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How will the ACC look in the next couple years?

We should never ever not win the Coastal. That said, we've got quite a bit of work to do to catch Clemson. Hopefully it happens sooner than later. šŸˆ
 
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My guess is that Dabo Sweeney eventually leaves Clemson for Alabama when Saban retires. I don't see Dabo going to the NFL.


Could happen after the 2019 or 2020 season.
 
Interesting, Iā€™m not so sold on Dabo to Bama after Saban retires. Why go there and constantly be compared to perhaps the greatest college football coach ever? He can keep his staff intact and remain at Clemson where he continues to win and is God to those people. If itā€™s all about the money, Iā€™m sure the Tigers can throw just as much his way, especially with the new ACCN deal. If I were him Iā€™d want no part of the Tide after Saban is finally gone.

As to FSU, we shall see if Briles is the heir apparent or not. Even if heā€™s the offensive genius theyā€™ve been dying to have, heā€™s still young and would have no HC experience. I would see them trying to snag a Herman or someone along those lines to come to Tallahassee.
 
filmcane said:
Assuming the Domers don't join us (which seems inevitable) how good will the ACC be over the next 2 years or so?

Here are my rankings for the next 2ish years, but I'd love to hear your guys take on it:

1. Clemson - They are the legit King Kong of the ACC and CFB! Unless Dabo is swayed to take over when Saban leaves or hop to the NFL after another NC or two, they aren't going anywhere for a while.
2. Miami - With Manny's hire and the people he's bought in, as of today, I'd say we're easily #2 in the ACC. If we get Hurts, we will be the 1st legitimate threat to Clemson and winning the ACC in 4 years (or whenever the rapist In Tally's last season was).
3. Syracuse - I'm totally happy with Manny, but their coach was in my top 3 for HC at the U. He will get NFL offers next season and larger colleges. If the donors at SU can step up and make him stay, they will be legit for at least the next couple years.
4. NC State - They are slowly building a legit team. It seemed like they bumped up a couple of seasons ago and you thought, "yeah, that was an aberration" but they have continued to stick around and develop players. They're a tough game now every time we play them.
5. PITT - If they can hold on to that coach, much like Syracuse, he is building something there. He's kind of a jerk, which we've all learned is not necessarily a bad thing in a HC. In fact, you could easily see them become the 3rd best team in the ACC if he sticks around.
6. FSU - Just based on the athletes they get alone, they will normally win 7 games or more. Like many of you, I just don't believe Taggert is a good coach. He's like the Zha Zha Gabor of college football - famous for being famous. It looks like he did upgrade some of his staff, and he's never stayed at a legit school long enough to ascertain whether or not he sucks or if he can actually improve, but until proven otherwise, the Noles are at best, 6th in the conference.
7. BC - Like some of these other schools above them, they are just incrementally getting better and bringing in the right players. They'll poised to have a break out year every now and again when the right players and coaches on their staff synergize.
8. UVA - They're kind of building something there. Also, the state produces a lot of talent and the school itself is quasi-Ivy league, so there's that pitch. Like so many of these other teams, if they keep their coach, they could build something serious.
9. Duke - Like many of these other schools, they could certainly be ranked higher depending on the year. They had some momentum a few years ago like they were building a VT type team, but it went away. That and they lost the best QB they've had in a while.
10. VT - Surprisingly low and they could quickly turn that around, but I don't think they will until they bring in another coach. Good news for them is that they do have athletes in their region that they traditionally recruit, so if the right guy came in, they could easily become the 3rd or 4th best team in the conference, but for the next year or two...
11. UNC - Mack Brown...I'll believe it when I see it.
12. GT - Who knows what the new guy will do, but now that they don't run that awful option anymore (thank God!!) they will have to overhaul the team. I'm listing them at 12, but the intriguing thing is, with them being in GA and moreover, being in ATL, that team has the potential to become a MONSTER program if the right coach goes there. Until proven otherwise, however...
13. Wake - NC has great talent. It's a strong academic school and every now and again, they jump up and get solid. Wakey wakey...
14. Louisville - This once proud team is just a dumpster fire. We'll see what new management can do, but unlike teams that are in talent rich areas like GT, this is gonna be a serious uphill struggle.
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We were 7-6 last year against a horrible schedule. We have plenty to prove and far from a good team. Clemson is in a class of their own in the league and the rest of the ACC are so so squads including UM. You may want to take off your rose colored glasses and look at our situation realistically
 
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CaneDog66 said:
Interesting, Iā€™m not so sold on Dabo to Bama after Saban retires. Why go there and constantly be compared to perhaps the greatest college football coach ever? He can keep his staff intact and remain at Clemson where he continues to win and is God to those people. If itā€™s all about the money, Iā€™m sure the Tigers can throw just as much his way, especially with the new ACCN deal. If I were him Iā€™d want no part of the Tide after Saban is finally gone.

As to FSU, we shall see if Briles is the heir apparent or not. Even if heā€™s the offensive genius theyā€™ve been dying to have, heā€™s still young and would have no HC experience. I would see them trying to snag a Herman or someone along those lines to come to Tallahassee.
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Its just my gut feel. Dabo could very well stay and make Clemson his lifetime gig. That was something the previous generation of coaches did but that mindset doesn't seem pervasive in CFB anymore.

I certainly don't see the NFL as a destination for Dabo. Guys like him seem to do better in college. At some point, Dabo being an Alabama alum might make him want to take on that challenge. Again its just my guess.
 
I donā€™t see Dabo leaving Clemson any time soon.

He doesnā€™t seem the NFL type, although the same could have been said for Spurrier. Maybe if Dabo wins another 2-3 NCs and feels the need for new challenge. I know heā€™s an Alabama alum but why follow a legacy when youā€™re creating your own? Clemson will pay what it takes to keep Dabo and his staff.
 
swampcougar1 said:
From NY north and east there is 7 states. Only 2 power 5 schools in those 7 states . That is Syracuse and BC. I have never understood why both are not really good every year. I can remember when Syracuse was a powerhouse.
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I you are recruiting lacrosse players you are in a hotbed. As far as HS football is concerned itā€™s largely below average
 
DoctorKrazey said:
The thing about Clemson is I could see their reign coming to an end in the next 5-7 years, mostly because I'm going to make a prediction that Saban will retire in the next 4-5 years and when that happens I think Bama throws the Brinks truck at Dabo and he bolts for Tuscaloosa. Clemson has recruited well under Dabo, but I think their primary strength is the coaching staff. Right around that time FSU's new coach will be hitting his stride(Urkle will be gone, trust me), and they should go back to running that division again.
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I think Dabo will stay at Clemson until he retires. They will build a statue of him in front of the stadium. To much pressure at Alabama compared to being the great one of Clemson.
 
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swampcougar1 said:
From NY north and east there is 7 states. Only 2 power 5 schools in those 7 states . That is Syracuse and BC. I have never understood why both are not really good every year. I can remember when Syracuse was a powerhouse.
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Southern schools started playing black players.
 
CaneDog66 said:
Interesting, Iā€™m not so sold on Dabo to Bama after Saban retires. Why go there and constantly be compared to perhaps the greatest college football coach ever? He can keep his staff intact and remain at Clemson where he continues to win and is God to those people. If itā€™s all about the money, Iā€™m sure the Tigers can throw just as much his way, especially with the new ACCN deal. If I were him Iā€™d want no part of the Tide after Saban is finally gone.

As to FSU, we shall see if Briles is the heir apparent or not. Even if heā€™s the offensive genius theyā€™ve been dying to have, heā€™s still young and would have no HC experience. I would see them trying to snag a Herman or someone along those lines to come to Tallahassee.
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Yeah, not sure if Dabo to Bama is an automatic.
He has a good thing going in Clemson, has access to the same recruits as Bama and has arguably an easier path
to the post-season (although I think ACC is going to get stronger).
 
Liberty City El said:
I don't see Taggart lasting long at FSU, in fact I wouldn't be shocked if he were fired this year or in 2020. The Boosters don't like him & many of them never wanted him in the first place, which means they're not going to be patient at all with him & considering they just hired his potential replacement in Briles the clock is ticking on Taggart.

GTech & Louisville could be sleepers imo. GTech will probably take a few years but Geoff Collins is a pretty good Defensive coach, he's a George O'leary disciple from back in his GTech days in the 90's & was with him at UCF, he also had some good Defenses at Miss St & UF. I don't think they'll win the Coastal anytime soon but I think they can be a 8-4 type team on a regular basis, but they simply will never be a recruiting powerhouse despite being in ATL, they don't have the resources & kids in Georgia will never view them as a go to destination.

Satterfield did a great job at App St, he's a really good Offensive coach & will have Lville's O up & running by year 2.
His challenge will be can he recruit well enough to keep up in the Atlantic, as a pure X's & O's guy he's already more advanced than Taggart but the difference is the access to talent & resources between the two programs.

With Mack Brown at UNC, he's been out of coaching for a while so I wonder if he still has the passion or is this just a late retirement gig for him. The one thing I will say, is he hired Phil Longo who's a great OC & has built some really good uptempo passing attack offenses, so at least on that front it looks like Mack isn't completely asleep at the wheel. He also hired two recruiters known for bag dropping, Lonnie Galloway & Time Brewster (lol), so we know UNC will amp up the cheating even more than they were before lol.
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I donā€™t know about you, but I think they doomed him when they declared they were going for a minority hire. Tarnished his hire immediately, withou reason. He was HC at major player in college football and legitimate candidate. I donā€™t think he is that good but he had better credentials for the job than jumbo when he got it.
 
iLoveTDs said:
This. No way is Kouisville that low.
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I don't live near AppyState nor have I ever attended school there, but I've watched alot of their games on the
internet, I can say that they are a well-coached squad on both sides of the ball.
Satterfield is a good one, and many of his assistants from both sides of ball have moved on to other programs.
GT's Paul Johnson nabbed their DC Nate Woody this past season.
He raved about how AppySTate played defense.
Woody was only there for one year so he didn't get a chance to get much accomplished.
But he's now at Army.
Keep an eye on him.
Anyways, back to Satterfield, he will do fine at UL.
 
Atlantic:
1. Clemson - nothing needs to be said. #1 team in the conference
2. NC State - Doerenā€™s done a reasonably good job there and I think theyā€™ll continue to be competitive
3. FSU - based purely on talent. Theyā€™ll be ā€œbetterā€ than they were this year but by how much?
4. Syracuse - could see them as high as #2 though
5. BC - 7-6ville
6. Wake - just not enough talent there
7. Louisville - this program is in *awful* shape Right now. I do think Satterfield turns them around eventually, but itā€™s going to be rough

Coastal
1. Miami - staying optimistic. Still the most talented program in the division by a long shot
2. UVA - well coached and will probably get better talent-wise as their record improves
3. Pitt - this is mainly by default and could be interchangeable with the next 2. I donā€™t think theyā€™re really building anything but theyā€™re probably the next-most talented team
4. VT - if Fuente canā€™t get it turned around this year, this program is in trouble.
5. Duke - meh. About their ceiling given their talent
6. GT - gonna be pretty rough next couple years
7. UNC - I think the Mack Brown sequel is going to be a massive flop.
 
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