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The fact of the matter is that NFL-U is not just UM players balling in the League of yesterday and today. NFL-U starts the day ballas are enrolled in at the University of Miami. The environment reeks of current enrollees with NFL aspirations, and of actual NFL-U ballas returning to work out & train at UM, which in turn does nothing but inspire enrolled canes. Say what you hate about Swazey, but dude has turned out players after players that are faster and stronger when leaving UM than when originally enrolled. An average 2-3* stars player can bust **** all four years at UM and grind himself into an NFL roster when he clearly was not that 1% of that hundred thousand or so incoming players in college ball.
Al Golden added to the Swazey mix of speed training that sheer muscle power and strength training to the point that an Erick Flowers can leave UM after his Junior year as the strongest rookie coming into the League. Phillip Dorsett came in at 169 lbs as a 3* not even the best receiver on his HS team who was not trusted to not drop passes, but left UM not only quicker and faster but super strong at 195 lbs of muscle mass catching everything on his way out and into his NFL camp. This is after Dorsett added serious pure muscle mass nurtured by Golden-brought muscle milk, and the freaking raw cows devoured in the training tables at UM. Duke Johnson came in as a quick puny 167 lbs Norland HS inner city Miami athlete and left a mere 3 years later as an imposing extra 41 lbs muscles mass bigger athlete fueled with a quicker and faster sub 4.44/40 speed. Under Shannon Jacory had to gain again out at his pancakes parlor, and didn't real weight until his last year, which was too late too fast and not good weight.
Hate Golden all you want for his mediocre product on the college field, and hate his predecessor for the same, but UM is the ultimate destination for those hardest working and inspired 3* star recruits desirous of making it to the League, bar none. Whereas in other powerhouse programs, such players eventually settled and just happy to get that degree only; not a bad outcome.
With Golden's arrival to the U and implementing his S & C program (Swazey+ on steroids, lol) with enriched nutrition leading to a more than adequate and supportive diet, UM has returned to producing NFL ready players that are now the marvel of the media. A media marveling at a freak phenomenon where you can't win but six games, while leading nine (9) of your ex-players to the initial 53-man 2015 rosters… with a couple more on practice squads, and another half dozen of players surviving on NFL rosters all the way to the very last and final cut.
Essentially, one can't help it but realize that the current version of this Golden UM has turned UM virtually into an economical but very productive, fertile, and most effective, farm system for the NFL. The NFL product of that human UM player may not be made effective on the college field by these current coaches, but this UM player is made inherently prepared for an effective transition to an NFL roster and its playing field.
We can certainly explain away Golden & crew with over teaching players and not being the best of instructors -- mostly because players did not trust what Golden & D'Ono were teaching [or simply put, not buying] them [including some actual stupid schemes] -- in getting players to apply themselves from the training/knowledge taught them for the college game. Indeed, look at the resumés of UM coaches and you will see that many of these guys have had impressive stops coaching & working with some of the best minds in Football, and some even winning Super Bowl as coach. Thus, we can extrapolate beyond a margin of error that these coaches are quite knowledgeable of the game of Football, even as they…
But knowing Trigonometry and being able to teach it to a lower level High School** kid (here for college kid & less mature learner) as opposed to being taught Trigonometry to a higher level and more mature kid at college** (actually here as the new NFL kid & now seasoned learner) are two different enterprises. The former's top teachers (UM coaches) have never won shlt in their careers (when they go vs winners), while the latter are being taught by the best and most respected minds in the field, and thus are actually trusted by the kid [learner].
Nonetheless, if not for the learning/training at UM, do you all really think that players like Randy Phillips and Stephen Morris would have made it on NFL rosters? This is particular so considering that these two guys weren't the best athlete nor accurate passer, respectively, and did not set the college playing field on fire. Our NFL-U players were taught [trained & coached] here well into the Trigonometry of Football, but just couldn't apply themselves with these teachings on the UM college field. Side note: It's funny that we tried Brad Kaaya with a spread offense that is productive in college but does not prepare players optimally for the NFL, so is it that UM coaches are being selfish to win today for UM, and not worry later for the players' prospective NFL transition and future football careers? Knowledge and training not applied is still knowledge and comprehension to the kid, and the learning is still secured in the kid. UM coaches just couldn't pull out of their players that knowledge and training they provided to the now-NFL players in their UM days onto the field. I think they will pull it this year, but that's for another subject another day.
As a matter of fact as far as the rankings went during the Shannon/Golden era, our UM 5-star ranked players have ALL logged in time in real NFL games and made it to the league, regardless whether there were (or were not) All-Americans at the U, i.e, Ray Ray Armstrong, Arthur Brown, Kenneth Phillips, Greg Olsen, Duke Johnson, Anthony Chickillo*, Marcus Forston (should have stayed one more year at the U but didn't, yet still logged in NFL time as back-up to All-Pro NT Vince Wilfork), Devin Hester, Seantrel Henderson. So you can't say that the ranking for these players were inaccurate. Now compare UM 5* to other college teams' 5* and you'd find that these 5* star players are not infrequently the waste land for huge college unfulfilled egos that never made it to the League. That U trend shall continue for Tracy Howard in NFL-U, if not injured, a la Graig Cooper. You've got to credit Shannon since he's got a chunk of that 37 in the league, and most certainly Al Golden for marshaling the current environment & farm system producing the aforementioned phenomena; one which produces multiple 1st draft talents worthy of NFL performance.
With the rankings and recruits enrolling in as 2-3*, they were right what they were. Were they already future NFL guys coming in? No. Or did they become NFL materials after going through the U Football system chiefly because of Golden and the U system he implements? How did the 2-3* fared under Coker & Shannon, or under Saban or Meyer in making a transition to the League, if at all? Golden numbers with that group are the best in America!
Personally I hate Golden for all of his underwhelming product on the UM playing field just as many others do, but does this hate cloud us to discredit Golden and his coaches for what they instill and teach the average skilled football recruits coming in that lead them to lodge onto NFL rosters? Did they turn into NFL roster members by some magical internal organism unique to each individual new member of the NFL-U 2015 version? Talent is born, but performance comes through training and learning, as in that eventual performance essential for membership into the NFL.
I mean, just look at these non-4&5* players in their actual NFL positions when brought and enrolled at UM: Thurston Armbrister(unranked), Stephen Morris, Denzel Perryman, Sam Shields (changed positions), Mike James, Ladarius Gunter, Richard Gordon(changed positions), Clive Walford, Ray Ray Armstrong(changed positions), Allen Hurns, Leonard Hankerson, Chase Ford, Phillip Dorsett, Jon Feliciano, Asante Cleveland, Darryl Sharpton, etc... These were not high recruits coming in at the eventual positions they're playing now in the NFL, they were zero stars or 2-3* recruits.
But once into the Hurricanes den of the training room and practice field, the coaches, trainers, and current nutritionists provided our athletes the inherent environment most conducive to nurture their aspiration to optimally grind to the utmost and ultimately to fulfill that universal dream that so many crave but rarely reach: The League! ..or NFL-U.
Al Golden added to the Swazey mix of speed training that sheer muscle power and strength training to the point that an Erick Flowers can leave UM after his Junior year as the strongest rookie coming into the League. Phillip Dorsett came in at 169 lbs as a 3* not even the best receiver on his HS team who was not trusted to not drop passes, but left UM not only quicker and faster but super strong at 195 lbs of muscle mass catching everything on his way out and into his NFL camp. This is after Dorsett added serious pure muscle mass nurtured by Golden-brought muscle milk, and the freaking raw cows devoured in the training tables at UM. Duke Johnson came in as a quick puny 167 lbs Norland HS inner city Miami athlete and left a mere 3 years later as an imposing extra 41 lbs muscles mass bigger athlete fueled with a quicker and faster sub 4.44/40 speed. Under Shannon Jacory had to gain again out at his pancakes parlor, and didn't real weight until his last year, which was too late too fast and not good weight.
Hate Golden all you want for his mediocre product on the college field, and hate his predecessor for the same, but UM is the ultimate destination for those hardest working and inspired 3* star recruits desirous of making it to the League, bar none. Whereas in other powerhouse programs, such players eventually settled and just happy to get that degree only; not a bad outcome.
With Golden's arrival to the U and implementing his S & C program (Swazey+ on steroids, lol) with enriched nutrition leading to a more than adequate and supportive diet, UM has returned to producing NFL ready players that are now the marvel of the media. A media marveling at a freak phenomenon where you can't win but six games, while leading nine (9) of your ex-players to the initial 53-man 2015 rosters… with a couple more on practice squads, and another half dozen of players surviving on NFL rosters all the way to the very last and final cut.
Essentially, one can't help it but realize that the current version of this Golden UM has turned UM virtually into an economical but very productive, fertile, and most effective, farm system for the NFL. The NFL product of that human UM player may not be made effective on the college field by these current coaches, but this UM player is made inherently prepared for an effective transition to an NFL roster and its playing field.
We can certainly explain away Golden & crew with over teaching players and not being the best of instructors -- mostly because players did not trust what Golden & D'Ono were teaching [or simply put, not buying] them [including some actual stupid schemes] -- in getting players to apply themselves from the training/knowledge taught them for the college game. Indeed, look at the resumés of UM coaches and you will see that many of these guys have had impressive stops coaching & working with some of the best minds in Football, and some even winning Super Bowl as coach. Thus, we can extrapolate beyond a margin of error that these coaches are quite knowledgeable of the game of Football, even as they…
But knowing Trigonometry and being able to teach it to a lower level High School** kid (here for college kid & less mature learner) as opposed to being taught Trigonometry to a higher level and more mature kid at college** (actually here as the new NFL kid & now seasoned learner) are two different enterprises. The former's top teachers (UM coaches) have never won shlt in their careers (when they go vs winners), while the latter are being taught by the best and most respected minds in the field, and thus are actually trusted by the kid [learner].
Nonetheless, if not for the learning/training at UM, do you all really think that players like Randy Phillips and Stephen Morris would have made it on NFL rosters? This is particular so considering that these two guys weren't the best athlete nor accurate passer, respectively, and did not set the college playing field on fire. Our NFL-U players were taught [trained & coached] here well into the Trigonometry of Football, but just couldn't apply themselves with these teachings on the UM college field. Side note: It's funny that we tried Brad Kaaya with a spread offense that is productive in college but does not prepare players optimally for the NFL, so is it that UM coaches are being selfish to win today for UM, and not worry later for the players' prospective NFL transition and future football careers? Knowledge and training not applied is still knowledge and comprehension to the kid, and the learning is still secured in the kid. UM coaches just couldn't pull out of their players that knowledge and training they provided to the now-NFL players in their UM days onto the field. I think they will pull it this year, but that's for another subject another day.
As a matter of fact as far as the rankings went during the Shannon/Golden era, our UM 5-star ranked players have ALL logged in time in real NFL games and made it to the league, regardless whether there were (or were not) All-Americans at the U, i.e, Ray Ray Armstrong, Arthur Brown, Kenneth Phillips, Greg Olsen, Duke Johnson, Anthony Chickillo*, Marcus Forston (should have stayed one more year at the U but didn't, yet still logged in NFL time as back-up to All-Pro NT Vince Wilfork), Devin Hester, Seantrel Henderson. So you can't say that the ranking for these players were inaccurate. Now compare UM 5* to other college teams' 5* and you'd find that these 5* star players are not infrequently the waste land for huge college unfulfilled egos that never made it to the League. That U trend shall continue for Tracy Howard in NFL-U, if not injured, a la Graig Cooper. You've got to credit Shannon since he's got a chunk of that 37 in the league, and most certainly Al Golden for marshaling the current environment & farm system producing the aforementioned phenomena; one which produces multiple 1st draft talents worthy of NFL performance.
With the rankings and recruits enrolling in as 2-3*, they were right what they were. Were they already future NFL guys coming in? No. Or did they become NFL materials after going through the U Football system chiefly because of Golden and the U system he implements? How did the 2-3* fared under Coker & Shannon, or under Saban or Meyer in making a transition to the League, if at all? Golden numbers with that group are the best in America!
Personally I hate Golden for all of his underwhelming product on the UM playing field just as many others do, but does this hate cloud us to discredit Golden and his coaches for what they instill and teach the average skilled football recruits coming in that lead them to lodge onto NFL rosters? Did they turn into NFL roster members by some magical internal organism unique to each individual new member of the NFL-U 2015 version? Talent is born, but performance comes through training and learning, as in that eventual performance essential for membership into the NFL.
I mean, just look at these non-4&5* players in their actual NFL positions when brought and enrolled at UM: Thurston Armbrister(unranked), Stephen Morris, Denzel Perryman, Sam Shields (changed positions), Mike James, Ladarius Gunter, Richard Gordon(changed positions), Clive Walford, Ray Ray Armstrong(changed positions), Allen Hurns, Leonard Hankerson, Chase Ford, Phillip Dorsett, Jon Feliciano, Asante Cleveland, Darryl Sharpton, etc... These were not high recruits coming in at the eventual positions they're playing now in the NFL, they were zero stars or 2-3* recruits.
But once into the Hurricanes den of the training room and practice field, the coaches, trainers, and current nutritionists provided our athletes the inherent environment most conducive to nurture their aspiration to optimally grind to the utmost and ultimately to fulfill that universal dream that so many crave but rarely reach: The League! ..or NFL-U.
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Didn't stop everyone from coming down here and pillaging all the blue-chip talent in the 2015 signing class.
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you can say that all you want but if you aint winning you aint getting recruits period
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Not a ******* word about Butch Davis?
Fvck off.
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That recruiting tool can't overcome this recruiting tool:
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In summary, Miami gets good athletes regardless of HC. Howard always said the only thing keeping Miami form winning NC was coaching. Before you anoint Al, please remember that The Stork was probably the greatest even Cane and one of our NFL HOF guys. My point is that with crappy coaches Miami has always put players in NFL. With Butch, we OWNED the NFL, so take this crap about giving Al created to PSU.
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U can get recruits and not win because of subpar coaching. Gotta get the players in the best positions to be successful
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yea you can get 2-3 but thats not enough to win, look at the teams at the top of every recruiting class, those are the ones that in the top 10 at the end of the year
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The worst recruiting tool? Going 4-7 against FBS teams last year with the talent we had.
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The current seniors at university of texas was the number one class and you saw how they looked
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Butch Davis.
But that's a close second, and Butch can also point out how many HE put in the NFL.
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