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I'm confused about Gus Malzahn

canes_aaron said:
he needs the right type of QB to run the system. Castellanos is a good fit. at UCF i dont believe he had any competent QB play

with that said, I think Bama just also isnt that great
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He had Castellanos, but started Plumlee
 
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AlexCane said:
Bama looked like our teams from 2003-20?? that assumed that simply because we had a U on the side of our helmet, we'd win.
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I think their game against FSU, reminded me of our Peach Bowl beat down from LSU. That started our trip to mediocrity
 
I agree make Castellanos throw-
Control the LOS-
Gap integrity and control the rush lanes -
I like our guys better.
 
citizenkane said:
We all know that we're going to beat Bethune so why not look ahead?

I admit that I didn't know to much about Malzahn because I rarely follow Auburn football. As far as I can tell Malzahn's offense looked really really good circa 2009-2012 era because off course having Cam Newton helped a lot and I guess his offense was new and radical at the time. He also took the Tigers to the last BCS championship and lost to FSU late in 4th quarter.

But ever since then the Tiger's fell apart mostly on offense. Besides personnel which obviously changes consistently, SEC defenses seem to have figured out how to stop his "unstoppable" offense. Malzahn also fell apart at UCF going 4-8 in the Big 12. This guy consistently fails on the big stage for a reason.

So this leads my to my question, WTF was Alabama doing? Alabama has played Auburn every year since the beginning of time and yet they looked like they ZERO film on this guy.

The defense refused to set edges, keep gap containment and consistently over-pursue the ball carriers. IMO, Alabama clearly does NOT suffer from a lack of talent so either their defensive coaches are incompetent or their players haven't fully bought in or some combination of both.

Trying to stop his offense will be a PITA but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Castellanos is good but he's not Cam Newton good. Malzahn's offense was revolutionary in 2010 but today's date is 2025. FSU isn't going to face another power conference opponent until Virginia followed by our game. I suspect they will pad stats on 2 straight lower tier teams but i'm not buying into hype that Malzahn has somehow "reinvented" himself.

There is a reason his offense hasn't had any real success against good competition since 2014 and those reasons are likely to surface again soon.
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Saban isnt at Alabama..major reason for what hapoened.
 
FSU talent is still ****. I have no idea how Bama imploded like they did. But we really struggle with running QBs. Carr even gashed us. We couldn't handle GT last year with a backup QB.

I know we're lightyears better now, and can load the box given the talent at DB. And I was at the BC game where we dominated that team and won easily even when Castellanos had success running against us. But I need to see us take care of business to believe it. In Hetherman I trust.
 
skillydoo said:
I like our hogs up front.
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grover said:
FSU talent is still ****. I have no idea how Bama imploded like they did. But we really struggle with running QBs. Carr even gashed us. We couldn't handle GT last year with a backup QB.

I know we're lightyears better now, and can load the box given the talent at DB. And I was at the BC game where we dominated that team and won easily even when Castellanos had success running against us. But I need to see us take care of business to believe it. In Hetherman I trust.
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If FSU ultimately turns out to be a fraud then Deboaring is toast!
 
That game was about Bama lack of culture. Playing Mulzahn is similar to playing Paul Johnson triple option. It's assignments and discipline, eye discipline. If you are a poorly coached team or if you have never played against it it can gash you. Yall remember 08, GT ran for 472 yards against us. They got smoked every time after that basically. And if you get ahead and the run becomes less of a factor, its even more ineffective. I am not gonna take anything away from FSU but I saw Bama look totally helpless v Vandy, I have to see how each team plays other even decent teams to form a proper opinion on each.
 
bacane said:
The Alabama showing is mind blowing in so many respects. The fact that FSU QB ****ed all over/mocked them & didn’t **** them off is crazy. Lack of passion & effort was so not like Bama, Also didn’t help that QB is dog ****,
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Their [Bama] star player paints his nails and carries a stuffed animal.

Don't care if they win AFC South, they're lost as a program right now.

Close thread.
 
citizenkane said:
After looking at some old films I came to the same conclusion that you did about how Gus is running the same exact thing as he did in the past.

So this begs the million dollar question: Did the Alabama defensive coaches adequately prepare the defense mentally to stop Gus offense and the players just failed to execute that plan properly OR did the players execute exactly what Alabama's coaches taught them but it was just **** poor strategy?

I'm not a football expert but if i had to devise a strategy it would be to maintain gap and assignment discipline on 1st and 2nd downs to stop the run/misdirection plays. Put them in 3rd and long and then instead of just trying to rush the passer up the gut i would actually try and keep him in a passing pocket and make Castellanos beat me by reading coverages and throwing the ball down the field. FSU only completed 9 passes for 154, everything else was on the ground.

Am i correct in saying that this is like the old Georgia tech offenses but with more of a spread component?
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The talent level in Alabama looks way down. Especially after seeing LSU, I wonder if Alabama even wins 9 games this season. Someone mentioned that Alabama is 5 and 5 over the last ten games. Alabama reminds me of UM, after Corker took over for Butch, you could see the talent leveling off every year.
 
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