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If it’s Mario…

Manfred_Cane said:
Moorhead is going to Akron so if Mario came here, he'd need a new OC to begin with. He tried to let Anthony Brown pass and has proven that he can't throw for ****.

Michigan would beat Cincy. Cincy hasn't played a good defense since Notre Dame. And Michigans defense is probably better than Notre Dame defense to. Michigan would run the ball, control the clock, make key 3rd down conversions and win.
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Whose fault is it that Brown can’t pass? Mario brought him in to be QB 1. Moorhead runs an outdated offense, and Mario also hired him.

Also, we’ll see who wins if they end up meeting up in the playoff. It might not even happen.
 
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Canesallday09 said:
Y’all gonna complain regardless. Mario has been to 3 straight pac championship games.

We’ve only been to one ACC championship game and haven’t won 10 regular season games in god know how long.

Mario is the coach we need to get us back to being a serious program.
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Bro, they were 3rd in their division (3-2), lost to 2 unranked teams, went to the game because the other 2 dropped out.

They lost to 1-3 Cal (their only win) and 2-5 Oregon St.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
People like to ignore that fact that EITHER Mario or Lane would want to be paid MARKET. Neither one is going to give Miami some "hometown discount" (though if anyone would, it would be Mario).

People act like a headline-grabbing leak by Lane's agent (I'll take a reasonable offer to coach Miami) is some sort of "hey, pay me $1 a year and a big bonus when we make the ACC-CG" promise.

Lane may be slippery, but he's not stupid. He knows what a "reasonable offer" will be in this current salary-skyrocket environment.

And let's be honest about "salary" anyhow. You take a reasonable offer when you WANT to be in a particular location. Some of these "overpays" are to CONVINCE a coach to leave a good situation for the lure of the unknown.

If Manny wants to move to Miami and leave Oregon, there will be no "bidding war". Phil Knight understands that, but lots of CIS posters seem to think that coaching hires are simply eBay auctions, but with bigger numbers.
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are you "Dr. Evil"?

jesus with the air quotes
 
Pentagon Cane said:
I am not sure James was handpicked. He fell into the job after being the interim. He was the former AD at University of Maine. Our last two ADs were in Coral Gables for about the time to finish off a cup of coffee. Athletic Department wasn't in bad shape in 2013. Basketball had just won the ACC. Football team won 9 games. By 2016, football team won its first bowl game in a decade. Basketball made the Sweet 16. Baseball team made the World Series. It was becoming clear by 2018 something was terribly wrong at Hecht. Dude should have been fired on how the whole Diaz affair went down. Baseball program was a mess and basketball was in real trouble, too.
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James aside. he was kept in place for a lot longer than he should've (I get it when he was elevated (NCAA stuff going on made the gig undesirable).
 
JimmyJohnsonsHair said:
Which is one of the reasons why he's not my top choice. Never hire someone you can't fire.
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If you segregate the AD hire from being a "Miami guy" and stop letting the BOT influence the AD then anyone can be fired.

Makes it impossible if you've got Torretta as an AD trying to fire Mario the HC being former teammates.

If USC can fire Swann.. anyone can be fired.
 
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JayCane20 said:
If you segregate the AD hire from being a "Miami guy" and stop letting the BOT influence the AD then anyone can be fired.

Makes it impossible if you've got Torretta as an AD trying to fire Mario the HC being former teammates.

If USC can fire Swann.. anyone can be fired.
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agree w this. didn't Swann mainly get canned after the scandal with the athletic dept and admissions?
 
People *****ing about the potential of hiring a coach who's won 9 (coming off Willie's 7-6 and the year before), 12, and 10 (possibly 11-12 this year with conference championship game and bowl left to be played) in his first three non-COVID full seasons at Oregon when we've averaged 7 wins a year for two decades.

IF we get Mario, I'm not worried. His first recruiting class will be top 10, if not top 5, we'll be playing in Charlotte on the first Saturday in December more often than not, and in a few years will have a completely different status and stature in CFB than we do right now. That's the best we can realistically hope for right now - stop the bleeding and return to relevance. That can happen overnight come this weekend if we don't **** this up.

For **** sake. I'm generally considered a mope (proudly) around here, but some of you people give that term a bad name.
 
JayCane20 said:
I have no idea.. I hope that's not what it took because we're about to be in the same boat as them hiring Swann.
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actually he wasn't even fired haha (technically tho it could've been to save face for him)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/sports/usc-lynn-swann-resigns.html

he resigned publicly due to the scandal. yeah they weren't gonna fire him. lol USC was the subject of two FBI investigations in his time and it took the second one where people served time for him to resign lol
 
Silver King said:
What's new? Pre season on here says we compete every year no matter whose been the coach. Then the losses start and the predictable "if" posts": "If we win out"; "If Pitt beats VT"; "There's still an outside chance."
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What's new is Diaz out and Mario in. That would change a lot. Addition: Elite recruiter, trench developer, no bs, and possibly an elite staff. Subtraction: Bs, can't develop, can't recruit, inexperienced staff with no leadership
 
JayCane20 said:
We probably get the Mark Richt of Georgia 9-3 or 10-2 every year for 15 years out of Mario. I'm not convinced he wins a ring but with the conference down and looking like Clemson is getting weaker it should be an easy path. We'll be stable. Maybe there's an elite recruiting class that he cleans up one year and we make a run for it.

At this point its just about stability.
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That's a pretty high floor whereas I see a pretty sizable chance of Mario being the opposite of that.

Having the entire West Coast to yourself for the years you've been there and with the backing of Nike and a committed university presents unparalleled advantages over what he'd get here. I understand that Oregon wasn't known for finishing with top 10 classes before Mario, and that is because he's a proven recruiter, but you cannot overlook how down the West Coast and Pac-12 have been since he's been there. And despite his talent advantage that he was able to accumulate he would still be good for 1-3 terrible games a year, winning a majority of his games in an ugly fashion, and never fielding a dynamic offense despite having Justin ******* Herbert (who he inherited).

He's not going to recruit much better than he has at Oregon here at Miami, not with the shark infested waters that is SFLA, so what he's done at Oregon is pretty much his ceiling --- and that's best case scenario. If he comes to Miami and struggles to land top prospects like he's doing at Oregon then I fear what gamedays would look like because he's proven that he really relies on talent advantages to get him over the hump.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
So would that be a higher winning percentage than any UM head coach since Larry Coker? Just trying to do a bit of math-checking.
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It wouldn’t. It would equal Richt. So if the chosen can’t beat out a coach who was near retirement he shouldn’t be the chosen one
 
TheOriginalCane said:
You are so right. It was imposssssible to fire Randy Shannon...
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The people who hired Randy aren’t the same people who are hiring Mario.

Also, Mario will be making an astronomical amount of money here & being paid by people he’s both related to by marriage & close with in culture & upbringing, they’re his guys.

Which means he ain’t going nowhere. Hopefully it yields great results.
 
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