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MIATL said:
TedHendricksOffspring said:
Greg Schiano attempted to cover up his players contracting and nearly dying of MRSA and when it became public he tried to blame them. He will never get a coaching job here and that's a good. It's awfully hard to recruit when you almost killed some of your guys. Parents don't want to send you their sons at that point.
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Are you sure "Greg Schiano attempted to cover up his players contracting and nearly dying of MRSA and when it became public he tried to blame them.", or is that your perspective of the situation.

I'm fairly certain the Bucs organization told Greg what to say, and he followed the company script. The team was trying to keep the guys off the IR list, so they tried to make the MRSA situation "non-football related", for team purposes. But I highly doubt that was Schiano's call.

This is an interesting point you make, though ...

Schiano has the MRSA situation ... Butch has the UNC academic situation. Both have smoke. But somehow, Butch fans need proof of guilt for the UNC situation to be accepted, but rumor is sufficient for the MRSA situation to be accurate?

There are plenty of reasons to not like Schiano ... His tenure with the Bucs, how he handled Josh Freeman, how he didn't turn Rutgers into "the Boise State of the Big East", or how he turned us down the last time we came calling.

But going with MRSA is a stretch, IMO.
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http://deadspin.com/its-official-greg-schianos-players-hate-his-guts-1451399471

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...es-tampa-bay-buccaneers-with-autocratic-style

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...disagrees-with-greg-schiano-on-kickers-health

Even if it wasn't his call, he certainly went above and beyond the call of duty to convince people of the company line.

The biggest difference between the two situations is that Butch was found innocent multiple times of knowing that the UNC classes were fake. Schiano almost killed people and the evidence is there to support that while it exonerates Butch. I'm focusing on MRSA because it almost resulted in death and in college football where recruiting is key this will be an insurmountable obstacle. You think the NCAA cloud was used against by other teams? The MRSA incident, especially with in state recruits, will be unbeatable.

I actually think he's a better coach then most on here do. We'd have great defenses and the kids would stay in line. His Buccaneers tenure is kind of irrelevant to me because Butch had a bad session with the Browns and he's my first choice for the job. NFL performances don't have much of a bearing on college for me. I don't want Schiano because I think he has a ceiling of 8 wins here and that's not our standard. His Rutgers performance kind of confirms that.
 
MIATL said:
TedHendricksOffspring said:
MIATL513 said:
Bill Lazor
Greg Schiano
Justin Fuente
Will Muschamp
Mark Stoops
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No Butch but you have Muschamp? Go sit in a corner. You're in timeout.
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LOL

... But there's already so much "Butch love" on this board. :based-duke2:

And if Mario Cristobal can become a quality HC after 2 seasons with Saban, certainly Muschamp will be able to figure out how to improve his future offenses just by being on staff with Malzhan ... :nba-wade_amused-amu
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If your list was supposed to contain the best candidates, it should have Butch and definitely not had Muschamp.

Critsobal is a quality head coach now? Who's he coaching? Alabama wanted his head on a silver platter until recently because he wasn't even a good OL coach. He had major NFL talent all over his line with guys like Kouandjo and they got their asses handed to them by Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl and before that.

Maybe Muschamp could become competent offensively under Malzahn. Who knows? With much better candidates out there who I know are competent on both sides of the ball and Butch the God himself available now and not needing development, I'd wait on Muschamp until he was at a different school and actually displayed enough evidence that his offenses wouldn't suck anymore.

As far as the Butch love is concerned, with the movie that just came out and the predicament we are in, it is very much warranted.
 
MIATL said:
MIATL513 said:
Bill Lazor
Greg Schiano
Justin Fuente
Will Muschamp
Mark Stoops
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Lazor:
Current NFL OC for the Dolphins, so location is easy and he has the NFL pedigree. He'd also do wonders with our QBs. And as an offensive guy, he'd just have to make the right defensive hires. Was on Chip Kelly's offensive staff in Philly, allowing him to implement that style of O pretty easily. Cornell graduate, so he's smart. From most reports, he seems to be a "control" guy, meaning he'd probably like to run his own show. He coached at UVA (I know, I know), but that gives him familiarity with the ACC.

Schiano:
I'm off that wagon

Fuente:
He'll have to win his bowl game against BYU, first. Then, win the conference again. If he pulls that off, I think he would be an awesome candidate. Coached at TCU, which is a similar school to UM. He'd also come relatively inexpensive, since he's coming from Memphis. That should help with the staff salaries, as we could give him more to hire quality guys with since he won't be a $3MM coach next year. *But it looks like he is about to lose his DC to Missouri, so his staff selections will be interesting. Also have to question if he can handlt the "big city lights" of SoFl.

Muschamp:
Hopefully, he learns enough from Malzhan to field a competent O at his next HC spot. He's also getting an up close and personal look at their facilities, and will put a plan in place for what he needs to compete BEFORE accepting the gig. We need the next coach to put the admin's feet to the fire on upgrades ... I think that will be a major component Muschamp considers at his next gig. He's got recruiting ties. Not a homerun hire, but I suspect he might want another chance to prove himself. *He's probably gonna hang out in Auburn, learning how to beat Malzhan's offense until Steve Spurrier leaves, and then will take that job.

Stoops:
He's got to make a bowl game next year. Franklin made Vanderbilt "respectable". For Stoops to remain viable, he'd have to do the same with UK. With his roster, winning more than 6 games means he did a really good job, IMO. He's familiar with the school, familiar with the conference, recruited in the area, and the UM job is a "step-up" over UK. He's also got some existing staff relationships that can help with the transition. *Question is ... Is he enough of an upgrade over Fuente to justify the salary he would likely require to move from Lexington?
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Would take Lazor. At least he's an X's and O's guy that can maximize South Florida talent ala Lamar Miller. Don't how he could recruit. Something tells me very avaerage but the Dolphins connection would help that and he could improve by not being stubborn like Golden.

Pass on Schiano even though I don't think he sucks as much as everybody else does.

Would take Fuente. I want to see another season of impressive performances before I make that move but I do think he'd be a decent enough recruiter and I like his Southern connections that spread through and past Florida.

Pass on Muschamp. Can't coach offense. Lost to Golden. Would have one Sugar Bowl-esque year and then go right into the toilet like he did at Florida.

Would take Stoops. My third choice after Butch and Pinkel. Would recruit circles around people; him and the staff. Aggressive, effective defenses. Miami/Butch lineage. Has FSU pull. I like him a lot as I continue to think about it.
 
i think the mrsa thing was going on in tampa well before schiano i remember reading a story about it when kellen winslow was there
 
MIATL said:
MIATL513 said:
Bill Lazor
Greg Schiano
Justin Fuente
Will Muschamp
Mark Stoops
Click to expand...

Lazor:
Current NFL OC for the Dolphins, so location is easy and he has the NFL pedigree. He'd also do wonders with our QBs. And as an offensive guy, he'd just have to make the right defensive hires. Was on Chip Kelly's offensive staff in Philly, allowing him to implement that style of O pretty easily. Cornell graduate, so he's smart. From most reports, he seems to be a "control" guy, meaning he'd probably like to run his own show. He coached at UVA (I know, I know), but that gives him familiarity with the ACC.

Schiano:
I'm off that wagon

Fuente:
He'll have to win his bowl game against BYU, first. Then, win the conference again. If he pulls that off, I think he would be an awesome candidate. Coached at TCU, which is a similar school to UM. He'd also come relatively inexpensive, since he's coming from Memphis. That should help with the staff salaries, as we could give him more to hire quality guys with since he won't be a $3MM coach next year. *But it looks like he is about to lose his DC to Missouri, so his staff selections will be interesting. Also have to question if he can handlt the "big city lights" of SoFl.

Muschamp:
Hopefully, he learns enough from Malzhan to field a competent O at his next HC spot. He's also getting an up close and personal look at their facilities, and will put a plan in place for what he needs to compete BEFORE accepting the gig. We need the next coach to put the admin's feet to the fire on upgrades ... I think that will be a major component Muschamp considers at his next gig. He's got recruiting ties. Not a homerun hire, but I suspect he might want another chance to prove himself. *He's probably gonna hang out in Auburn, learning how to beat Malzhan's offense until Steve Spurrier leaves, and then will take that job.

Stoops:
He's got to make a bowl game next year. Franklin made Vanderbilt "respectable". For Stoops to remain viable, he'd have to do the same with UK. With his roster, winning more than 6 games means he did a really good job, IMO. He's familiar with the school, familiar with the conference, recruited in the area, and the UM job is a "step-up" over UK. He's also got some existing staff relationships that can help with the transition. *Question is ... Is he enough of an upgrade over Fuente to justify the salary he would likely require to move from Lexington?
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Butch is far and beyond my first choice and should be Miami's, but I would definitely settle for Stoops. He can recruit at Kentucky, he could do amazing things at Miami. He's not afraid to fire his staff if they don't do their job, and the last name is an indicator that he is a good coach. I feel like he could compete with Jimbo in coaching and recruiting and maybe build that fence around the state of miami again.
 
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mjackson6 said:
MIATL said:
MIATL513 said:
Bill Lazor
Greg Schiano
Justin Fuente
Will Muschamp
Mark Stoops
Click to expand...

Lazor:
Current NFL OC for the Dolphins, so location is easy and he has the NFL pedigree. He'd also do wonders with our QBs. And as an offensive guy, he'd just have to make the right defensive hires. Was on Chip Kelly's offensive staff in Philly, allowing him to implement that style of O pretty easily. Cornell graduate, so he's smart. From most reports, he seems to be a "control" guy, meaning he'd probably like to run his own show. He coached at UVA (I know, I know), but that gives him familiarity with the ACC.

Schiano:
I'm off that wagon

Fuente:
He'll have to win his bowl game against BYU, first. Then, win the conference again. If he pulls that off, I think he would be an awesome candidate. Coached at TCU, which is a similar school to UM. He'd also come relatively inexpensive, since he's coming from Memphis. That should help with the staff salaries, as we could give him more to hire quality guys with since he won't be a $3MM coach next year. *But it looks like he is about to lose his DC to Missouri, so his staff selections will be interesting. Also have to question if he can handlt the "big city lights" of SoFl.

Muschamp:
Hopefully, he learns enough from Malzhan to field a competent O at his next HC spot. He's also getting an up close and personal look at their facilities, and will put a plan in place for what he needs to compete BEFORE accepting the gig. We need the next coach to put the admin's feet to the fire on upgrades ... I think that will be a major component Muschamp considers at his next gig. He's got recruiting ties. Not a homerun hire, but I suspect he might want another chance to prove himself. *He's probably gonna hang out in Auburn, learning how to beat Malzhan's offense until Steve Spurrier leaves, and then will take that job.

Stoops:
He's got to make a bowl game next year. Franklin made Vanderbilt "respectable". For Stoops to remain viable, he'd have to do the same with UK. With his roster, winning more than 6 games means he did a really good job, IMO. He's familiar with the school, familiar with the conference, recruited in the area, and the UM job is a "step-up" over UK. He's also got some existing staff relationships that can help with the transition. *Question is ... Is he enough of an upgrade over Fuente to justify the salary he would likely require to move from Lexington?
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Butch is far and beyond my first choice and should be Miami's, but I would definitely settle for Stoops. He can recruit at Kentucky, he could do amazing things at Miami. He's not afraid to fire his staff if they don't do their job, and the last name is an indicator that he is a good coach. I feel like he could compete with Jimbo in coaching and recruiting and maybe build that fence around the state of miami again.
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Good point on the Stoops name. Mike killed it at Arizona.
 
extreme retardation, how can we consider a guy that was 1 game over .500 as a head coach, we have a **** like that right now
 
lets go for the craziest wish JIMMY...............come back Jimmy.................Jimmy we need to be CANES again
 
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