forums

How is it N.C. RB Antonio Williams didn't have to sit out a year?

sitzee

sitzee

Freshman
Joined
Dec 18, 2012
Messages
689
UNC filed a waiver to get Ohio State transfer running back eligible for this season

N.C. RB Antonio Williams was a Sophomore at Ohio State and transferred to N.C. this summer. He's not a Graduate Transfer, but he applied for a hardship (citing family) waiver and was granted immediate eligibility? Also, Duke Offensive Lineman Jack Wohlabaugh (also from OSU) was granted immediate Eligibility this summer as well?
Coming out of High School Williams was a 4* recruit and had plenty of offers from ACC, SEC, & Big Ten schools but was the #3 RB on the OSU bench.
Does anyone know what the situation was with his family? I searched and couldn't find an answer. Why wouldn't every Highly Recruited player that's buried on the bench apply for this hardship waiver?
It's a terrible precedent the NCAA is setting, & It's a disaster waiting to happen!! What if one player is granted the waiver and another isn't?
 
Advertisement
sitzee said:
UNC filed a waiver to get Ohio State transfer running back eligible for this season

N.C. RB Antonio Williams was a Sophomore at Ohio State and transferred to N.C. this summer. He's not a Graduate Transfer, but he applied for a hardship (citing family) waiver and was granted immediate eligibility? Also, Duke Offensive Lineman Jack Wohlabaugh (also from OSU) was granted immediate Eligibility this summer as well?
Coming out of High School Williams was a 4* recruit and had plenty of offers from ACC, SEC, & Big Ten schools but was the #3 RB on the OSU bench.
Does anyone know what the situation was with his family? I searched and couldn't find an answer. Why wouldn't every Highly Recruited player that's buried on the bench apply for this hardship waiver?
It's a terrible precedent the NCAA is setting, & It's a disaster waiting to happen!! What if one player is granted the waiver and another isn't?
Click to expand...

It happens, alot. I think DJ johnson from cali used that same waiver to leave miami and go play for oregon. obviously you have to leave your home area and then want to come back for it to be used, maybe thats why not used as much.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
That’s silly. Newsflash: kids transfer from Alabama. It’s true.
Click to expand...

Not seeing the relevance. Bama trims the fat by pushing kids out, easily replaces them with great players from around the league. Would completely flip the sport around. If you want to transfer, sit out
 
Advertisement
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
The whole concept of making a kid sit out is unnecessarily punitive and stupid. And it always has been.

The idea that Alabama would get every kid is equally stupid. 1) there are scholarship limits; 2) they’re not getting all the kids now when it’s easier to sign a kid than flip a kid - especially once he’s started somewhere else.

No school should have the power to determine where a kid can aid or go to school.
Click to expand...

If it’s a moral issue to you, I get that. But It would have a big impact on the sport, and not one that improves parity by any means.
 
FlaSportsFan88 said:
Ya... and have Bama take every good player around the league every offseason.
Click to expand...

Highly unlikely this happens. Maybe a kid here and there but doesn't check out to me at any sort of scale. Most of the time kids who transfer are seeking playing time, which isn't easy at Alabama...unless you think they are going to stop signing the number one class every year. More likely benefits programs like West Virginia that are already heavily reliant upon the transfer market.

FlaSportsFan88 said:
If it’s a moral issue to you, I get that. But It would have a big impact on the sport, and not one that improves parity by any means.
Click to expand...

Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson are in the playoff pretty much every year currently. That's how college football works. There are always 8-10 teams with a realistic shot of making a run at the championship, and most of them are the same year in and year out.

I would actually argue the other way...this would break up the monopoly on talent these teams have a little bit. Right now, if you're a sophomore playing backup minutes at Alabama or Ohio State, you have a choice: ride it out and hope they don't recruit over the top of you next year OR transfer and sit out a year, which puts you one year further away from potentially turning pro and making money.

Or what if you're a pocket QB and your coach bails and gets replaced by a coach who wants a threat to run? Why should that kid have to sit out a year if he wants to go to a school with a coach that actually likes him?

Get rid of the one year penalty and you increase the flow of some of that high end talent to other programs.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
How’d you know. Natural leader. Captain of every sport I played...
Click to expand...

Real leaders don't typically have a need to call themselves natural leaders and point out to everyone how they were a team captain.

Self-promoting or validating is usually left for the weak minded, insecure type who is desperate for approval
 
If it’s immediate playing time the transfer wants they’ll need a team with roster openings. What immediate need do you see on the Alabama roster? Or Ohio State? Or Clemson? If a program is one of the usual top 5, top 10 they’re probably set most positions and have quality depth. I don’t see a tidal wave of college football free agency coming.
 
Advertisement
I think the rule is fair . Yeah it sucks for the player to have to sit but there has to be some type of deterrent for leaving your team . Otherwise sht would get out of control with how many players would be transferring . Would Jeff Thomas still be here ? Word was he was wavering last year and frustrated, I bet having to sit out a year factored into his decision to stay atleast another year and see how things go , which turned out to be the right decision .

At the least it makes teenagers think twice about before making a potentially life changing decision
 
Signing an LOI has to mean something. I don't think players should be allowed to void their end of that agreement on a whim. If you open that can of worms with zero consequences, the who LOI process becomes a meaningless formality. Players will start jumping ship mid season because they're not getting enough PT or their team sucks, and pimping themselves to teams who are still in contention. I don't disagree with requiring extenuating circumstances in order to be eligible immediately.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
If we’re going to call them student-athletes (and, IMO, we should) then the student-athletes scholarship shouldn’t hold any more restrictions than any other scholarship student - be it a math, music, etc scholarship. If a scholarship holder of any other department wanted to transfer their aid at their new school would not be held up...why should it be for an athlete?
Click to expand...
Because the NLOI is a commitment between the student and the NCAA to participate in college athletics. There is no governing body regulating music departments other than the university system itself setting standards.

I'm not totally disagreeing with you on this point. My point is that the student makes a commitment to participate and abide by the rules of the NCAA. I don't think this agreement should be voided lightly. Music students don't get kicked out for selling an autograph either.
 
You guys are missing one important point: If the rules change, the reasons for transfers change. While yes, with the current rules most players transfer for playing time, if the rule changes and anyone can transfer no questions asked and no time off, the reasons will also change.

Now Alabama and all the big schools can take all those under-the-radar recruits that went to no name schools and proved to be NFL prospects (ex. Carson Wentz, Khalil Mack, etc) and give them $200,000 and tell them they will be the starting QB of the Alabama Crimson Tide with national exposure. What do you think the majority of great players in a no name school would do?

As soon as a non-Power 5 school has a great player there will be plenty of coaches hitting him up and offering money to transfer, although in reality just telling them they are going to be on a power 5 team with national exposure is enough for most to transfer. Everything would change my friends, that's reality. Coaches, boosters, etc would find a way to secretly talk to these players and convince them to join their team. Some will stay, but a lot more would transfer.
 
Back
Top