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Wss5xmiami said:
The school is already putting money into football why not the band ? I counted the band and we had roughly 80 people playing musical instruments .I know most people don’t give a **** about the band but it’s a slap in the face when the away teams bring a 300 person band and blow them out of the water .
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I have said this for years. UM has one of the best music schools anywhere and there needs to be an effort to enlarge/improve the marching band. Time to get on with it by raising money, providing scholarships etc.
 
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Pentagon Cane said:
Ask Utah if Florida's band was a problem Saturday night. It was. Even Whittingham admitted it was the loudest stadium he has ever played in and that includes Washington. Florida's band does not even step on the field pre-game, half-time or post-game, but they are annoying throughout the game especially at home. The Aggie band is going to be loud and annoying AF on the 17th. Same when we play at Clemson. It is part of the college experience whether we like it or not and home crowds react to their bands.
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No doubt. I forget what game I was watching Sat but the band cranked it up in between EVERY f^*king play. It was annoying as **** just watching on TV.
 
Okay longer short version:

1. Miami is smaller than most universities with 300 member bands.

2. UM's music school has nothing to do with the marching band, and most music majors have no interest in marching or football for that matter.

3. The band was/is funded through an athletic line item. No idea if it's going to get better with our new cash flow, but with the band being under athletics, it was the last thing on anyone's mind, budget-wise.

4. UM is not a music education degree-driven music program. A lot of huge state bands have literally hundreds of music Ed majors for whom marching band will literally be part of their career, so more incentive to march and stay. That's not the case at Miami.

5. The BOTH has had a major identity crisis for as long as I can remember. It's not big enough or dark enough to be FAMU, it's not big enough or square enough to be FSU or Ohio State. They've gone through directors, all great people, but each with a different vision for what the BOTH should be.

6. When I was at UM, even with scholarships, and even with allowing MDCC and FIU kids to march (before FIU had a football team), the band still struggled to break 150 members. There just aren't enough interested bodies. The same reasons UM doesn't sell out every home game are the reasons the BOTH is perpetually tiny.

More later after drinks.
 
My daughter saw the band and color guard and says it was worse than the top half dozen bands in the state competition. It's kind of sad, but she loved the Sunsations.
 
Mklein13 said:
I just googled how many ***** I should give
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The idiot spinning the music at Hard Rock at the Bethune Cookman game didn’t know when to stop, and as a result played over the actual snap a few times. I’d be very happy getting rid of him and getting back a good band.
 
Nopain said:
The idiot spinning the music at Hard Rock at the Bethune Cookman game didn’t know when to stop, and as a result played over the actual snap a few times. I’d be very happy getting rid of him and getting back a good band.
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Thank you and you're probably part of the 5% of the fanbase who has been to a game outside of the city of Miami. Our gameday atmosphere is anemic at best if we are truly being honest with ourselves.

Hiring proven commodities like Mario and Radakovich are a fantastic step in the right direction, and why the powers that be want to have a serious football program, but some bar mitzvah DJ bumping Trick Daddy pales in comparison to the pageantry that you'll see at schools like Bama, UGA, Penn State, etc.
 
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JZCane0825 said:
Thank you and you're probably part of the 5% of the fanbase who has been to a game outside of the city of Miami. Our gameday atmosphere is anemic at best if we are truly being honest with ourselves.

Hiring proven commodities like Mario and Radakovich are a fantastic step in the right direction, and why the powers that be want to have a serious football program, but some bar mitzvah DJ bumping Trick Daddy pales in comparison to the pageantry that you'll see at schools like Bama, UGA, Penn State, etc.
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We never had a good band and never will. It’s volunteer only and people don’t give a ****. We also aren’t a traditional college environment. a lot of our fans aren’t alums so the campus traditions don’t really transfer. We shiuld treat it like a pro crowd Bc the team is treated like a pro team. It’s Miami not a college town. We have a ton of transplants and people w no connection to the school. Far more people are connected to the city. Make the environment more Miami. The heat do it w pepas. Go all in on the culture. We’ll never be the white washed college environment you see on tv. That isn’t us. You fit the environment to your crowd not try to fit the crowd to your vision. we arent the polo shirt wearing school. make It a party. That’s how you get more people to attend. They want to habe fun. We already rank some of the worst locally for college basketball during the tournament. It just isn’t a big college sport market. The canes took hold bc they won and did it miami style.
 
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ghost2 said:
2. UM's music school has nothing to do with the marching band, and most music majors have no interest in marching or football for that matter
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You're telling me that the band isn't compromised of Frost students? 🤯 I don't know a single non-Frost person that was in the band or wanted to be in the band. I'm shook right now.
 
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hoops156 said:
We never had a good band and never will. It’s volunteer only and people don’t give a ****. We also aren’t a traditional college environment. a lot of our fans aren’t alums so the campus traditions don’t really transfer. We shiuld treat it like a pro crowd Bc the team is treated like a pro team. It’s Miami not a college town. We have a ton of transplants and people w no connection to the school. Far more people are connected to the city. Make the environment more Miami. The heat do it w pepas. Go all in on the culture. We’ll never be the white washed college environment you see on tv. That isn’t us. You fit the environment to your crowd not try to fit the crowd to your vision. we arent the polo shirt wearing school. make It a party. That’s how you get more people to attend. They want to habe fun. We already rank some of the worst locally for college basketball during the tournament. It just isn’t a big college sport market. The canes took hold bc they won and did it miami style.
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Actually you're wrong. in the 80's the band was twice as big as it is now, but the school gave partial scholarships to kids who marched. The money made it worthwhile, and when the school stopped doing it, the kids stopped marching. It's a huge investment in time and effort, and the school should definitely do something for the kids. If you want to invest in the gamely experience, don't cheap out. Miami has 11,000 students, and I'm sure we could get 250-300 in a band if we gave them incentive to do it.
 
Wss5xmiami said:
The school is already putting money into football why not the band ? I counted the band and we had roughly 80 people playing musical instruments .I know most people don’t give a **** about the band but it’s a slap in the face when the away teams bring a 300 person band and blow them out of the water .
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On average, how many more wins per season would you say a 300 person band would get us?
 
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