....
 
Number1CanesFan said:
FALSE. Simple math. Deaths / Infected is 5.7%. Look it up.

Secondly, it's not JUST a matter of whether players will get sick from the virus. It's a matter that they can spread the virus to everone else they come in contact with. Spreading the virus may kill someone you or I know and love. So, just stop with the rhetoric.

I lived in Iowa nearly half my life and my parents and relatives have been there their whole life. With all due respect, you don't know ****!!! I talk to family daily. Some of them work in these plants you see on the news. They haven't even peaked and the governor has asked the federal government to come in and help with areas that have been overwhelmed.
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The over 1m you cite are tested and confirmed cases which is accurate. However, there are many reports and studies that show as many as 15x more people have had it and had no symptoms or very mild symptoms that didn't require medical attention. These numbers have been debated constantly and extensively so on the Covid-19 thread.
 
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423Hurricane said:
The over 1m you cite are tested and confirmed cases which is accurate. However, there are many reports and studies that show as many as 15x more people have had it and had no symptoms or very mild symptoms that didn't require medical attention. These numbers have been debated constantly and extensively so on the Covid-19 thread.
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Yes. There are many unreported cases of infection. We don't know how many. There are also unreported cases of deaths.

The thing is that after 3 months we still don't have enough testing or the supples to do the tests. Nor do we have enough PPE. The whole idea was to get all these things in place while we were staying at home. It doesn't seem like we've done a good job of it. We have to be able to test, trace, and isolate. It seems that has been abandoned.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
Yes. There are many unreported cases of infection. We don't know how many. There are also unreported cases of deaths.

The thing is that after 3 months we still don't have enough testing or the supples to do the tests. Nor do we have enough PPE. The whole idea was to get all these things in place while we were staying at home. It doesn't seem like we've done a good job of it. We have to be able to test, trace, and isolate. It seems that has been abandoned.
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And reports of deaths being connected to the virus even though they may not be.

We started with basically no testing and PPE supply that was not sufficient for a pandemic. What the powers that be have accomplished in a relatively short period of time has truly been remarkable. We don't hear as much about testing or PPE shortages because the supply has become ample - especially concerning PPE. Testing is still evolving and will hopefully continue to ramp up.
 
There's been 65,253 deaths to date from the novel Covid-19 and the flu caused 34,200 deaths in the 2018-2019 season. We probably would have had many more deaths from the flu if it wasn't for the flu vaccines and the pneumonia vaccines which I get both. We can't get a Covid-19 vaccine fast enough. But the way I see the stay at home thing is that if we don't go back to living a close to normal life soon there's going to be many more casualties and not just from Covid. The economy is taking an unprecedented hit which to some is catastrophic, and we're only approx. a month into staying at home. What would another month or two of this create? Mental illness/depression will increase resulting in more suicides, crimes will increase (already has), murders, etc. My 21 y.o. son already has had two losing it episodes and I'm very worried. Yea we got Covid but this locked up at home torture can't be taken too lightly.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
IMO, very foolish. I'm from Iowa and I have family members there. Just turn to any channel and see all the outbreaks in all the plants there. I know from family members that work there. Iowa has over 7,000 cases and I can tell you they're barely testing the population. The state has 3 million people. Florida has nearly 22 million. So, that's like Iowa having over 50,000 cases and nearly a 50% higher rate than Florida. Their rate of infection is moving to the top 5 in the nation. At 50,000 cases factoring Iowa's population to Florida's population of 22 million, Iowa would equal California's(49,840) who has a population of 40 million. I believe Iowa hasn't even hit its peak.

My sister said very few people took it serious. Very few were wearing masks just 2 weeks ago thinking it wasn't going to hit them as bad since they were fine while the Coasts were suffering. She wore a mask very early on as she has immune deficiencies. She's cussed out many a people for getting too close to her not social distancing.

With that said, I believe a lot of people are in this false sense that the outbreak is over because of some arbitrary date on the calendar. We still have very little testing and NO state has passed the President's guideline of 14 days of consecutive decreases. I fear things are going to get worse as we see people returning to normal activities herding together unprotected.
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Your sister sounds like a real treat.
 
AlixCane said:
FACT: In 1968, when it was all said and done, 100,000 Americans died from H3N2 in total. A tragic number. As you said, with no vaccine, no lockdowns.

FACTS: So far, in just over a couple of months, 65,000 people have ALREADY DIED in the U.S. from Covid-19. So far. And many believe the real number is at least 10k higher. About another 2,000 +/- will die... TODAY. And that's WITH massive lockdowns, over 50 years of medical advancements, a flattening curve, virus studies, the world wide web, the proliferation of computers, the easy dissemination of information and 21st century lab work and communications.

With all the advancements illustrated above, how many people in America are STILL going to die from this by the end of the year? Ii is estimated that somewhere between 100k-400k (its wide because its hard to predict the fall wave - and there is a lot of guesswork still), which will be "low" because of the lockdowns, masks, mass production of retail and commercial disinfectant, and again, the LOCKDOWN.

How many WOULD die if we went apples to apples with the 1968 H3N2? With 1968 technology, and NO LOCKDOWNS, etc? In the millions. IN. THE. MILLIONS.

Comparing this to H3N2 is reckless and idiotic. Covid-19 is exponentially more fatal.

But thanks for the voting note.
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you seriously believe the death numbers? Hospitals get paid more if they code patients with COVID.. they are not even testing half those that die.. just coding as COVID. $$$$$$$$$
 
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