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Has any Coach recovered from being a Corch?

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Has there ever been a HC you thought was a Corch, but somehow learned or recovered and became a Savage? NCs are not a requirement. Gary Patterson and Mark Dantonio have never won one. Despite down years in 2016 both are not corches.
 
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Kirk Ferenz seems to go back and forth..Gene Chizic went from corch to coach, back to corch, to assistant coach.
 
Southbeach44 said:
Kirk Ferenz seems to go back and forth..Gene Chizic went from corch to coach, back to corch, to assistant coach.
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Chizic had Cam at Auburn, right? He needed a transcendent player to win, and still almost lost the NC to Oregon. Corch.
 
bhall960 said:
Dabo
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Was my first thought too. But if you look at his resume at Clemson it's quite impressive.

I'm not including his interim HC year (was only 7 games)

Year 1 9-5
Year 2 6-7
Year 3 10-4
Year 4 11-2
Year 5 11-2
Year 6 10-3
Year 7 14-1

It's always years 3 and 4 that you find out what you've got. Year 1 is obviously too soon, and year 2 is often worse than year 1 because you feature so many freshmen and sophomores.
 
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iLoveTDs said:
bhall960 said:
Dabo
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Was my first thought too. But if you look at his resume at Clemson it's quite impressive.

I'm not including his interim HC year (was only 7 games)

Year 1 9-5
Year 2 6-7
Year 3 10-4
Year 4 11-2
Year 5 11-2
Year 6 10-3
Year 7 14-1

It's always years 3 and 4 that you find out what you've got. Year 1 is obviously too soon, and year 2 is often worse than year 1 because you feature so many freshmen and sophomores.
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Would've been fired at UM after 2 years.
 
Green5 said:
Dantonio actually did seem like a corch until year 4 or 5 at MSU.
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He did if you were clueless about Michigan State's lowly standing as a football program. He's worked miracles at that **** hole, and it's probably over now that Michigan and Ohio State have monsters running their programs.
 
Good coaches like Patterson can have occasional down years at bad programs because they're working on such a slim margin. They are getting the recruiting scraps in Texas, and they're competing in a P5 conference which those scraps.

Dabo was a 30 year old WR coach/Real Estate Agent when he got the Clemson gig. You'd expect some growing pains. He's turned that program into a machine from being an 8 win program to 11+ per year and viewed as marquee.

Has a corch ever rebounded in in his 16th year as a HC to become a top HC?
 
I don't understand the Butch obsession being that no one else is knocking down his door for his services. Ok I get it fans saying he was waiting for Miami to decide. So what you are saying is if USC called or LSU came calling he wouldn't jump at the chance? Yeah right he would leave Miami at the alter again. He built probably the greatest team in college football history but he also made very bad decisions like going to the Browns. Like using Bryan Pata to recruit against Miami while at NC. Coaches that go back to a previous school don't have a good track record (except Petrino) like John Robinson at USC or Bill Walsh at Stanford. Walsh couldn't do it with The Cardinal and he may be the best offensive mind in the history of football period.

Time is running out on this program I mean how many blunders and disasters over 15 years can a school make? Not saying Rick is perfect he needs to change things up but at least he provides stability and longevity sorely missing in this program. Rick isn't going anywhere he will retire once this gig is up.
 
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The Franchise said:
Green5 said:
Dantonio actually did seem like a corch until year 4 or 5 at MSU.
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He did if you were clueless about Michigan State's lowly standing as a football program. He's worked miracles at that **** hole, and it's probably over now that Michigan and Ohio State have monsters running their programs.
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Even Saban sucked at MSU until his last year, but all this proves you need players to win.
 
The Franchise said:
Good coaches like Patterson can have occasional down years at bad programs because they're working on such a slim margin. They are getting the recruiting scraps in Texas, and they're competing in a P5 conference which those scraps.

Dabo was a 30 year old WR coach/Real Estate Agent when he got the Clemson gig. You'd expect some growing pains. He's turned that program into a machine from being an 8 win program to 11+ per year and viewed as marquee.

Has a corch ever rebounded in in his 16th year as a HC to become a top HC?
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Good question. Unlikely.
 
CaniacMike21 said:
Jimmy Johnson
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JJ was never a Corch. Oklahoma State was a bad program in an era when Oklahoma and Nebraska ruled the Big 8. He took over a NC team from Schelly, and reinvented it into a modern dynasty that changed how college football is played.
 
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