how can you tell if the players quit?

Canezum5

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I'm amazed at how anyone can tell that the players are quitting.

We all know that the coaching is terrible.

So if the coaching is terrible that means the players aren't being put in the best position. If they aren't being put in the best position then how do we know if they quit?

I swear some of you guys just find any reason to take blame off of al golden.

In cfb its 70% coaching 30% players.


if a coach puts a linebacker at wr and he doesnt catch one pass. Half you dumass fans would be on here saying the player sucked and should have worked on his hands.


The truth is, none of us know if the players are quitting or not cuz the scheme sucks either way. Try your best = blown out. dont give a crap= blown out.
 
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I swear some of you guys have no reading comprehension.

Why am i being called blake?

Did you guys even read the **** post?
 
Are you saying 70% of the credit goes to coaching and 30% to the array of NFL talent? Is that you, Larry?
 
Body language and perceived effort says a lot.

If you played at some level of football, or even if you watch enough of it, you can tell when teams are going all out and when they're kind of going through the motions.
 
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No, they didn't read the post and to answer your question, it's tough as **** to tell if the players quit unless you're apart of the team. Even in the event players quit, it's never all of them, some people just don't quit. It's a popular statement by family, friends, and supporters in the all too popular blame game.

You want to know how fair and accurate most message board posters are, see how many times they give the other team / players credit. You rarely ever see that because it's not in most people's capacity to admit the other team is better in whatever way.

Final thing, most people won't read your post or mine, they're too long. Even if they read it, they'll pick out one part rather than dissecting it in its entirety. Most posters here just want to toss a name another's way, crack a joke, and can't formulate an arguement.
 
Yes, i am saying that.

goldens scheme and philosophy would have never won a ship with that 2001 team. Coker wasnt the best HC but he still had the schemes on both sides of the ball to put the players in a good enough position to win even if he wasnt the best "leader" of men.

In College football success is 70% on the coaches in my opinion.

Auburn was a 3 win team full of blue chip talent. Gus malzahn takes over and turns them from winless in the sec to championship game in ONE summer.

he didn't need to get 5 straight top 5 classes to compete. He won with what he had.

The players didnt coach and develop themselves.

So yes its quite evident on too many occasions that a good coach can win with not so good talent.... Do i have to name the many examples?
 
We've had far better talent than our record indicates under the last three coaches and where has that gotten them.

You can look at any recruiting ranking publication and see we've been the odds on favorite on paper talent wise to win the Coastal, but where has that gotten us?

Just this year, you have teams vying for the coveted four slots in TCU and Baylor. How is that? What do they look like on paper talent wise as it came out of high school?

How does a team in BFE Idaho kick *** and take names most of the past decade all the while doing it with hardly a 3* to be found on the roster?

People who say talent trumps coaching in college, they're fools. On rare occasions, talent can trump coaching, but it's far from the norm.

A pretty good coach with players who bought into what he was selling almost showed us that a decade and some change when our roster was full of NFL'ers. That team was BC and it took a fluke play from one of our all time greats in Ed Reed to preserve the victory.

Finally, with this bs scheme we employ, it's **** hard to tell who quit or didn't quit. You're already playing catchup from the snap, so I stand by what I said previously.
 
No, they didn't read the post and to answer your question, it's tough as **** to tell if the players quit unless you're apart of the team. Even in the event players quit, it's never all of them, some people just don't quit. It's a popular statement by family, friends, and supporters in the all too popular blame game.

You want to know how fair and accurate most message board posters are, see how many times they give the other team / players credit. You rarely ever see that because it's not in most people's capacity to admit the other team is better in whatever way.

Final thing, most people won't read your post or mine, they're too long. Even if they read it, they'll pick out one part rather than dissecting it in its entirety. Most posters here just want to toss a name another's way, crack a joke, and can't formulate an arguement.


Great post. Im seeing exactly what you said manifest in this thread. lol

It seems there is a small group of competent fans on here. im speaking to them.

And thats my point. Golden is terrible.

If the players try hard we lose.... if they dont we lose.

The players are in terrible schemes and have bad coaching... with that being said... how can people say the players quit?

How do you know they quit and its not just the normal outcoaching beatdown they usually get?

The answer is... we dont.

No one knows if the team quit cuz the coaching isnt good enough to show us.

But these idiots are too busy hating blake james to realize i was off the golden train back when nobody was off it.

i been off golden after i sat in the rain in baltimore and watch him get outcoached by randy edsall and his two win merryland team.
 
when they are fighting in the locker room after getting smashed by a sub-500 team for 2nd week in a row.
 
How often do you see them break the huddle and get to their position as quick as possible like they wanna kick someones ***. not very often
 
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Body language and perceived effort says a lot.

If you played at some level of football, or even if you watch enough of it, you can tell when teams are going all out and when they're kind of going through the motions.

This.

Watch the way we played in terms of effort during FSU, Duke, VTech, etc and then watch UVA and Pitt
 
Body language and perceived effort says a lot.

If you played at some level of football, or even if you watch enough of it, you can tell when teams are going all out and when they're kind of going through the motions.

This.

Watch the way we played in terms of effort during FSU, Duke, VTech, etc and then watch UVA and Pitt

**** it. how stupid is this?

for the 100th time. The coaches clearly employed a more aggrssive approach in that streak and went back to the crap against uva and pitt.


So how the **** can you gauge if they quit when the coaches put them right back in the crap *** scheme we used to get smashed by GT, louisville, and Nebrasky?

Pay attention.
 
When they start getting blown out by Pitt and UVA

NEGGED..... Coaches went back to the crap scheme against uva and pitt.

Doesnt show they quit. just shows what its shown since year 1. That scheme sucks.

How can you see if they quit in a suck scheme with suck plays?
 
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