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FullyERicht

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........With at least one of the following: (aka, it's not just one issue, folks)

1) Green, Porter, Pierre, Gaines, Cornelius, AJ, Rodgers, Morris, Walford, Cleveland.....these kids all had no business being offered to play here, let alone comprise 50% of the starting lineup!

2) the kids on defense were all recruited for a completely different scheme. Chickillo is a 4-3 DE. When you switch to a 3-4, he has two options: Play OLB, which he is too slow for, or bulk the kid up and play the DE spot (which is a very physically demanding, 2-gap spot). So the kid bulks up, and is actually holding his own. But the increase in size killed his athleticism, and he is basically a JAG. Wasted talent, but none of the upper class men were meant to play in a 3-4.

3) the kids got bigger, but not more explosive. The Nebraska teams we used to **** on in the 80's and early 90's were all bigger than us. Guarantee they could all bench press more too. But football power is simple physics: force = mass x acceleration. Skinny and fast GENERATES THE SAME FORCE AS BIG AND SLOW. The job of the staff, and specifically the S and C program, is to find the ideal balance at which a players speed and size generates the ideal amount of "force" which we see as explosiveness. So DP may be stronger, but he hits with the same force, AND is slower sideline to sideline. Simple math.

Al Golden is not a strength coach; either let Swasey do his job (and we've seen what that looks like), or bring in someone who can get real results. Tanking in November every year gets very very old.

4) the scheme: as I've written before, if you are going to play this base defense you either need a dominant pair of OLB, or a well designed package of blitzes. We have neither. Zone based defenses are all interconnected. It's like a leaky ship, you plug one hole another bursts. And our staff is completely incapable of stopping the leak once it springs bc they are helplessly dependent on everything working in concert. There are no backup plans, no package of well designed some blitzes. It is amateur hour, and D'Ono absolutely has to be fired.

The system is a joke. The players do lack talent. The offseason programs are still ineffective.

Fire D'No, Swasey, and spend some goddam money, recruit like the have, and we can fix things. Anything less is a concession to mediocrity.........
 
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the defense has flat out quit. it was embarrassing

When Duke tweets embarrassment, that is bad. Kid is pure green and orange, and this staff has got him to where he wants to leave. Sad situation.
 
the defense has flat out quit. it was embarrassing

It's like we field 2 teams. The offense, minus Morris, seems to go out and give it everything they've got. The defense, not so much. Although I guess when the talent just isn't there it makes it look like an easy arguement.
 
none of this is something you can fix over night. you cant win with too many underclassmen we tried that in 08 remember?
 
I took a look at our defensive 2-deep. If they were all eligible for the 2014 NFL draft, I'd guess DP will be a 3rd or 4th rounder. Maybe 2 others would be day 3. Howard, Gunter, Chick? 6th round right now? Everyone else? UFA. So basically one guy who should even be starting at Miami (and probably as our 2nd or 3rd best LB not our best), and 21 other guys who are either not good enough or are starting when they should be backups coming up.

Forget the recruiting rankings and the color of the jersey. Tell me I'm wrong and who. Please. Cause it's depressing.
 
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I agree with 2&4.... If duke had our defense they'd be 10-0 so i dont agree with numero uno
 
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I agree with everything you said except the mention of Morris in #1. He isn't great, but he is a lot better that other QB's that we have had on the roster; even in our heyday. Crudup, Berlin, Wright, Kelly (Kenny), Freeman, Marve, Harris, etc.

You hit it out of the park on #3. That **** needed to be fixed a long time ago. Yeah, DP is all swollen up, but he can't move now. Golden needs to stop the micro-managing bull**** and hire a real S&C coach and let him do his **** job.
 
Wish we would have **** on Nebraska after the 94 season but I recall them taking over the 4th qtr.
 
With respect to the defense "quitting" you have to understand that anyone would quit if they keep banging their head against a wall. What do you do when you are trying but are completely confused. When you listen and try to apply things and get zero result? It's nice to think that you'll just try harder but you've tried that approach for many games and it's not working. When you see no potential for success you get frustrated and shut down. It's inevitable.

Regarding Swasey everybody was all excited with our huge team earlier this year and our OL seems to be doing fine. You can pair whatever strength coach you want with these defensive coaches and it won't matter. Nobody is going to look god in this. They cannot execute and they've given up. They had the physicality to handle UF when UF was intereseted. They have the physicality to handle duke and vt but mentally they arent invested due to their coaching
 
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Goldens first mistake was keep Swasey after his first off season. Whenever a new coach is hired, he brings in new SC coach. His second mistake was keeping Donofrio and Jethro after season 2. Swasey has been the constant over the last 10 years. As the season wears on.. We get noticeably weeker. Golden has a chance to make the necessary changes this off season and if he doesn't-- he won't be very long. 3 straight years of statistically the worst defense ever in MIAMI history. Every team has broken records against us (Connette was the latest w/ rushing TDs in DUKE history). Connette, Rettig, Price, Thomas, that Virgina QB, Driskel, basically everyone has Heisman moments on us. That isn't a talent problem.

Change will be coming. Once Va and Pitt roll us up in the mattress the heat on Goldens *** will be scotching. We end the year 7-6
 
With respect to the defense "quitting" you have to understand that anyone would quit if they keep banging their head against a wall. What do you do when you are trying but are completely confused. When you listen and try to apply things and get zero result? It's nice to think that you'll just try harder but you've tried that approach for many games and it's not working. When you see no potential for success you get frustrated and shut down. It's inevitable.

Regarding Swasey everybody was all excited with our huge team earlier this year and our OL seems to be doing fine. You can pair whatever strength coach you want with these defensive coaches and it won't matter. Nobody is going to look god in this. They cannot execute and they've given up. They had the physicality to handle UF when UF was intereseted. They have the physicality to handle duke and vt but mentally they arent invested due to their coaching

YES, they have increased their size to handle one dimensional power run teams. But they lost a ton of speed flexibility and explosiveness. That's the issue. It's either one or the other and THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

The beginning of the year we tackled well too. Now we are sluggish, get pushed around like rag dolls. THAT'S A POORLY CONDITIONED TEAM. Every year for a decade we run out of gas by November. WTF does scheme have anything to do with our players not being able to physically handle a full season?????. How many failed regimes can one guy survive with atrresults.
 
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