How 30 for 30 pushed Miami's Al Golden onto the hot seat

DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.
 
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We have made some upgrades but we are still far away from others, we never ever had the best facilities but that never mattered because we always had good coaches and players, the BOT thought we can keep doing that but things have changed now kids want these amazing facilities, kids want these elaborate looking locker rooms and fields

, ive known kids that committed to schools because of their uniforms, and those schools were garbage, things have changed its a must to have all that i have mentioned and we are getting there but we still need the good coach to get us over that hump
 
lol at facilities issue. Like just shut the **** up already. Sure we aren't alabama, but they are more than fine even with the stupidity of no lights or indoor practice field. Want to know why?

guess what facility alabama, Ohio state, etc don't have (and any local replacement is laughable)?

miami beach. biscayne bay. The keys in general. 75 degrees in January.

Millions of of people move to inferior facilities (often called houses) than what they had before just to get access to those facilities that just can't be replicated anywhere at any cost.

Yeah a a crazy huge players lounge decked in gold is attractive to a recruit. But south beach, the grove, well, let's just call that a natural equalizer.

its about crap coaching and poor oversight and stewardship of the program from the administration. Everything else is a do you want cheese on your burger crap...
 
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Just bring Butch back, and the program can be turned around and moving towards being a force again. Proven track record, respected for accomplishments in SOFL, wants the job and will be reasonably priced.

Why is this so difficult to see hire Butch. #BBB
 
Facilities???


We have the best facilities most freshman players can hope for.... Mama's home cooking. If we can recruit within 50 miles of Miami, we don't need to worry about facilities.
 
DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.
 
miami beach. biscayne bay. The keys in general. 75 degrees in January.

The kids from Dade County don't care about that crap. Most of them can't afford to even know what they're missing. Why do you think the most loyal recruits are from OOS? Because they actually do care about that crap. SoFla kids want the BMOC experience. They want the NFL, and they don't want to sit behind anyone else along the way. They don't give a **** about the **** beach.
 
DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.

I said "A good coach is still the most important thing". I did not say "it's their facilities". Learn to read, dumbass.
 
DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.

I said "A good coach is still the most important thing". I did not say "it's their facilities". Learn to read, dumbass.
So Nick Saban could come in here with our current facilities and "gameday experience" and do what he would do, yet in your opinion, Miami would not be "back."

OK.
 
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DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.

I said "A good coach is still the most important thing". I did not say "it's their facilities". Learn to read, dumbass.
So Nick Saban could come in here with our current facilities and do what he would do, yet in your opinion, Miami would not be "back."

OK.

I said "A good coach is still the most important thing". And, no, I do not believe that Nick would be able to duplicate what he has done at Bama here...not on the same time scale anyway. It's a stupid comparison anyway, because we all know that Miami would never pay that kind of money for a coach. He would also have to win back Miami people for ****ting on the Fins. Got any other brilliance you'd like to share with the class, Gomer?
 
As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.

I said "A good coach is still the most important thing". I did not say "it's their facilities". Learn to read, dumbass.
So Nick Saban could come in here with our current facilities and do what he would do, yet in your opinion, Miami would not be "back."

OK.

I said "A good coach is still the most important thing". And, no, I do not believe that Nick would be able to duplicate what he has done at Bama here...not on the same time scale anyway. It's a stupid comparison anyway, because we all know that Miami would never pay that kind of money for a coach. He would also have to win back Miami people for ****ting on the Fins. Got any other brilliance you'd like to share with the class, Gomer?
OK.
 
DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.

Why are you arguing with a ******? This *** hat was on his knees slurping golden till the bitter end. He is obviously clueless as they come.
 
DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.

Why are you arguing with a ******? This *** hat was on his knees slurping golden till the bitter end. He is obviously clueless as they come.

It's funny how he now wants it to be about the facilities and gameday experience, rather than the coach. He truly believes people can't see through his bull**** because he includes the line "coaching is the most important" in a block of text about facilities and gameday experience.

Sebastian why do we have 25k, banners, etc. at our game days? Not because of the coach right?

Also, were you beating this drum when you believed that Golden just got it?
 
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Why did he call us Miami university lmfao
This is a horrible article , trying to get a few page clicks using UM's name and people's infatuation of seeing coaches fired ...

Al golden put himself on the hot seat by being a horrible coach
 
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Dude ohio st has amazing facilities and the area around the campus is a party area, the school sells itself, why do you think so many kids that OV there commit there

We are light years away from where some of these schools have, we are on the right track with the schwartz and the training tables and the the new athletic lunch hall, but other schools have had that for years but we are on te right track, we need to update the weight room and get a decent indoor, but to say we are just fine is stupid, we are on the right track but we are no where near these other schools
 
DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.

Why are you arguing with a ******? This *** hat was on his knees slurping golden till the bitter end. He is obviously clueless as they come.

It's funny how he now wants it to be about the facilities and gameday experience, rather than the coach. He truly believes people can't see through his bull**** because he includes the line "coaching is the most important" in a block of text about facilities and gameday experience.

Sebastian why do we have 25k, banners, etc. at our game days? Not because of the coach right?

Also, were you beating this drum when you believed that Golden just got it?

For the last time, so the kids on the short bus can finally get it....I said "A good coach is still the most important thing". AG is not a good coach.
 
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The truth is, Miami’s facilities are not great, its fan base is far below its chief competitors and its resources are not congruent with a program that sees itself as nationally relevant.

I just feel so much better.

And all of that was True throughout every single great team Miami has had

Yep. It's always been that way. but not this bad.

Stop making *** excuses for Folden. We've got dime rally nice facilities now. Brand new Schwartz Center, weights, etc. Best facility we have is a picturesque campus in the middle of a tropical paradise.

So yeah. A place like Nebraska has a better weight room, but the trade off is it's in the middle of Shytsville Nowhere in a frozen wasteland. Give me The Gables any day.

Our fan support is down because our team is a toilet. It's always been that way here, and it always will be. You want fan support? Win some fcking football games and put a product on the field that isn't a faqqoty embarrassment.
 
DFC said "Just ridiculous to me. The problem is solved by getting the right HC, nothing less will do."

That sums everything up. Losing the OB hurts bad but everything else is BS. We always had subpar facilities. But we took those fast aggressive local kids, filtered in good number of out of state kids where needed and made them all faster and meaner. How much did the old sand pits cost? JJ didn't have lights on practice field -- they practiced in the dark when JJ said they needed it. How much does it cost to have players fighting each other for spots. Kids want to win and get to NFL more than waterfalls and indoor practice building. Get the right coach and the opulence of our opposition can be turned to our advantage. These other teams are not harder than our old teams, just harder than today's team. Right coach(Butch) makes today's Canes hard like old Canes and we will see that Bama and FSU are just big and soft like the old NU and OU teams. Howard said all Miami ever needed was a coach.

As others have said, the landscape of college football has changed a lot since Howard said that. A good coach is still the most important thing, but today's college game requires more than that now. The money is too big, and so are the egos. These players today have to be coddled...they don't want to work for anything...the admins have to be PC about everything, and there are actually limits to what coaches can do (e.g., back in the day, it was OK to run players in triple digit heat until they collapsed, or send them back out onto the field after getting their bell rung). Yes, we need a good coach, but I don't personally believe that this program will ever be "back" until there's a legit "college gameday experience". Dade County kids are going to these SEC schools and seeing what a real college football experience is. They're treated like kings, and they can get away with rape, not going to class, and have boosters lining their pockets. Then they go on their OV to Miami and spend hours on a bus getting to the stadium, see 25k booing fans, banners flying overhead calling for the coach to be fired, and a **** poor product on the field. Dade County is a freaking dump, and I don't blame these kids at all for getting the **** out of town if they can.

Right, because I'm sure kids would be lining up to play in the SEC if they hadn't won the last 7 of 8 national championships. But yeah, it's their facilities.

Good observations, though. Schools back in the day didn't pay kids or have boosters. Kids didn't get away with crimes back then. New phenomenon.

Why are you arguing with a ******? This *** hat was on his knees slurping golden till the bitter end. He is obviously clueless as they come.

It's funny how he now wants it to be about the facilities and gameday experience, rather than the coach. He truly believes people can't see through his bull**** because he includes the line "coaching is the most important" in a block of text about facilities and gameday experience.

Sebastian why do we have 25k, banners, etc. at our game days? Not because of the coach right?

Also, were you beating this drum when you believed that Golden just got it?

Best solution for that *** hat.

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