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Highsmith to the U?

AtlAtty said:
It's not uncommon to have a sport specific person in some capacity below the AD.
As an example, Thad Matta is the assistant AD over basketball at Indiana. His role is not to tell the head coach what to do despite having been a successful head coach himself. Matta is there to only worry about basketball, whereas the AD has a lot more on his plate. Matta makes sure the basketball program has what it needs, and if it does not, will go to the AD to get the basketball team what it needs.

I'm confident Bama and OSU have someone in a similar role for football. This is all part of the support staff arms race currently occurring in college sports.
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This is true. And I could actually see someone in one of those positions especially if it’s a job responsibility that the A.D. doesn’t deal with on a day-to-day basis, or the coach doesn’t deal with on a day-to-day basis.

But from where I’m standing, I don’t think Allonzo wants something like that.

I get the sense he’s going to want independence and not having to be a direct report to an AD or a coach. And if he doesn’t accept this type of reporting structure , then that’s a problem.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t get the sense he just wants to be a support person.
 
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CaneinBroward said:
Every kid looking to leave early gets a draft evaluation. Why should we PAY for a guy to do that?

These kids were told over and over again the reality of their situations. Instead they chose to listen to the agents who were only looking for a buck. Alonzo won't keep that from happening.
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Come on, man, you think that's all Zo is going to do? Draft evals?

Zo could be talking to kids for 3 years, tempering expectations, letting them know what they need to do if they want to turn pro early. It's not just as simple as "one draft eval". Open up your mind a bit to the possibilities here.

I know for a fact that Ed Reed has had NUMEROUS conversations with kids about their "options", whether that is pro or portal.
 
Gi0logy said:
I was a sport management major and spent 3 years working in different sports organizations in Philadelphia 😂 I have several friends that work in athletic departments and also professional sports organizations.

Look, I am 100% on board with Zo being chief of staff or director of player personnel reporting directly into the HC. Him supporting with recruiting and transfer portal responsibilities is totally up his alley and I think he would crush it. But I view that as a support staff role. Not an admin role reporting into AD.

And I would want the HC to hire Zo. Not the board. If there’s no AD in place I’m not sure why we’d rush to hire Zo.
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... and with your three years experience nobody gives a **** what you are on board with.

I have no idea why this concept is so hard for you and a few others to accept. Just b/c typical athletic departments historically have been run a certain way doesn't mean that in 10 years a majority of P5 programs won't have a GM-like position for each major revenue producing sport. Businesses evolve and management structures change.
 
I dont get why some are hung up ok this oh, you need only one AD stuff. What exactly has that gotten us in 20 years, nothing. Also this is something thats not new in college football. I welcome the idea of someone only job is to oversee the football program. We meticulous planning, detailed oriented oversight. Not just about hiring the coach, but some of these coaches are not without blame. Are the coaches holding the players accountable. Are they sleeping enough, are the staying to their nutrition goal, are they studying the playbooks enough, as a team. Are they doing unorganized practice when the coaches are not supposed to be there. All these things are stuff i don't think we have been upholding. We have coaches who wanna be cool more than **** people off and win.
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
?... Crap since he left? Because Jurich hasn't been there since October 2017.

His last full year there:

The football team went 9-4, 7-1 in conference, including a 63-20 win over FSU.

The basketball team was a 25 win 2 seed.

The baseball team finished 50-14.
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Pitino was a top 5-10 basketball coach and McDonnell is a top 3 baseball coach. Imagine what he could do with a serious football program.
 
People have to stop thinking of Zo as just an ex-player at the U

The guy has been in the business(key word, here) of pro football for a good quarter century. And has worked his way up the ladder. He's paid his dues.

Highsmith has seen just about every major program up close, he has some real ideas and concepts he'd like to implement. This isn't just about some guy cheerleading from the sideline during games and flashing his title ring. He knows this is big business and an arms race.

That's all I'll say about that...

But it' clear, Miami is now making the move into playing 'big time' college football. I cant wait.
 
k9cane said:
People have to stop thinking of Zo as just an ex-player at the U

The guy has been in the business(key word, here) of pro football for a good quarter century. And has worked his way up the ladder. He's paid his dues.

Highsmith has seen just about every major program up close, he has some real ideas and concepts he'd like to implement. This isn't just about some guy cheerleading from the sideline during games and flashing his title ring. He knows this is big business and an arms race.

That's all I'll say about that...

But it' clear, Miami is now making the move into playing 'big time' college football. I cant wait.
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If Miami is operating like this message board is implying Miami is operating then Miami is doing it *** backwards. How you do things matter. IF the incoming AD believes Mario is the best choice he should hire him. IF the AD and Mario believe a head of football ops position is warranted they should create one. IF they think Highsmith is the best person for the job and he wants it they should hire him.

Instead people who have no background in hiring football coaches or know the first thing about running successful athletic programs are making these moves and getting a man more qualified than they'll ever be to go along with it apparently. That could all be wrong. I'm just going by what is written here. And this all comes with the caveat that Jurich may very well actually come in with complete autonomy and do what he wants from the jump. I would hope so.

And it is funny to me that incompetence of the BOT is now just being washed away because a different part of that group is making moves that people here approve of. When they actually can be just as incompetent as past headliners.
 
fincane said:
If Miami is operating like this message board is implying Miami is operating then Miami is doing it *** backwards. How you do things matter. IF the incoming AD believes Mario is the best choice he should hire him. IF the AD and Mario believe a head of football OPs position is warranted they should create one. IF they think Highsmith is the best person for the job and he wants it they should hire him.

Instead people who have no background in hiring football coaches or know the first thing about running successful athletic programs are making these moves and getting a man more qualified than they'll ever be to go along with it apparently. That could all be wrong. I'm just going by what is written here. And this all comes with the caveat that Jurich may very well actually come in with complete autonomy and do what he wants from the jump. I would hope so.

And it is funny to me that incompetence of the BOT is now just being washed away because a different part of that group is making moves that people here approve of. When they actually can be just as incompetent as past headliners.
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Mario should not be the one talking about no Football operations guy with the AD. The AD and the football operations guy should be talking about if Mario is the right guy. The stuff u talking about is what we have with Ed Reed. No thank you. The AD job is for all sports. Alot of them look good because they have unlimited money to get the best everything. Miami Football program needs special attention.
 
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Gi0logy said:
I was a sport management major and spent 3 years working in different sports organizations in Philadelphia 😂 I have several friends that work in athletic departments and also professional sports organizations.

Look, I am 100% on board with Zo being chief of staff or director of player personnel reporting directly into the HC. Him supporting with recruiting and transfer portal responsibilities is totally up his alley and I think he would crush it. But I view that as a support staff role. Not an admin role reporting into AD.

And I would want the HC to hire Zo. Not the board. If there’s no AD in place I’m not sure why we’d rush to hire Zo.
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Which pro teams in Philly did you work with?
 
AlexCane said:
I think you're making it more than what it is.

Let's assume--because again, we don't know--that Alonzo's role is that of a general manager of sorts. Let's assume he is heavily involved in scouting. He implements culture. He is there day in, day out and meets regularly with HC concerning players, transfer market, scout, scheme, personnel, etc. If he (or anyone in that position) reports to the AD, why would that threaten an AD? An AD isn't capable to do those things, nor does an AD have the time to be around the football team 24/7. If there is a very clear job description put in place that the "GM" (Alonzo) reports to the AD, I don't see why that would be a problem. Quite frankly, if I'm the AD, I'd be excited with bringing a pro structure to college and maybe starting a new trend.

I think where there may be conflict is between GM and HC, which we see all the time in pro sports. That to me is far, far more of an issue than between GM and AD.
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Missed this convo but the Big time teams have a guy like that, Bama and clemson.. Heck Clemson tooks bamas guy and named him Director of recruiting and external affairs, Thad Turnipseed. He does everything for Clemson even helped design their new facilities, there have been articles on him and his role.

Couple from a few years ago:


https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor.../?hootPostID=5f6cc6da23b191ba216d9f29c3e3d6f5


https://slate.com/culture/2019/09/thad-turnipseed-clemson-dabo-swinney.html
 
Brooklyndee said:
This guy is such a clown with his tweets and everybody just jumps on board. Lol. He's AWFULLY late to that party...
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Regardless of what folks think about Streeter he is credentialed. He called Blake being fired days before anyone did and was the only one with the balls to say it and make it public. I don't like how he goes about some things but he knows or is paying someone for info.
 
ssvir said:
You're exactly right.

Not one of the 32 coaches in the NFL wants the job
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k9cane said:
People have to stop thinking of Zo as just an ex-player at the U

The guy has been in the business(key word, here) of pro football for a good quarter century. And has worked his way up the ladder. He's paid his dues.

Highsmith has seen just about every major program up close, he has some real ideas and concepts he'd like to implement. This isn't just about some guy cheerleading from the sideline during games and flashing his title ring. He knows this is big business and an arms race.

That's all I'll say about that...

But it' clear, Miami is now making the move into playing 'big time' college football. I cant wait.
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Exactly. He know what the elite looks like in the football operations aspect
 
I don't understand why some on this board don't understand that multiple conversations with AD candidates, Alonzo and Mario/Kiffin can be happening at the same time. It's pretty clear - or it should be by now- that this entire process has been playing out for at least a month.

It's also clear that Frenk's designated admin people are working in conjunction with the "Columbus group" in putting this together. I don't know much about Jurich- should he be the appointed AD - beyond what I've read the past couple of days. But he's been described as a guy with endless contacts, tremendous energy and incredible drive to succeed. I just don't see why he'd have a problem with an innovative structure within the athletics department. I doubt anything is being "forced on him." He doesn't have to take the job if he isn't comfortable with the proposed structure. For all any of us know Jurich and Highsmith may have already hashed it out with each other and the University Admin/Columbus group to be sure everyone is on the same page and believe in the process going forward. Since Cristobal is the primary HC target, he has likely also been apprised of the proposed structure. I really doubt this is going on in a vacuum.

Don't get caught up in titles. What's important ultimately is the right people are in the right positions to finally bring the Canes back to relevance.
 
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TipDrill said:
Regardless of what folks think about Streeter he is credentialed. He called Blake being fired days before he did and was the only one with the balls to say it and make it public. I don't like how he goes about some things but he knows or is paying someone for info.
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Most don’t who he is And the fact he knows guys who are on staff in the building even before they got to Miami And he ask the best questions without a doubt during the week and post game. These dudes from caneville probably cover this team better than most the guys who been doing it for year ..**** he knows some of these players from park days etc..he ain’t just putting **** out
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
I don't understand why some on this board don't understand that multiple conversations with AD candidates, Alonzo and Mario/Kiffin can be happening at the same time. It's pretty clear - or it should be by now- that this entire process has been playing out for at least a month.

It's also clear that Frenk's designated admin people are working in conjunction with the "Columbus group" in putting this together. I don't know much about Jurich- should he be the appointed AD - beyond what I've read the past couple of days. But he's been described as a guy with endless contacts, tremendous energy and incredible drive to succeed. I just don't see why he'd have a problem with an innovative structure within the athletics department. I doubt anything is being "forced on him." He doesn't have to take the job if he isn't comfortable with the proposed structure. For all any of us know Jurich and Highsmith may have already hashed it out with each other and the University Admin/Columbus group to be sure everyone is on the same page and believe in the process going forward. Since Cristobal is the primary HC target, he has likely also been apprised of the proposed structure. I really doubt this is going on in a vacuum.

Don't get caught up in titles. What's important ultimately is the right people are in the right positions to finally bring the Canes back to relevance.
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There’s no question Blake was quieted and sent away after the **** he pulled right before the NC State game
 
rvalenza said:
There’s a Philly video out there somewhere You Just got Burrelled! Basically, you better hide your girlfriend, sister, and mom or they’ll get Burrelled.
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Remember this well. We used to laugh with him on this
 
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