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If your kid was a top recruit

2, then 3 for me. Both ways are setting him up for a future. With 2, you get financial security as long as you're not a dumbass. With 3, you get prepping for a possible future in football, either as a player or coach or front office guy through connections.
 
Interesting so many people said #2. The thought behind my original post was the talk of DJ Jacobs potentially considering Tennessee for a huge number. Everyone keeps saying, “Why go to that program and go nowhere” but then also say they’d take the bag. Every fan base now claims they only lose guys because of a huge bag. Should anyone be surprised if that is the reason?

I’d be curious, if that biggest NIL bag was a team like Wisconsin or Colorado, would you feel the same way?

For the record, I understand it’s way more nuanced and many of the NIL numbers are close. If the numbers are close, you go to the next reason on your list and determine if it’s worth the value of any NIL difference.
 
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CreativeCane said:
Interesting so many people said #2. The thought behind my original post was the talk of DJ Jacobs potentially considering Tennessee for a huge number. Everyone keeps saying, “Why go to that program and go nowhere” but then also say they’d take the bag. Every fan base now claims they only lose guys because of a huge bag. Should anyone be surprised if that is the reason?

I’d be curious, if that biggest NIL bag was a team like Wisconsin or Colorado, would you feel the same way?

For the record, I understand it’s way more nuanced and many of the NIL numbers are close. If the numbers are close, you go to the next reason on your list and determine if it’s worth the value of any NIL difference.
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I think with #2 it is the most important factor, but not the only. I would rather have slightly less money and be in an NFL pedigree hotbed like Miami for training. With no context though, money can make the most happen for your own development. I’d like the NFL development route as well but coaches are moving pieces and I think a well-paying program will have reasonably competent positional staff. Lots of factors for every decision but a determined kid with money can make it happen. If they are paying you money, you better be playing.
 
I am Team 3.

1. Getting prepped for the NFL means you're getting the best coaching. There's no excuses, it's right there, take advantage.

2. If you got it as a sophomore, you can take the NIL bag later on too if the situation is right.

3. Long-term, you're getting the best deal. The upfront money prob won't hit, but later on, you're set for life.
 
If I truly love football and believe in myself to make it then # 3. But real life circumstances would make # 2 tough to pass on.
 
CreativeCane said:
Thought exercise. Your kid is a top recruit. These are his final six. Where are you advising him to go and why? And no changing the rules or adding options here, no “take this one now and then transfer” (I’m onto you, CIS). Just curious what everyone would prioritize for their son.

Team 1 - His favorite childhood team
Team 2 - Biggest NIL by a large margin
Team 3 - Staff with best NFL prep
Team 4 - Best relationship with staff
Team 5 - Yearly title contender
Team 6 - Immediate starting job
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Which of these is West Point, Annapolis or Stanford?
 
Feel like a lot of these replies shows that yall weren't athletes lol. If the money is comparable to other programs, throw that boy in a place with great coaches and great culture that will push him for 4 years to be the best he can be.

Private trainers are great additions, but u gotta have a FOOTBALL coaching staff that will inspire you to reach your absolute best. Talkin get up early, grind all day every day, and repeat for 4 years. Thats not easy.

Finally feel comfortable saying we got a coach who inspires that kinda work ethic and desire for greatness from his team.

That kinda teaching in college is infinitely more important in the long run than money. If ur a top recruit in that type of program, and embrace the culture, youll make more money in your career than you ever would at some other college with a bigger signing bonus. Look at bain, mesi, fletcher, coop, etc. Those boys had talent, but would not be where they are today without our coaching staff.
 
CaneManeShane727 said:
I think with #2 it is the most important factor, but not the only. I would rather have slightly less money and be in an NFL pedigree hotbed like Miami for training. With no context though, money can make the most happen for your own development. I’d like the NFL development route as well but coaches are moving pieces and I think a well-paying program will have reasonably competent positional staff. Lots of factors for every decision but a determined kid with money can make it happen. If they are paying you money, you better be playing.
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Texas Tech had a guy drafted in RD1. So did Arizona State (think the had 2x). Auburn had a guy. UCF and Utah had a guy. Texas A&M had a guy or two. No one here would argue that these programs are great preparation or NFL pedigree hotbeds or anything of the sort.

the easiest way to maximize the rate of return on any investment is to get a payout sooner, and increase the amount of the initial payout as much as possible.

If we are going to argue long-term, then we’d be putting an elite education in the mix, because Stanford is probably worth $100k up front difference.
 
CaneManeShane727 said:
I think with #2 it is the most important factor, but not the only. I would rather have slightly less money and be in an NFL pedigree hotbed like Miami for training. With no context though, money can make the most happen for your own development. I’d like the NFL development route as well but coaches are moving pieces and I think a well-paying program will have reasonably competent positional staff. Lots of factors for every decision but a determined kid with money can make it happen. If they are paying you money, you better be playing.
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i don’t know why anyone here is arguing for anything but #2.

3, 4, and 5 are LITERALLY the reasons cited by every major south florida recruit who told us to **** our own faces while they went and won a championship at Bama.

Unless the Al Golden defenders want to argue he had great relationships with SoFla star recruits.
 
genxcane said:
The best answer will be more nuanced.

My advice would be to take all offers within 10% of the highest and put them in a pool for consideration.

Then choose the best fit among those. Best fit will be some combination of the other factors depending on the kid's priorities and values.

It is the best case scenario to consider the financial aspects without letting it overrule personal choices.

Yes I am a rule breaker.
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i’d also tell any kid i love to take education quality into account. i’d have a tough time sending my kid to Tennessee if Stanford or Vandy was calling (at anywhere close to the same price point).

i also care far more about their long term outcomes vs. just sports.
 
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DRC said:
i’d also tell any kid i love to take education quality into account. i’d have a tough time sending my kid to Tennessee if Stanford or Vandy was calling (at anywhere close to the same price point).

i also care far more about their long term outcomes vs. just sports.
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If Stanford was an opportunity for my kid, I'd ask them to think about it long and hard regardless of the 6 choices in this thread. It would trump everything for me.
 
Though I haven’t experienced it myself. I know 3 parents of former high level recruits. At one point I asked them each how/why they decided on the schools their sons chose.

Two 5 stars. One 4 star.

One is in the NFL now, a high level player and won a Natty and a SB.

The other two are still in college.

The two 5 stars chose number 3. It worked out great for one, the other… let’s just say who they went to get coached by is no longer there so that’s a TBD situation.

The 4 star was a mix of 1 and 4… it seems 4 was heavily influenced by 1 if that makes sense.

Money wasn’t really a factor per their parents because they were going to get that regardless. It came down to where they really wanted to be.
 
This is an effort in futility. Anyone making a decision on just one factor is a fool. A multitude of factors go into a decision.
 
Bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush. Balance in having two, three, or more variables will be optimal.

No one knows if they'll go uninjured - wherever they go. A nice nest egg acquired during college ball for a valuable player can actually set up a young man going forward's entire future.

And maybe negotiate a multi-million dollar insurance payout if they ARE injured and can never again play football.

If the top offer comes from Slippery Rock - then you gotta bring into your set of variables - at least a couple of the other options, as not one option alone can really stand on its own merit.

You can blend your needs without leaving money on the table.
 
2, 3, 5, 4, 1, then 6. Team 3/4 looks different if the HC bolts and the assistants find new gigs elsewhere.
 
How large a margin for #2? Too much short term thinking.

My son is be an elite player who signed a seven-figure NIL deal out of HS. Great, but now he’s wrapping up his sophomore season.

What position? What is his status? Starter? Key contributor? Outlook for junior season? Team outlook? Development track? Is he projected as a 1-2 round pick with a great JR season? Or would transferring help his situation?

What programs and connections does the school have for players post-college?
 
Money is always everything! And, if its my son, I'm not selling him to the highest bidder. Id rather use the bids to gauge where the market is for him.

If he's the type that has god-given ability and he just needs to get on the field, Id have no problem with him going to a smaller school where he plays Day 1. Doesn't mean he'll stay there though.

If hes a great athlete and needs direction (coaching), Im sending him to the NFL coaches. Again, it doesn't mean he spends all 5 years there either.

Even pre-NIL, we've seen cases where some school HAVE to offer a big bag because they dont offer much else. Id hate for my kid best earning potential to be as a 18 year old kid when he had potential for soo much more, if he doesn't get greedy.
 
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