If we miss ACCCG + CFP, it will come back to one decision (SMU game)

[skyman]

Against SMU it was puzzling the lack of deep shots against a poor secondary. Against VT we took our shots. The problem is JoJo can’t seem to get open on the deep shots and he is our stretch player. They threw him one against VT and he was covered up.

Kinda confused by this, they took 3 deep shots with Jojo against SMU and he had 84 yards in first quarter! He was even open on the drop turned INT, we turtled up after when we should of kept attacking! How do you empower players if you rarely use them and they make a mistake and then dont help them get back on track, the game plan should NOT have changed!

Idk how olineman are able to false start every game and barely a word is mentioned, the VT snap by center is dam near sabotage level of suspect but not a peep. For some reason guys like Lofton can drop a hundred passes and kill drives and they will still feed him to get out of funk but jojo sits bench all season and thrown in deep end and its like even tho you are doing well one **** up and its back to the trenches for you son! Its crazy how polarizing it is..

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

You talking about the Lightfoot play?

Yeah. 4th and 9. One play. Get a stop, the game is over.

I know the thread is talking to one "decision", and this wasn't really a decision. And as I said, Mario's decision was 100% wrong. But we needed to hit multiple plays, then probably a long field goal. Doable, and again 10000% we should've tried for it, but that didn't lose the game. 4th and 9, you're literally one football play away from being 10-1. And we let them convert without even having to earn it.

If you really want to make yourself insane, by the way, go back and rewatch that last drive.

2nd and 10 with about 1:40 left, we get a sack by Keionte Scott, it's now 3RD AND NINETEEN! with the clock running. We let them get 10 yards, then of course the famous 4th and 9.

But even after that, they get a holding call a few plays later, it's another 1st and 20, very long yardage situation, under a minute to go. Incomplete pass. 2nd and 20. We get a good rush on Jennings, he scrambles, 3rd and 16. They are NOT in easy FG range.

But what happens? A completely insane, 1 out of 20, circus catch on the sideline by Hudson, gain of 11. So a 49 yard field goal becomes a 38 yarder, and he drills it. Just a maddening sequence, they had to do everything right and we had to do everything wrong just to give them a FG chance to tie the game. But a 49 yarder vs a 38 yarder is a MASSIVE difference in the college game. SMU's kicker is 7-7 from inside 40 yards this year, but 6-11 from 40+. He had already missed one from 42.

I need a drink. Thanks for this thread.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

1x does not make a trend. Let me know when we have another #1 draft pick QB.

"I think we'll never see Mario allow a real air raid system"

*Points to large sign showing Miami leading the country in explosive passing plays, Top 15 in passes per game, having the #1 pick in the NFL draft as a pass-first quarterback, leading the most prolific passing attack in America and school history by miles*

"Yeah, well, how bout besides that one entire season?"

I hate it here, Volume 1,234,590

 

[RVACane]

Losing to Louisville was almost inevitable when you go down 14-0 in the first quarter and your QB throws four interceptions, including one on the final drive. I'm not going to waste energy there.

But I just can't get past Mario's decision to kneel the ball to force overtime against SMU in Dallas.

1st and 10, 0:25 seconds left, one timeout at your 25 yard line. Beck was playing well, you were moving the ball in the air, and we have a kicker that can hit from 50+ yards. It just baffles me to this day that he made the call to go to overtime instead of playing to win in regulation.

Two completions + a long kick and we're sitting at 10-1, ACCCG all but locked up and CFP playoff birth waiting for us.

That loss stings almost as bad as the Syracuse loss last year. This is a top-10 team, and we're likely going to be playing in the Pop-Tart bowl again this year...

Dude, I agree that it was a loser move to kneel - I literally blurted out “what a loser!” at the tv when he did it - but that doesn’t make that the reason we lost. We don’t know what would have happened if he actually tried to win there. Nonetheless, it was a loser coRching move and a prime example of why I voted to pack his bags and send him on his way to LSU in that hypothetical poll that most voted the opposite in.

We have a serious MarioBro pandemic here.

 

[PennsylvaniaCane]

"I think we'll never see Mario allow a real air raid system"

*Points to large sign showing Miami leading the country in explosive passing plays, Top 15 in passes per game, having the #1 pick in the NFL draft as a pass-first quarterback, leading the most prolific passing attack in America and school history by miles*

"Yeah, well, how bout besides that one entire season?"

I hate it here, Volume 1,234,590

So a perfect storm of 5 experienced WRs a very very good RB and a #1 draft pick QB who makes a living scrambling, buying time, and hitting big plays down field, and regularly audibles into said pass plays is the norm for Mario?

It has nothing to do with the amount of passes we throw. Last I looked at the stats we threw the ball about 3-4 more times per game last year vs this year. The system we run is flawed. Dawson is an air raid guy yet we never use tempo, either this year or last or in 23. Also his use of 2 TE is questionable as is the spacing on the field. Nothing like lining up Bauman in the slot on 3rd and pass. If your gonna be air raid, be air raid. Get the ball downfield. Use tempo. Get as many possessions as you can and you’ll score a ton. We’ll always have the talent advantage in the ACC yet he wants to play it conservative and close to the vest. How many 1 score games against 10+ underdogs do we need to lose for him to figure it out.

 

[TaylorWalls]

We tried to score, contrary to the belief that we take knees to run out the clock on every drive. When you drop a pass in the end zone, flip a perfectly thrown ball in the air for an interception, and throw an interception in overtime, it's pretty corny to claim that we don't try to score.

 

[edge]

Yeah. 4th and 9. One play. Get a stop, the game is over.

I know the thread is talking to one "decision", and this wasn't really a decision. And as I said, Mario's decision was 100% wrong. But we needed to hit multiple plays, then probably a long field goal. Doable, and again 10000% we should've tried for it, but that didn't lose the game. 4th and 9, you're literally one football play away from being 10-1. And we let them convert without even having to earn it.

If you really want to make yourself insane, by the way, go back and rewatch that last drive.

2nd and 10 with about 1:40 left, we get a sack by Keionte Scott, it's now 3RD AND NINETEEN! with the clock running. We let them get 10 yards, then of course the famous 4th and 9.

But even after that, they get a holding call a few plays later, it's another 1st and 20, very long yardage situation, under a minute to go. Incomplete pass. 2nd and 20. We get a good rush on Jennings, he scrambles, 3rd and 16. They are NOT in easy FG range.

But what happens? A completely insane, 1 out of 20, circus catch on the sideline by Hudson, gain of 11. So a 49 yard field goal becomes a 38 yarder, and he drills it. Just a maddening sequence, they had to do everything right and we had to do everything wrong just to give them a FG chance to tie the game. But a 49 yarder vs a 38 yarder is a MASSIVE difference in the college game. SMU's kicker is 7-7 from inside 40 yards this year, but 6-11 from 40+. He had already missed one from 42.

I need a drink. Thanks for this thread.

I agree. If we beat Pitt and don’t make playoffs, the Lightfoot play is the play that defined our season. Do you feel that penalty was warranted?

 

[MizCane]

I lowkey blame that game on the following
- Jojo drop shifted momentum A LOT
- Marty Brown & not Fletcher on the play where we needed 1 yard
- The PI no call & the unnecessary roughness on Lightfoot

The strip sack called an incomplete pass

 

[mr.h]

So a perfect storm of 5 experienced WRs a very very good RB and a #1 draft pick QB who makes a living scrambling, buying time, and hitting big plays down field, and regularly audibles into said pass plays is the norm for Mario?

It has nothing to do with the amount of passes we throw. Last I looked at the stats we threw the ball about 3-4 more times per game last year vs this year. The system we run is flawed. Dawson is an air raid guy yet we never use tempo, either this year or last or in 23. Also his use of 2 TE is questionable as is the spacing on the field. Nothing like lining up Bauman in the slot on 3rd and pass. If your gonna be air raid, be air raid. Get the ball downfield. Use tempo. Get as many possessions as you can and you’ll score a ton. We’ll always have the talent advantage in the ACC yet he wants to play it conservative and close to the vest. How many 1 score games against 10+ underdogs do we need to lose for him to figure it out.

Our receivers are perfect for up tempo play..also our rb’s have soft hands, especially Brown.

 

[nickster]

Losing to Louisville was almost inevitable when you go down 14-0 in the first quarter and your QB throws four interceptions, including one on the final drive. I'm not going to waste energy there.

But I just can't get past Mario's decision to kneel the ball to force overtime against SMU in Dallas.

1st and 10, 0:25 seconds left, one timeout at your 25 yard line. Beck was playing well, you were moving the ball in the air, and we have a kicker that can hit from 50+ yards. It just baffles me to this day that he made the call to go to overtime instead of playing to win in regulation.

Two completions + a long kick and we're sitting at 10-1, ACCCG all but locked up and CFP playoff birth waiting for us.

That loss stings almost as bad as the Syracuse loss last year. This is a top-10 team, and we're likely going to be playing in the Pop-Tart bowl again this year...

I hear what you're saying but the Louisville game in my estimation was worse. You have one of the most exciting punt returners in college with Malachi and you don't give him a chance to return a punt right before halftime. The ball was around the 45 yard line and I believe it was on the Miami side. Mario has three TO's with about 50 seconds to go and he lets the clock run out. Sitting there in the stands you're wondering if MARIO BET LOUISVILLE because no one can be that dumb. Than again he's done it his entire head coaching career. I'm hoping someway we get into the 12 man playoff but if not this is 100% on MARIO AND HE NEEDS TO MAN UP AND TAKE FULL RESPONSIBLITY for his poor judgement. The penalties too are out of control and that's his fault because he can't correct it.

 

[AtrainCane]

I lowkey blame that game on the following
- Jojo drop shifted momentum A LOT
- Marty Brown & not Fletcher on the play where we needed 1 yard
- The PI no call & the unnecessary roughness on Lightfoot

Lofton dropping a touchdown and jojo turning a long completion into an interception.

But for some strange reason this board no matter what happens blames Mario. Even when the players are put in perfect positions to make plays. Catch the dam ball. No coaching staff in America, ours included is coaching kids that have been playing since they could walk to drop the ball.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Nope. I dont believe that. It comes down to Mario.

He wanted to eeek out close games. It came back to bite him in the *** and instead of mixing it up he doubled down against SMU. When you try to eeek out games and you aren't Saban Bama elite on both sides your margin for error is minimal. In fact it lead to ND and FSU coming back and us nearly ******** the pooch with Florida. This style doesnt work against a competent offense.

Now they have opened it up. Mind you we are playing better with more starters out.

I believe Mario will learn a hard lesson here. Lean on them can and will come back to bite you in the *** if that is all you rely on.

Saw a stat that Miami is 128th in time between plays… the play calling has changed but the pace hasn’t.

 

[Gocanes1990]

Losing to Louisville was almost inevitable when you go down 14-0 in the first quarter and your QB throws four interceptions, including one on the final drive. I'm not going to waste energy there.

But I just can't get past Mario's decision to kneel the ball to force overtime against SMU in Dallas.

1st and 10, 0:25 seconds left, one timeout at your 25 yard line. Beck was playing well, you were moving the ball in the air, and we have a kicker that can hit from 50+ yards. It just baffles me to this day that he made the call to go to overtime instead of playing to win in regulation.

Two completions + a long kick and we're sitting at 10-1, ACCCG all but locked up and CFP playoff birth waiting for us.

That loss stings almost as bad as the Syracuse loss last year. This is a top-10 team, and we're likely going to be playing in the Pop-Tart bowl again this year...

Was terribly coached but even more poorly officiated. That fumble overturn was insane. We all know the other blown calls as well… such a bummer. Just beat Pitt 10-2 two years in a row, painful but improvement

 

[flips]

Think the failure to let it rip with Beck on the turnover on downs drive and the next one when we got the FG is what cost us the SMU game more than the kneel. We had 2nd/3rd/4th and short from favorable field position a handful of times and ran inside everytime, if I recall. More costly than choosing to kneel from our own 25 with :25 seconds left IMO.

 

[1mg of Epi]

Lofton dropping a touchdown and jojo turning a long completion into an interception.

But for some strange reason this board no matter what happens blames Mario. Even when the players are put in perfect positions to make plays. Catch the dam ball. No coaching staff in America, ours included is coaching kids that have been playing since they could walk to drop the ball.

When you play at a snails pace and purposefully limit your possessions, you amplify the impact of every mistake… and there will always be mistakes.

That’s not putting players in perfect t position to do anything.

 

[nickster]

Lofton dropping a touchdown and jojo turning a long completion into an interception.

But for some strange reason this board no matter what happens blames Mario. Even when the players are put in perfect positions to make plays. Catch the dam ball. No coaching staff in America, ours included is coaching kids that have been playing since they could walk to drop the ball.

A coach is suppose to help the team win with coaching decisions on the sidelines that benefit the team. Please get real and what games are you watching? The guy is a disaster and deserves the criticism. He is a very good recruiter and that's about it. Do you realize ths man has been given all types of financial resources and we are still struggling to win the ACC and get into the playoffs.

 

[Canes1135]

Can’t forget the classic fumble oh wait not a fumble call

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Lofton dropping a touchdown and jojo turning a long completion into an interception.

But for some strange reason this board no matter what happens blames Mario. Even when the players are put in perfect positions to make plays. Catch the dam ball. No coaching staff in America, ours included is coaching kids that have been playing since they could walk to drop the ball.

I say this all the time here, this board, and this world, have massive problems living in gray areas. Everything has to be black and white in this world, it's weird. Almost always, things are in the middle.

Both can be true.

The players were put into positions to make plays against SMU. Too often, they didn't do it. A drop that turns into an INT. A drop that takes 4 points off the board. A well blocked play that our back doesn't see/feel, and instead of running for a game winning 30 yard TD, he's dropped for a loss. That same back missing a cut and instead of scoring in OT, he gets tripped up, and we throw a pick. Throwing that pick, which simply cannot happen. SMU making a totally ridiculous, circus catch to turn a game-tying FG from 49 yards to 38 yards.

Some of the most insanely maddening officiating I've ever seen.

AND....Mario making horrible decisions, such as taking a knee when you have 25 seconds and a timeout, a kicker with a massive leg, and had just watched Wake Forest get into field goal range in ONE PLAY the literal week before. Dawson not calling a single pass in a short yardage situation, when the strength of the defense he's facing is against the run. Not one throw. Just A-gap run after A-gap run literally every single time we have 3 yards to go or less, regardless of down, time on the clock, field position, etc. It's like AI calls the plays and we just plug in "if you see 3 or less to go, run the ball on duo into one of the A-gaps".

All of these things contribute to losses. It's not one decision by a coach. That's insane.

 

[stormsurge13]

If Marty Brown didn’t run with blinders on during the SMU game that would’ve helped

 

[TaylorWalls]

When you play at a snails pace and purposefully limit your possessions, you amplify the impact of every mistake… and there will always be mistakes.

That’s not putting players in perfect t position to do anything.

Where does this "snail's pace" thing come from? And why are we right there in number of possessions with teams like Indiana, Ole Miss, and Oregon?