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Cookie917 said:
Again, please post the source of these diagrams and again I am betting it is from an FSU site.

Also, take a **** offense, against a **** schedule, and making them better. Is this not the EXACT SAME ARGUMENT you just made for fans thinking Enos is better than he is? "there will be a lot of fans thinking he is great because of how abysmal our offense looked under Richt "

FAU 76th or 80th in total offense (depending on which metric you use) Pre Briles... Best win: Akron in the bowl game? Maybe? Old Dominion?They got toasted by Navy 42-19

Houston 65th or 70th in total offense (again depending on which metric you use) Pre briles... Best win: Arizona? Maybe? Navy? Got toasted by Army 70-14....

So in a year if I show you the same diagram with Enos improving Miami in essentially every metric does this catapult him into top 3 territory?
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FSU site or not, numbers don't lie. Enos making a horrible offense look good doesn't change the fact that Briles is the better OC. There is really no argument. Any Miami fan saying Enos is on the Briles/Riley level as an OC is not being objective.

You're saying that they went against a **** schedule but the same level of talent he had on his offense was the same level of talent of the opposing defense. U have to come with a better argument than that.
 
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D RevLee said:
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FSU site or not, numbers don't lie. Enos making a horrible offense look good doesn't change the fact that Briles is the better OC. There is really no argument. Any Miami fan saying Enos is on the Briles/Riley level as an OC is not being objective.

You're saying that they went against a **** schedule but the same level of talent he had on his offense was the same level of talent of the opposing defense. U have to come with a better argument than that.
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Why didn’t Saban snag him instead of Enos?
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
He had the #5 recruiting class before He left, they were 18th after He left.

And you may think that my job security comment is funny, but saying He would've fell flat on His face is hilarious considering He'd never fell flat on His face at His previous 2 stops before Oregon...and Phil Knight was practically begging Him to stay.
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He was at USF before that. Even Charlie Strong has job security there. It doesn’t matter where Oregon was in recruiting before Taggert left. They finished 18th. There’s no guarantee Taggart closes if he stays. He literally just lost a committed QB to Maryland right before signing day.
 
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FlaSportsFan88 said:
Why didn’t Saban snag him instead of Enos?
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I figured this lazy question would come sooner. There is this thing called PR and Briles comes equipped with a PR hit. Also, Saban likes to run a pro-spread scheme. That's not what Briles is known for. There are probably multiple reasons but that's just a couple.
 
D RevLee said:
I figured this lazy question would come sooner. There is this thing called PR and Briles comes equipped with a PR hit. Also, Saban likes to run a pro-spread scheme. That's not what Briles is known for. There are probably multiple reasons but that's just a couple.
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lmao at Bama or Saban caring about PR hits. Why does he like to run a pro-spead scheme? You think possibly he thinks that holds up better against elite defenses?
 
Gr8. said:
not sure but i recall him saying he'd suc off all his homies if he was a girl for a day...
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@linesniper yes I said it. That same unoriginal comment has been old for a while now but I like when ppl like y'all bring it up bc that tells me u have zero valid argument to make.
 
KevinCaneFace said:
He was at USF before that. Even Charlie Strong has job security there. It doesn’t matter where Oregon was in recruiting before Taggert left. They finished 18th. There’s no guarantee Taggart closes if he stays. He literally just lost a committed QB to Maryland right before signing day.
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In what would've been His 2nd recruiting class at Oregon in 18' He had 7 de-commitments, most of whom de-commited at around the time He was flirting with FSU...so it did matter where they were ranked prior to Him leaving.

As far as LeGendre is concerned, you can't lose a QB that was never committed, but He did lose Howell who was commited. Besides, LeGendre couldn't even qualify to get into UMD, He has to go JUCO.
 
D RevLee said:
I figured this lazy question would come sooner. There is this thing called PR and Briles comes equipped with a PR hit. Also, Saban likes to run a pro-spread scheme. That's not what Briles is known for. There are probably multiple reasons but that's just a couple.
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Two counters. 1. Yeah hiring a guy that just killed a kid was much less of a PR nightmare... and 2. You missed the point earlier
D RevLee said:
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FSU site or not, numbers don't lie. Enos making a horrible offense look good doesn't change the fact that Briles is the better OC. There is really no argument. Any Miami fan saying Enos is on the Briles/Riley level as an OC is not being objective.

You're saying that they went against a **** schedule but the same level of talent he had on his offense was the same level of talent of the opposing defense. U have to come with a better argument than that.
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Again why are you posting the same ish? He took bad offenses and made them better. The same thing you said if Enos does, makes him seem like a better OC than he is.

And of course numbers don't lie but they can always be used to fit a narrative.... Hey did you know Mark Richt has 171 wins to his name and Taggert is 52-57??? Makes MR better right? Numbers don't lie.... Take your elementary arguments and head back to the trailer park.
 
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Cookie917 said:
Two counters. 1. Yeah hiring a guy that just killed a kid was much less of a PR nightmare... and 2. You missed the point earlier

Again why are you posting the same ish? He took bad offenses and made them better. The same thing you said if Enos does, makes him seem like a better OC than he is.

And of course numbers don't lie but they can always be used to fit a narrative.... Hey did you know Mark Richt has 171 wins to his name and Taggert is 52-57??? Makes MR better right? Numbers don't lie.... Take your elementary arguments and head back to the trailer park.
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You're right, I totally forgot Richt walked into losing programs like WKU and USF. U got me there buddy.

U made zero arguments that Enos is on the level as Briles as an OC so stop moving your thumbs. Your points are irrelevant so run along and play now kiddo.
 
D RevLee said:
True. I only posted the graphs to show the improvement he brought to the offense year one with basically the same talent.

I'm a die hard Cane and I hope Manny runs the score up on FSU but I'm not going to act like FSU doesn't have the talent or coaching to be good this year.

They have the same question marks on their team as we do... O line and QB.
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Oh yea, the improvement is impressive and forgetting about the rape issue, id have been happy to see him here.

I think FSU has bigger problems than we do. We have QBs with talent on the roster, and will have a legitimate competition between potentially legit starters, with our without Tate. They don’t.

As far as the OL goes, I fully expect improvement from our Guys next season. First off, we have some young guys who shouidve grown into a roll after redshirting. I also fully expect to see a scheme that takes their strengths and weaknesses into consideration.. something we haven’t seen here lately. On top of that, and based on just seeing them standing up etc the last few years, I also suspect they weren’t getting coached up at all. That will change.

I haven’t watched FSU that much, but from what I did see, and and what I’ve read, I don’t think they have the personnel needed to expect much improvement. Also, I’m not sure scheming will help them as much as I expect it to help us, simply because I don’t think their O was run as poorly and simplistically as ours was last year... so I’m not sure how high their ceiling can be.
 
D RevLee said:
You're right, I totally forgot Richt walked into losing programs like WKU and USF. U got me there buddy.

U made zero arguments that Enos is on the level as Briles as an OC so stop moving your thumbs. Your points are irrelevant so run along and play now kiddo.
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What Enos did at Arkansas seems to be on par with what Briles did at fau and Houston, no? Also, what he did with his QBs has been impressive.

I don’t think Diaz shied away from Briles because of his scandal, either. My guess is that there’s something Enos does that Diaz specifically wanted. I’m willing to give him that.

There’s really no way to say which is the better hire until we see how the season plays out... but I’ll wear my homer glasses and crown Enos. Until he has to punt. Then I’ll be all for the banners.
 
D RevLee said:
(Law 15 in the 48 Laws of Power: Crush Your Enemy Totally)

The best OC hire in the P5 Florida programs was FSU, not Miami. Briles is one of the best, if not the best, OC's in CFB.

While I think Enos is a good hire, there will be a lot of fans thinking he is great because of how abysmal our offense looked under Richt, and that's okay because all we need is a good offense to compliment our great defense to make an elite team. Enos may be a top 15 OC but he is not top 3 like a Briles.

My point is, is that FSU is a sleeping giant just like Miami. Both teams are loaded with talent and have potential through the roof. I see a lot of ppl underestimating FSU and that's the worst thing u can do, especially underestimating a rival. U must crush your enemy totally. Never let up off their necks.

Go Canes 🙌🏼
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