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Idk why some of you are so concerned about Nickel as our starter

Luke Caneswalker said:
Exactly. His duties are split. We need a dedicated QB coach… Its that simple. No thesis required.
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Don't particularly care all that much if we do or not. I think the NFL is the one that can benefit and invest MUCH more in pure QB coaches than they have been.
The real QB work is mental imo. The physical part is mostly the live reps which is only happening in practice regardless who the qb coach is or if it's a dedicated guy or not anyways.

Like I said throw with the receivers in offseason (this also when they work with their dedicated QB coach to improve their mechanics) and after practices, And the rest of the time they need to be spending time learning offenses and defenses.
 
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Calinative said:
Don't particularly care all that much if we do or not. I think the NFL is the one that can benefit and invest MUCH more in pure QB coaches than they have been.
The real QB work is mental imo. The physical part is mostly the live reps which is only happening in practice regardless who the qb coach is or if it's a dedicated guy or not anyways.

Like I said throw with the receivers in offseason (this also when they work with their dedicated QB coach to improve their mechanics) and after practices, And the rest of the time they need to be spending time learning offenses and defenses.
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You’re close. Football and playing the quarterback position is more nuanced than that. Your separation of the two mental/ physical and its importance is plain ignorant to the craft.

Nothing can replicate mental processing, marksmanship with your passes, factoring down and distance, weather scenarios, pre snap reads, post snap reads, your RG missing his block, double A gap pressure, your Y receiver running the wrong route, making the right read in 3 seconds or get smacked.

YOU DONT KNOW BALL! A QB coach can encourage good habits and correct mistakes on all the above. We need that at the collegiate level, high school level, pro level…

No simple simon *** approach of playing Games on the Oculus VR, and scrimmaging plays while just addressing mechanics can replicate that.
 
Luke Caneswalker said:
Nothing can replicate mental processing, marksmanship with your passes, factoring down and distance, weather scenarios, pre snap reads, post snap reads, your RG missing his block, double A gap pressure, your Y receiver running the wrong route, making the right read in 3 seconds or get smacked.
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VR+AI will absolutely 100% be able to replicate this lmao. maybe it isn't there yet, but it will.

Luke Caneswalker said:
YOU DONT KNOW BALL! A QB coach can encourage good habits and correct mistakes on all the above. We need that at the collegiate level, high school level, pro level…

No simple simon *** approach of playing Games on the Oculus VR, and scrimmaging plays while just addressing mechanics can replicate that.
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ok lol
 
Calinative said:
Don't particularly care all that much if we do or not. I think the NFL is the one that can benefit and invest MUCH more in pure QB coaches than they have been.
The real QB work is mental imo. The physical part is mostly the live reps which is only happening in practice regardless who the qb coach is or if it's a dedicated guy or not anyways.

Like I said throw with the receivers in offseason (this also when they work with their dedicated QB coach to improve their mechanics) and after practices, And the rest of the time they need to be spending time learning offenses and defenses.
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I’m not stereotyping you but just speaking in general. Too many posters believe 7 on 7 and passing on air is the end all be all or good enough.

That only builds timing, tendencies, and playbook knowledge. That in no shape is enough to develop a QB for gameday.

No ******* VR video game does it either.
 
Luke Caneswalker said:
I’m not stereotyping you but just speaking in general. Too many posters believe 7 on 7 and passing on air is the end all be all or good enough.

That only builds timing, tendencies, and playbook knowledge. That in no shape is enough to develop a QB for gameday.

No ******* VR video game does it either.
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... but a dedicated Qb coach outside of live scrimmaging does? Or is the Qb coach showing **** on a white board supposed to be better than VR+AI? and what exactly is Dawson doing during that time? lol. **** 95% of the job a dedicated QB coach would ACTUALLY have is teaching them how to watch film and serve as like their sports psychologist lol...

I will stereotype - you are probably older and have too low expectations what is coming with AI. It's better to be ahead with this technology and working it into the program and our QBs, than behind. It'll be a very powerful TOOL (eventually). This type of tool, Live scrimmages, throwing to wrs on air to build chemistry and just pure work on your accuracy, and the OC+QB coach we already have, combined with their own dedicated QB coach they already pay for in the offseason to make the big mechanical corrections, is 95%+ of the development you will likely ever see out of a QB while in college. And ultimately at the end of the day pure live reps with natural talent is physically the vast majority of it.

There is no silver bullet. And I don't even get why yall think we should be some elite QB developer out of HS lol. Our current portal strategy works.
But I am saying dedicating millions towards future technology like this is a better investment for QB specifically than a dedicated QB coach even if its 10x the cost. Like what do yall think we should be doing investing to turn a pumpkin into an elite player?
 
Calinative said:
... but a dedicated Qb coach outside of live scrimmaging does? Or is the Qb coach showing **** on a white board supposed to be better than VR+AI? and what exactly is Dawson doing during that time? lol. **** 95% of the job a dedicated QB coach would ACTUALLY have is teaching them how to watch film and serve as like their sports psychologist lol...

I will stereotype - you are probably older and have too low expectations what is coming with AI. It's better to be ahead with this technology and working it into the program and our QBs, than behind. It'll be a very powerful TOOL (eventually). This type of tool, Live scrimmages, throwing to wrs on air to build chemistry and just pure work on your accuracy, and the OC+QB coach we already have, combined with their own dedicated QB coach they already pay for in the offseason to make the big mechanical corrections, is 95%+ of the development you will likely ever see out of a QB while in college. And ultimately at the end of the day pure live reps with natural talent is physically the vast majority of it.

There is no silver bullet. And I don't even get why yall think we should be some elite QB developer out of HS lol. Our current portal strategy works.
But I am saying dedicating millions towards future technology like this is a better investment for QB specifically than a dedicated QB coach even if its 10x the cost. Like what do yall think we should be doing investing to turn a pumpkin into an elite player?
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Ok.
 
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