I spoke with a current player.

[supacane]

Cant believe Gattis still around. Mario really tripping.

 

[jakeman1]

If they’re running a lot of the same concepts, it’s easier for a new OC to learn the verbiage the team already knows, and use the same “language” to plug in his own plays, instead of making players learn a new system.

 

[UMFarArcher]

I hate hearing that our OC cant “connect” with the players.

That's IT!

Mystery solved!

Connection problems!

So! We replace the offensive players - or the single ******* who can't "connect" to any of the players? Players "connected" to our previous OC - so who's at fault here?

Which is easier to replace and who is more likely the problem? One half-OC from MICHIGAN? Or all our Offensive players?

Did our entire offense regress on their own? Or was our problem the dipsiht Offensive Coordinator that we all saw call some of the dumbest playcalls given down and distance ever seen?

Three minutes left on the clock, two runs up the middle for no gain, third and ten, and we call the same play one more time when the defense is all lined up shoulder to shoulder like they were posing for a team picture?

That's not a communication problem - that's a dumbass problem - as in Offensive Coordinator.

 

[Highline17]

That's IT!

Mystery solved!

Connection problems!

So! We replace the offensive players - or the single ******* who can't "connect" to any of the players? Players "connected" to our previous OC - so who's at fault here?

Which is easier to replace and who is more likely the problem? One half-OC from MICHIGAN? Or all our Offensive players?

Did our entire offense regress on their own? Or was our problem the dipsiht Offensive Coordinator that we all saw call some of the dumbest playcalls given down and distance ever seen?

Three minutes left on the clock, two runs up the middle for no gain, third and ten, and we call the same play one more time when the defense is all lined up shoulder to shoulder like they were posing for a team picture?

That's not a communication problem - that's a dumbass problem - as in Offensive Coordinator.

Sounds like your mad, but I think literally everyone here wants Gattis gone, I don’t think people are arguing differently

 

[UMFarArcher]

Sounds like your mad, but I think literally everyone here wants Gattis gone, I don’t think people are arguing differently

Not mad. Just sick and tired of UM Head Coaches, Admins - whoever taking turns doing some of the most stupid siht possible. If it's not a D'Onofrio idiot as a DC - it's a dumbass Gattis as an OC - or Head Coaches who have all the answers - have their own vision of what we should be - and can't for the life of anyone - take a look at what won us our titles in the past.

I don't know why in Hades we pick coaches that feel the need to each time - reinvent the wheel!

Dumbasses DO learn from their mistakes. Half-wits learn from the mistakes of others.

Yeah - Mario's a dumbass for holding onto a non-productive OC. And it's going to take him much, much longer to get to winning as he's got to do something we've never done. Pro spread. How about something we can do now - and begin a transition?

If you're Head Painter is color blind - you're a dumbass.

 

[OptimusCreampie]

This is hilarious. The main takeaway from the player is that he thinks his teammates are morons. That's all I got from this.

I could’ve told you that

 

[OldhamA]

I don't think Lashlee was an exceptional playcaller or wunderkind Xs and Os scheme guy - what mattered was the tempo, spacing, and routes. It played to the strengths of the offense (both with King and TVD as QB- very different QBs). I doubt Diaz would have replaced Lashlee with someone who had a radically different approach. There are countless OCs at all levels of CFB that run a Mike Leach - inspired offense. Any of those guys likely would have picked up where Lashlee left off.

He's just gone to SMU and won 7 games - he's a better football coach than Diaz and absolutely gave off vibes that he was the one running the show last year.

 

[canes461]

The guys from Footballville also mentioned last night that a player described the new environment as military-like.

Awful.
These poor guys...




Mediocrity is easy.
Excellence is not.
Rise to the occasion.

 

[Dees Brown]

So, do the posters of CIS think this is a normal type transition from what we've heard to be a "player's coach/best friend" like Manny to a more strict disciplinarian coach like Mario seems to be? I have ZERO inside information or sources. Absolutely none. All I can pull from is my personal time in the military, both in basic and in SMU (Special Mission Units) type units, and it sounds very similar to what you have described. When we first arrived the drill sergeants hounded us relentlessly. It didn't matter what happened everyone was getting punished and it was usually physical in nature ( a smoking to those who are familiar or who may have served). Some people didn't make it. But, once we were there for a while the drills backed off as we began to learn what was expected of us and leaders began to emerge and took charge within the trainee ranks. We began to police ourselves and put in the necessary work to perform or accomplish whatever task was assigned to us. Like it seems you explained in your post, we also had individuals who just couldn't seem to "pick up" the material no matter how dumbed downed (Barney styled) they presented it.

Again, this is not an apples to apples comparison but it seems to be relatable? There were drill sergeants (coaches in this scenario) that could explain everything down to the level of the lowest common denominator (dumb asses) and those that couldn't. Didn't mean they were terrible at their jobs but more simply that maybe they were best suited in another role. There were also trainees that no matter how hard the drills tried or pushed, they just weren't going to be able to keep up or assimilate. Individuals (trainees, aka players) who by natural ability, or learned ability, eventually came to the front and set the standard that the rest would follow. Is this maybe part of what is being experienced now? Again, I have no idea of the day to day within the program.

Note: I think Gattis should be gone because his scheme doesn't seem to fit and he does not seem to be able to scheme around deficient position groups or call plays in a way that sets up plays for later on in the game. And the recruiting from what we know or have been told by CIS is less than average. Plus, from what we hear, he's an *******. I guess time will tell on this matter.....

I will now prepare myself to annihilated by CIS... LOL

Finally!! Someone with some ******* common sense. I have been saying this for a while.

 

[Hurracanes]

He said we ran a lot of the same stuff we did with Lashlee

Go watch tape after A&M. They actually tried to accommodate TVD. It’s literally in the tape.

 

[da truth]

Better than 5 wins. Or 7 wins. Yeah not where we want to be but talent alone should get us to the 9-10 win range in a few years based on his recruiting ability. We’ll win a big game here or there but also lose something we have no business losing. Similar to Oregon last year. If I have to chose that over not playing a bowl game I’ll go with it. I’ll always be a fan.

10 wins will have us in expanded playoff guaranteed imo

 

[da truth]

Cant believe Gattis still around. Mario really tripping.

Is it in fact Mario’s decision? It’s been reported in articles Gattis has a 7 figure buyout

 

[pyhooya]

Go watch tape after A&M. They actually tried to accommodate TVD. It’s literally in the tape.

They were not running anything like Lashlee. If you mean they started just throwing the ball a lot like Lashlee then ok. But they were not running the same things. Also they did that cause Parrish got hurt and they didnt have enough RBs to keep running the BS they had been

 

[Angry Ibis]

I promise you the “drill sergeant routine” isn’t as bad as the player thinks. It’s just new. You want to do this for a living you better bust your *** now.

You are likely right. It was said during the year: tough guy **** and do it my way assholeisms work better when the results are there to show why… we didn’t do that this year, so it was all pain, no gain…no clear path…

 

[Angry Ibis]

Go watch tape after A&M. They actually tried to accommodate TVD. It’s literally in the tape.

Never should have taken that long and the season was basically over after we didn’t play to win against A&M…

 

[S.CarolinaCane]

Nothing earth-shaking, but this place is pretty slow now anyways. This player is an upperclassmen and was on Manny's teams too. Mature kid.

In no particular order:

• He said that the guys that left had to leave. We've heard that a lot. Still hard for me to digest that 1/5 of the roster had to go.
• He was "surprised" that Darrell Jackson left. He said his loss will hurt.
• He said that the team would have won more games with Manny this season, but that long term, the team is better off with Mario.
• I asked him what he thought of Mario. He said Mario is a "good dude" and "focused." And that he knows how he wants to handle things at this stage of his life. It sounds as if Mario is far more structured than Manny. No surprise there. But I did sense a little reservation re: his thoughts on Mario. Personally, I think Mario may want to dial down the drill sergeant routine, at least once he gets his fingerprints on the roster. I think that'll come with time, particularly when Mario's upper-classmen can teach the under-classmen how to do things.
• He mentioned the injuries as a wild card this year. To my surprise, since I doubt many college-aged kids are familiar with this, he mentioned that this was not S&C but rather "bone" injuries (as he put it). That is a topic I don't want to discuss again but I'm pleased to hear that.
• He said that there are some "good" rooms and some "bad rooms." I mentioned I thought TE was a good room and he agreed and said Arroyo is a beast.
• He mentioned that Will has had 4 offensive coordinators in 5 years.
• That of course led into the topic of our favorite OC.
  • I told him that I didn't think Gattis did a good job of putting pressure on the defense. Little to no tempo. The "check with me" permitted the defense time to take a breather and assess the play. And that the lack of spacing precluded a lot of 1-on-1 opportunities. (I probably should have mentioned the lack of a deep ball too!)
  • He said that that is kind of what he thought early in the season too, but that he spent time in the room and didn't know what else Gattis could have done.
  • He said that he was able to understand what Gattis was conveying but the offense in general wasn't able to. Things were simplified but not understood.
  • He said that day 1 stuff was not understood well into the season. Like foundational stuff.
  • He said we ran a lot of the same stuff we did with Lashlee but with a different terminology but kids couldn't get it. Is this a result of having so much turnover in the offensive staff??
  • He suggested maybe Gattis' failed in regard to communication-although he understood it. Some coaches/individuals have a way of connecting with 18-22 year old kids. It doesn't sound like Gattis was able to connect with the majority of the team.
  • So, apparently, we are not talented on offense and dumb. Luckily, we're no longer broke. Because broke, dumb, and bad would be a bad combination.

That's all I got.

Personally, I think Mario may want to dial down the drill sergeant routine


After this your opinion didn't matter

 

[Geddy Lee]

Jackson has been the only true loss this offseason. Still need more guys to leave.

 

[calinative umstudent]

Well at the very least Gattis will be coaching like his career depends on it if he is kept. He's in a contract year and if he fails, there is zero shot he is given a HC opportunity within 4 years..

 

[P-Tizzle]

Nothing earth-shaking, but this place is pretty slow now anyways. This player is an upperclassmen and was on Manny's teams too. Mature kid.

In no particular order:

• He said that the guys that left had to leave. We've heard that a lot. Still hard for me to digest that 1/5 of the roster had to go.
• He was "surprised" that Darrell Jackson left. He said his loss will hurt.
• He said that the team would have won more games with Manny this season, but that long term, the team is better off with Mario.
• I asked him what he thought of Mario. He said Mario is a "good dude" and "focused." And that he knows how he wants to handle things at this stage of his life. It sounds as if Mario is far more structured than Manny. No surprise there. But I did sense a little reservation re: his thoughts on Mario. Personally, I think Mario may want to dial down the drill sergeant routine, at least once he gets his fingerprints on the roster. I think that'll come with time, particularly when Mario's upper-classmen can teach the under-classmen how to do things.
• He mentioned the injuries as a wild card this year. To my surprise, since I doubt many college-aged kids are familiar with this, he mentioned that this was not S&C but rather "bone" injuries (as he put it). That is a topic I don't want to discuss again but I'm pleased to hear that.
• He said that there are some "good" rooms and some "bad rooms." I mentioned I thought TE was a good room and he agreed and said Arroyo is a beast.
• He mentioned that Will has had 4 offensive coordinators in 5 years.
• That of course led into the topic of our favorite OC.
  • I told him that I didn't think Gattis did a good job of putting pressure on the defense. Little to no tempo. The "check with me" permitted the defense time to take a breather and assess the play. And that the lack of spacing precluded a lot of 1-on-1 opportunities. (I probably should have mentioned the lack of a deep ball too!)
  • He said that that is kind of what he thought early in the season too, but that he spent time in the room and didn't know what else Gattis could have done.
  • He said that he was able to understand what Gattis was conveying but the offense in general wasn't able to. Things were simplified but not understood.
  • He said that day 1 stuff was not understood well into the season. Like foundational stuff.
  • He said we ran a lot of the same stuff we did with Lashlee but with a different terminology but kids couldn't get it. Is this a result of having so much turnover in the offensive staff??
  • He suggested maybe Gattis' failed in regard to communication-although he understood it. Some coaches/individuals have a way of connecting with 18-22 year old kids. It doesn't sound like Gattis was able to connect with the majority of the team.
  • So, apparently, we are not talented on offense and dumb. Luckily, we're no longer broke. Because broke, dumb, and bad would be a bad combination.

That's all I got.

 

[canes732]

I hate hearing that our OC cant “connect” with the players.

I’m all for piling on Gattis but cmon how stupid can kids be to not understand things. ******* study it maybe idk. Gattis shouldn’t have to spoon feed these kids dumb and bad is worse then I could’ve thought