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In order for Miami to be back...

brock said:
What do we have to do?

My take

-Get a dynamic offense in Miami. This has held us back the last few years. We need to be fast , explosive,and score in bunches without any remorse for the other team. it’s clear we won’t be an elite recruiting team but richt at least stockpiled us with an elite recruiting class in 2018 especially at the skill positions. With the right oc hire we can be very explosive

-recruit at an ever higher level, Enough with the misses. Get some coaches in there to be able to close. It shouldn’t be this hard where we are striking out on literally everyone we go after this cycle.

-continue to invest in facilities, don’t just sit on the ipf and think the job is done. There is always areas of improvement, a big time locker room renovation is needed considering other instate schools are getting upgrades soon. This is very appealing to recruits and they want the best of the best. Push the envelope, the work isn’t anywhere near done...

-make Miami an attractive school to go to. Turnover chain and 10-0 #2 ranking before the final week of the season was no doubt appealing. We have to continue to push the envelope and be successful on the field. Get rid of these flat games, bad blowout losses in prime time games and bowl game collapses.

- when I was Growing up back in the early 2000s teams used to fear Miami, I dont Get that sense anymore, we need that type of edge back in the program

These are just a few suggestions but what else?
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I think we need to forget about being "back" but rather be competitive. "Back" is a joke for other fan bases and, likely, coaching staffs. It might be semantics, but it's important. We will never be back to the 1980's and 1990's but we can be relevant.
 
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Oh and another thing I’m going to add to my dialogue. Nobody on the coaching staff is getting their first on-field coaching job here. Everybody needs a resume...I don’t care if you were an analyst with the Tide or the Pats if there is no coaching on your resume then don’t show up to our interview. This isn’t Mississippi State, this is Miami and we need to treat this place like the big league P5 job it is.
 
I’ve said it on this board before and I’ll say it again. You guys don’t understand how pivitol it is to have our own stadium closer to campus. Kids dreamed of playing in the OB, not Hard Rock. I’m not saying hard rock isn’t a great stadium or environment, but having a stadium closer to campus that these players can call theirs really plays a roll. When we’re selling a stadium 25 mins away from campus vs a school like Florida selling the swamp on campus... it’s really no contest.
 
dchumbley said:
I’ve said it on this board before and I’ll say it again. You guys don’t understand how pivitol it is to have our own stadium closer to campus. Kids dreamed of playing in the OB, not Hard Rock. I’m not saying hard rock isn’t a great stadium or environment, but having a stadium closer to campus that these players can call theirs really plays a roll. When we’re selling a stadium 25 mins away from campus vs a school like Florida selling the swamp on campus... it’s really no contest.
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This is one of the most overrated things people say. UF, UGA, Bama need an on-field stadium but most of our fanbase lives in West Miami anyways. I used to be an hour 30 away from the OB and now I’m 45 away from the rock. Don’t listen to dudes that aren’t from this area when they tell you that...we’re doing the students a favor by playing out here. We’re saving them gas.

Then you reverse sell and say “do you really in that old, ancient rust bucket or do you want to play where they hold the National championship, FIFA games, NFL games, numerous concerts, and the orange bowl?” “This isn’t the middle of nowhere son, this is where the big leaguers play”.
 
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dchumbley said:
I’ve said it on this board before and I’ll say it again. You guys don’t understand how pivitol it is to have our own stadium closer to campus. Kids dreamed of playing in the OB, not Hard Rock. I’m not saying hard rock isn’t a great stadium or environment, but having a stadium closer to campus that these players can call theirs really plays a roll. When we’re selling a stadium 25 mins away from campus vs a school like Florida selling the swamp on campus... it’s really no contest.
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Completely agree. Having home field advantage is tough when you ask these kids to travel that far to watch a game. It's an embarrassment there's not a stadium on campus.
 
Until the U admin goes all in with the football program it's not going to happen. I'm pulling for Manny, but does anyone really think that Bama would spend less that 12 hours to find a coach if Saban bailed tonight? I get the feeling that as long as the U makes a bowl game most years and doesn't embarrass the school with some type of scandal, then the bot will be just fine with that. If they wanna play with the big boys then they better start acting like it and spending like it.
 
brock said:
What do we have to do?

My take

-Get a dynamic offense in Miami. This has held us back the last few years. We need to be fast , explosive,and score in bunches without any remorse for the other team. it’s clear we won’t be an elite recruiting team but richt at least stockpiled us with an elite recruiting class in 2018 especially at the skill positions. With the right oc hire we can be very explosive

-recruit at an ever higher level, Enough with the misses. Get some coaches in there to be able to close. It shouldn’t be this hard where we are striking out on literally everyone we go after this cycle.

-continue to invest in facilities, don’t just sit on the ipf and think the job is done. There is always areas of improvement, a big time locker room renovation is needed considering other instate schools are getting upgrades soon. This is very appealing to recruits and they want the best of the best. Push the envelope, the work isn’t anywhere near done...

-make Miami an attractive school to go to. Turnover chain and 10-0 #2 ranking before the final week of the season was no doubt appealing. We have to continue to push the envelope and be successful on the field. Get rid of these flat games, bad blowout losses in prime time games and bowl game collapses.

- when I was Growing up back in the early 2000s teams used to fear Miami, I dont Get that sense anymore, we need that type of edge back in the program

These are just a few suggestions but what else?
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I also think we need to dominate at the oline and dline, Miami will always have very good skilled players but our great Miami teams have always dominated at the line of scrimmage
 
Zbrod95 said:
This is one of the most overrated things people say. UF, UGA, Bama need an on-field stadium but most of our fanbase lives in West Miami anyways. I used to be an hour 30 away from the OB and now I’m 45 away from the rock. Don’t listen to dudes that aren’t from this area when they tell you that...we’re doing the students a favor by playing out here. We’re saving them gas.

Then you reverse sell and say “do you really in that old, ancient rust bucket or do you want to play where they hold the National championship, FIFA games, NFL games, numerous concerts, and the orange bowl?” “This isn’t the middle of nowhere son, this is where the big leaguers play”.
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You think I or legit anyone in the world cares about how close the stadium is to you? Saying it’s closer for the students, you actually kidding me ? Your response is wrong on so many levels, I’m not even gonna get into it. Players dgaf about soccer games or any of that noise. The OB was the f*cking OB and the reasons of wanting to play there and not a place like Hard Rock are much deeper than I think you understand.
 
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dchumbley said:
You think I or legit anyone in the world cares about how close the stadium is to you? Saying it’s closer for the students, you actually kidding me ? Your response is wrong on so many levels, I’m not even gonna get into it. Players dgaf about soccer games or any of that noise. The OB was the f*cking OB and the reasons of wanting to play there and not a place like Hard Rock are much deeper than I think you understand.
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Maybe you don’t understand so I’m going to say it nice, big, and bold.

MAJORITY. OF. YOUR. FANBASE/STUDENTS. LIVE. ON. THE. WEST. SIDE. OF. BROWARD. AND. DADE. COUNTIES.

So in essence what you’re telling me is that you want it closer to you and not your fanbase and FYI the OB at one point host national championships, concerts, and Super Bowls.
 
brock said:
most dominant era of Miami football Ive personally got to witness so I used It as an example 2000-2003

He’s not the answer, maybe if he was 50 or so but he’s far too old.
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Saban and Belichick says you are Dunning-Kruger exhibit A
 
Zbrod95 said:
Maybe you don’t understand so I’m going to say it nice, big, and bold.

MAJORITY. OF. YOUR. FANBASE/STUDENTS. LIVE. ON. THE. WEST. SIDE. OF. BROWARD. AND. DADE. COUNTIES.

So in essence what you’re telling me is that you want it closer to you and not your fanbase and FYI the OB at one point host national championships, concerts, and Super Bowls.
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Simply not true that majority of the students / fans live there. Keep writing in bold though so you can continue trying to convince yourself of that. And sorry you gotta live out west, that’s tough. One last thing, if you legit knew anything about student life at UM, you would know that most, if not all, students are on campus during game day and take buses to the games. BuT wEre SaViNG ThEm MoNey oN gAs. Lol you got it guy.
 
dchumbley said:
Simply not true that majority of the students / fans live there. Keep writing in bold though so you can continue trying to convince yourself of that. And sorry you gotta live out west, that’s tough. One last thing, if you legit knew anything about student life at UM, you would know that most, if not all, students are on campus during game day and take buses to the games. BuT wEre SaViNG ThEm MoNey oN gAs. Lol you got it guy.
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Bro I’m 23. I have friends that go to the university, I go there myself a bunch just hang in the gables and I’ve partied there...95% of the people I know live west or way south and they carpool to games. The only kids taking buses going to the games aren’t originally from here and live in the dorms. Stop trying to make it seem that you’re right because I know you’re wrong. I can tell you’re not even from here if you don’t know most of the population either lives on the beach or west down here..especially in Miami. Don’t try to tell me about an area I live in.

Lol at your old *** trying to “educate” me. This aint the 80’s/90’s.
 
Zbrod95 said:
Bro I’m 23. I have friends that go to the university, I go there myself a bunch just hang in the gables and I’ve partied there...95% of the people I know live west or way south and they carpool to games. The only kids taking buses going to the games aren’t originally from here and live in the dorms. Stop trying to make it seem that you’re right because I know you’re wrong. I can tell you’re not even from here if you don’t know most of the population either lives on the beach or west down here..especially in Miami. Don’t try to tell me about an area I live in.

Lol at your old *** trying to “educate” me. This aint the 80’s/90’s.
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You right. I go here and I only took the bus to my first hame and I go to every game
 
Zbrod95 said:
Bro I’m 23. I have friends that go to the university, I go there myself a bunch just hang in the gables and I’ve partied there...95% of the people I know live west or way south and they carpool to games. The only kids taking buses going to the games aren’t originally from here and live in the dorms. Stop trying to make it seem that you’re right because I know you’re wrong. I can tell you’re not even from here if you don’t know most of the population either lives on the beach or west down here..especially in Miami. Don’t try to tell me about an area I live in.

Lol at your old *** trying to “educate” me. This aint the 80’s/90’s.
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And I’m younger than you😂😂 fckin idiot
 
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dchumbley said:
I’ve said it on this board before and I’ll say it again. You guys don’t understand how pivitol it is to have our own stadium closer to campus. Kids dreamed of playing in the OB, not Hard Rock. I’m not saying hard rock isn’t a great stadium or environment, but having a stadium closer to campus that these players can call theirs really plays a roll. When we’re selling a stadium 25 mins away from campus vs a school like Florida selling the swamp on campus... it’s really no contest.
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The death of the OB ripped the spiritual heart out of the program - and it will never again be like it was, but I think if Miami is winning, homeboys will come and play wherever and fans will too. Even the grand OB was a relative ghost town when the Tulsas of the world rolled into town in the 80s on a balmy Saturday night. And there have been even more important stadiums in the pantheon of world coliseums of sport that were unthinkably reduced to rubbish (Yankee Stadium, Wembley, Boston Garden, ****nal Stadium, Comiskey Park, The Colosseum in Rome, etc) but the show kept on. It sucks, it will be a scar that never heals for anyone that lived it, many of us will chase it until we grow old and die, but I am not sure a closer stadium to campus will ever recapture the ghosts of the OB or anything else if the product is marginal. Joe Robbie has turned into a good venue and big night games have rocked there in the past. Like the nutrition thread, Miami needs to worry about finding a QB that can hit the broad side of a barn, and recruit OL over 240lbs before they start worrying about this other chit. But I understand your perspective and I am not dismissing your point of view, it certainly has merit - I just think we have 99 problems and this is 47 or so.
 
TheEye said:
But it is. It is this hard. This isn't all on the coaches when a coach can recruit Todd Gurley, Sony Michel, Aaron Murray, Matt Stafford, but then can't keep Patrick Surtain Jr. or Tyson Cambell in town, I'd say there's a problem with the overall recruiting at the insitution.
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I went to school with PS2 and he was gonna come here up until LSU and Bama started going after him hard. In that summer UM laid back a bit. These guys play us and use UM to get SEC offers than take bags. We gotta start dropping bags again or we’ll become Nebraska
 
Nycane954 said:
I went to school with PS2 and he was gonna come here up until LSU and Bama started going after him hard. In that summer UM laid back a bit. These guys play us and use UM to get SEC offers than take bags. We gotta start dropping bags again or we’ll become Nebraska
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It’s not gonna take bags. We just need to identify Asante samuels/Trajan Bandys and prioritize them. Start putting more emphasis on evals.
 
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