- Feb 4, 2013
You seem to understand the NBA which is rare to see on here lol.When you have 100m+ a year for the next 4 years committed to your three best players (and you’ve already traded one of your possible 3 first round picks to trade), thybulle, maxey and multiple picks is a la la land request for kyle lowry IMO. We don’t know the exact requests obviously.
That’s not too far off from what Chicago gave Orlando for two and half years of Vucevic. It would’ve give them a much better shot at the Nets but I can understand the hesitation - especially from Doc’s POV. Doc loves those young guys. Doc did not allow Maxey to be included in the Houston trade. As a basketball fan at large, I’m thankful because harden is way more entertaining over there than he would have been in philly. The time to go all in was then, just like it was for the Heat who also missed out on Harden. Lowry is great but I can see the hesitation to go all in especially when he can leave in summer. I think Houston Morey would’ve made that move but in year 1 of Philly he would rather see how the unit performs in the playoffs and try to get Lowry in the summer.
These capped out contenders kind of have to operate different in their dealmaking. Like Luke Kenard gets 54/4 because he has Aaron Mintz, agent of PG, Jj reddick and bunch of others, but also because the Clippers intend to keep PG/Kawhi till they’re 35 and need contracts to trade.
May turn out to have been the wrong move but they can still make a similar move for a player of that caliber down the line. Morey mentioned keeping that optionality.
Lakers not including THT for Lowry could cost em too. I like Brooklyn’s best two, best three, best five, best eight, and best 1-15 better than Lakers. And, Schroeder and KCP and Gasol have some issues with the front office now.
Summer of 2021 has always been the Heat’s all in summer since we got Jimmy so I’m fine with waiting. We have a team that matchup well against anybody outside of guarding Embiid.
Putting the feelings about Morey aside, Pat Riley agreed with him to an extent or else he would’ve made the trade for Kyle. He has overpaid for guys before. Jimmy has been trying to play with Lowry since he got to Miami, and Vice versa. And Masai said he was kind of shocked at some of the responses he got back from GMs about Lowry so there was some clear disagreement on how he viewed it versus everyone else.
I look at it the opposite way for the Sixers. They're pot-committed to those 3 guys and Lowry is a seamless fit. Their title window may not last forever and Danny Green's salary will expire. They don't have unlimited options to add to that roster and there's an opportunity cost with time. Morey should know that considering what's become of the Rockets who were a CP3 injury and an awful shooting half away from a likely title.
Lowry is MUCH more valuable than Vooch imo. The Vooch trade was insanity. He has the worst +/- in the league and gets exposed in the playoffs worse than any big I've ever seen. Today was their first win since making the trade - thanks to the Nets picking up 2 more big-name washed dudes.
I haven't watched much NBA this year so idk if Maxey is good or not. If he has real potential then they're right to keep him. I just know Thybulle is replaceable and a late 1st is best used as a trade chip.
The Kennard move never made sense to me but the way you explain it has some merit. Problem is they have no picks and if that's a negative asset contract good luck trading him.
It's hard to believe the Lakers were really involved in the Lowry talks because of the hoops they'd have to jump through to match salary. I'm glad that didn't happen cause THT is really unathletic and overrated, and I don't wanna see LeBron in another Finals.
We don't know why Riley held back. Lowry is a mercurial personality while Oladipo is a straightforward grinder type, which is the type of guy Riley has always sought after. That's one theory. Or he just really values Herro, or he thinks it's better to keep options open for this offseason. I saw the Raptors push in for Ibaka and Tucker one year then add Kawhi in the offseason so I'm conditioned to believe you gotta strike while you can and chase a window that's available, assuming the value works out.