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LuCane said:
There really are tons of data points about guys who didn't play at a high level and ended up being more than successful - being innovators. Gus Malzahn is a college example who never played at a "high level." There are even more in the NFL. This came up about a decade ago on Canestime.com. Someone said basically you had to play in the NFL to be a legit coach and "know" football. I know that's not your argument exactly.

By the way, Manny's biggest failure this past year had nothing to do with his playing days. He could have thrown 250k to an experienced HR director and made a better decision than hiring Enos (who hired his buddies to come along).
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this.

the "never played" argument is trite.
 
nycane said:
Football is different because of the violence. Look at coaches who didn’t play. All gimmicks. He’s a skinny little guy, you think kids fear him the same way as a guy like Mario who is still hitting the weights? In so fla it’s different. You gotta be a killer.
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Problem is most kids of today aren't afraid - they know adults can't touch them and are more arrogant and defiant than any generation before because of it.

You don't have to be a former player to be tough or a respected hardass. You just have to carry yourself a certain way and set a tone of how you want others to see you. Respect is earned, not given. Toughness and strength are earned by actions, not words.
 
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Proctologist who has had a colonoscopy.
Dentist who has had a root canal.
 
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PSU Cane said:
Problem is most kids of today aren't afraid - they know adults can't touch them and are more arrogant and defiant than any generation before because of it.

You don't have to be a former player to be tough or a respected hardass. You just have to carry yourself a certain way and set a tone of how you want others to see you. Respect is earned, not given. Toughness and strength are earned by actions, not words.
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BINGO.

Manny knows what it is supposed to look like on paper.

He knows how to say the right things.

But then you get punched in the mouth and you show the world what is really on the inside.

That is how and why Manny lost the team.

UF was a toss up and games like UNC can happen on the road. But the Central Michigan debacle was all we needed to see.

When Urban, Dabo, and Saban face adversity, they usually LIVID at the teams’ underperformance. When have we seen Manny indignant and challenging his team’s bullshyt. Those moments happen for almost every team.

Manny be on the sideline looking like a 1st grader that just got his lunch money taken by a 6th grader and there are no teachers around to save him. Gonna be a hungry school day.

Modern kids are a bunch of Similac babies mostly raised by women that cater to them. You can’t bullshyt them with incompetence and smooth talking.

A truly confident, masculine leader is more important than it has ever been. Many of these guys have never been held accountable by a masculine man and you will lose some of them. That is ok because the ones who are left will have a leader they can believe in and trust, who will push them out of their comfort zone and make them the best they can be. They will rise because they won’t want to bear the consequences of failing this guy.

It is HUMAN NATURE. Miami hasn’t had a self aware, confident coach for a long time. We need to do a better job finding them before they become unaffordable.

But with the stories of what is going on at the Hecht and the fact we turned away guys like Mullen and Butch, it makes it appear all these phony, try hard, insecure coaches are being hired intentionally by design.
 
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LuCane said:
There really are tons of data points about guys who didn't play at a high level and ended up being more than successful - being innovators. Gus Malzahn is a college example who never played at a "high level." There are even more in the NFL. This came up about a decade ago on Canestime.com. Someone said basically you had to play in the NFL to be a legit coach and "know" football. I know that's not your argument exactly.

By the way, Manny's biggest failure this past year had nothing to do with his playing days. He could have thrown 250k to an experienced HR director and made a better decision than hiring Enos (who hired his buddies to come along).
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Malzahn played WR for 4 years in college. 2 at Arkansas before transferring.
 
CanesFanNC said:
Malzahn played WR for 4 years in college. 2 at Arkansas before transferring.
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He was a walk-on at Arkansas and then went to go play at Henderson State University. The argument has been coaches basically have to be "high level" college or even NFL players to "know football." We might be getting into semantics, but nothing in his playing career says "high level." Just like a bunch of other excellent coaches and innovators who either played D-2 ball, or even nothing serious at all.
 
Our previous coach played for Miami! So did the previous DC we promoted! Al Golden? Played for Patterno!
 
And the B-side? How many great coaches played at a high-level, meaning played at a multi-year All-American or multiple Pro-Bowl level?
 
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