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SFbayCane said:
I'm going to restate my prediction from a month ago. The Final poll will be:

#7: Notre Dame
#10: Miami

These two teams will face each other in the first round of the playoff AT Notre Dame.


Ole Miss will get FSU'd. There's a reason why the ESPN mouth pieces were imploring Ole Miss to allow Lane Kiffin to coach in the playoff game. They know the committee will have to drop them if he doesn't.
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My brother, they moved Ole Miss UP…
 
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DubCaliCane said:
If the committee was “setting it up,” to give us a chance, to me, they would have put us at #11 and ND at #10 THIS week.
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They can't put out a ranking with us 1 spot behind ND though. It's too absurd even for this clown car of a commitee, since we beat them and we have the same record. They know this. They haven't put out such a ranking and they never will.

We need TTU and Bama to win. TTU loses; we are obviously screwed. If Bama loses, they will move them back behind ND and a buffer will remain between us and ND. The nonsense that the H2H not the most important thing will persist. If TTU and Bama win they will rank us ahead of ND for the last spot, or I will eat my hat.

If you look at our betting odds they got worse, because by moving Bama up (they're now -1500 to get in on fanfuel) the committee confirmed we have a single path to get in the playoff - get ranked ahead of ND - and we need two contingent outcomes to break our way (TTU wins, Bama wins) before the committee would rank us ahead of ND.

EDIT: forgot to add that there is one other possible way we could get in, and it's horrendous: if TTU wins & UGA beats Bama & Ty Simpson breaks his leg or something that's the only scenario in which Bama gets left out. Otherwise, it's free money to bet Bama yes at 90c on Kalshi right now
 
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DubCaliCane said:
Us still being behind BYU was the nail in the coffin for me.

We beat a ranked, common ND opponent on the road by 31 points and BYU struggled with a non-bowl eligible UCF at home.

If the committee was “setting it up,” to give us a chance, to me, they would have put us at #11 and ND at #10 THIS week.

That way, the BYU-TTU would have become a play-in game for BYU, and going INTO the final rankings, the committee would have to deal with #11 Miami and #10 ND from the jump, should BYU fall.

What they did this week was weaponize BYU in the #11 spot. They used them as a chess piece to protect the king.

Now, BYU can lose and the committee can go INTO the final rankings and say “well, BYU is out so we can move them down to #12 and Miami up to #11.”

Some people are interpreting this is as two-step process that the committee is setting up to get us in, but it isn’t. It’s the opposite, because they’ve opened up the scenarios where they can insulate themselves, imo.

If BYU loses and Bama wins, the committee gets to “move up” Miami to #11 but KEEP ND at #10. If BYU AND Bama lose, now they can swap ND to #9 and Bama to #10 and move us up to #11 and they don’t need to put us in over Bama because Bama lost in the SECCG and they set the precedent this week with Texas that an SEC team with “good wins” will be ranked above two loss teams.

Even MORE despicably, they’ve also “set up” the SMU out. Yuracheck said when asked by Davis that the conference championship loser “wasn’t necessarily in,” but that’s a total non-answer. The committee backed themselves into a corner last year and they avoided it this year, BUT still gave themselves the option.

For example, if BYU loses a close game to TTU, the committee could be ****ing bold as to say “BYU is a 2 loss team with their second loss coming in the conference championship to a champion that earned a bye. We are keeping them at #11.” In this scenario, they don’t reward Miami, they just elect not to punish BYU as harshly because their loss came in a CG, so BYU doesn’t “technically” get “punished” for losing, but they still don’t make the playoffs. Then can point to last year and the fact that BYU, in totality, is strong enough to stay at #11 cuz everyone else was idle.

So with a bad BYU loss, the committee gets to “reward us” with a rise to #11, but then we get kicked out by the auto-bids. With a bad BYU loss and a Bama loss, we get to move up, but they can keep ND and Bama in by swapping them. With a good BYU loss, no one moves. And (in their nightmare scenario) BYU AND Bama win, and they have to kick out ND, as well as us.

By KEEPING BYU between us and Notre Dame, the committee has set up a place where they can plausibly “run out the clock.”

TL;DR — the committee has strategically used BYU to create multiple avenues for them to “reward us” us with #11 and keep ND at #10, and say “well, if there was another week, we would have gone into that room next Tuesday and compared #11 Miami to #10 ND, but this was the final ranking and Miami is out due to the auto-bids and potentially a team from the conference they couldn’t win”.
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Ok maybe I’m naive but the commissioner saying on camera that teams can move up while idle this week left the door open at least..to be clear I think it’s VERY slim that we get in even if BYU gets blown out but they’ll have no choice but to directly address the H2H between us n ND at least even if they don’t put us in, in that scenario I expect that the backlash would be so loud that the result will at least force them to change their approach in the future or simply expand the playoff.
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
Ok maybe I’m naive but the commissioner saying on camera that teams can move up while idle this week left the door open at least..to be clear I think it’s VERY slim that we get in even if BYU gets blown out but they’ll have no choice but to directly address the H2H between us n ND at least even if they don’t put us in, in that scenario I expect that the backlash would be so loud that the result will at least force them to change their approach in the future or simply expand the playoff.
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I was shocked to hear it lol
so many people said they said the opposite before and CG losers couldn't move, they swore they heard it, while never actually hearing it.
 
tdjones34 said:
I was shocked to hear it lol
so many people said they said the opposite before and CG losers couldn't move, they swore they heard it, while never actually hearing it.
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Yep I asked multiple posters if that was the case last year n got 0 responses despite ppl swearing up n down that the seeding is set in stone tonight regardless of what happens in Conference championship results lol smh 🤦🏾‍♂️
 
Alex_Dynamix said:
Yep I asked multiple posters if that was the case last year n got 0 responses despite ppl swearing up n down that the seeding is set in stone tonight regardless of what happens in Conference championship results lol smh 🤦🏾‍♂️
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The “idle movement” was for Notre Dame jumping to #9 and us jumping to #11.

They said that part with the BYU spot, imo.
 
cookies said:
If this is the path of hopium canes fans are taking; id advise you to add north Texas winning over Tulane to your mix. Only loss is to USF who we smashed. Tulane beat Duke; and JMU lost to Louisville by two touchdowns; so prob best if JMU loses as well.
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Canes football relying on Duke and JMU for help is just sad.
 
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1:30am and just sitting here fuming at them praising THIS performance against a 5-7 football team.

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RVACane said:
There’s no logic to it. It looks predetermined.
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Oh, of course it is. But to go on television and say that **** is just a slap in the face to anyone that actually gives a **** about the sport.

I haven’t watched a second of one of those ranking release shows and genuinely thought it was parody when I saw it on Twitter before seeing the video.
 
RVACane said:
Canes football relying on Duke and JMU for help is just sad.
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Makes me depressed it’s gotten to this point. Five ****** SEC teams in the top 9; 7 in the top 14.

Such a pathetic display of corruption going on. Im not even sure if these committee members even meet. Have a dumb**** SEC AD who fired his coach this season and whose fanbase hates him chairing the whole thing after the original bafoon lost his cushy 6-7 figure job because their TE wore a different colored undershirt than the rest of the team.

This nightmare just gets worse and worse.
 
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cookies said:
Makes me depressed it’s gotten to this point. Five ****** SEC teams in the top 9; 7 in the top 14.

Such a pathetic display of corruption going on. Im not even such these committee members even meet. Have a dumb**** SEC AD who fired his coach this season and whose fanbase hates him chairing the whole thing after the original bafoon lost his cushy 6-7 figure job because their TE wore a different colored undershirt than the rest of the team.

This nightmare just gets worse and worse.
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people are so dumb, they just can't see the pure corruption going on
 
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This comment from David Hale is enlightening, especially in regards to NDs supposed "impressive" run after their two losses:

But let's keep going. Miami's two losses -- SMU and Louisville -- would rank as the fourth- and fifth-toughest games on Notre Dame's schedule, had the Irish played them. Instead, Notre Dame has cruised through an essentially listless slate. Six of Notre Dame's 10 wins came against teams that beat zero or one other Power 4 opponent. Stanford -- seriously, Stanford! -- is Notre Dame's fourth-best win (by record). Yes, Notre Dame played well enough in losses to two very good teams, but one of those teams has the same record and is somehow ranked lower! Even if this is strictly about the "eye test," there's little argument for ignoring the head-to-head outcome. Notre Dame's strength of record is 13th. Miami's is 14th. Notre Dame's game control is fifth. Miami's is sixth. If all else is the same, how is head-to-head not the deciding factor?
 
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