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Greg Cote gone from The Herald

AtlAtty said:
Every one makes this comment because it is, of course, very true. But I think we have lost a lot with the loss of traditional print media (I could care less whether it is printed or digital). The reason being that legacy media did more long range, long running stories that required investigative journalism. Remember the days of 3 or 4 part stories? Stories that were investigated for months and months.

We have some of that still with people like Pablo Torre and the work he did on the Clippers salary cap circumvention, but we have mostly lost investigative journalism in favor of headline journalism which reports the news but never looks below the surface.

Would a story like Watergate even be exposed anymore? Which company in new media has the resources AND the willingness to let journalists chase a story for months? I think we have lost as much or more than we have gained.
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Good points. What has changed is the delivery format for the in-depth or investigative pieces, as well as for daily news coverage. It’s all available on the web, podcast, etc. A major difference is you have to know or filter through the lean or political agenda of the outlet.
Simple exchange of how basic coverage has changed is the rise of CanesInSight. I can watch Monday interviews with coaches & later in the week interviews with players & hear every word for myself. In the old media days, and same today with local media, snippets from those same interviews will be used in stories rolled out during the week. So no need to buy or read the Herald or Sun-Sentinel to regurgitate what I heard days earlier.
 
TheATLCane said:
Paywall model doesn’t work
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It would have if media adopted it early instead of going "everything online is free because we're still making money off print" in the early years of the internet. Now, everyone expects it to be free.

Can't wait to see what the aggregators do once journalism dies. Who will they pull their information from? Makes DMoney and this operation forward thinking with the type of access they get, but personally, I always think there needs to be a place for reporting that isn't coming from a homer perspective. That's not a shot at D or CIS. I love what we have here. But there needs to be the other side of the coverage, too.
 
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AtlAtty said:
Every one makes this comment because it is, of course, very true. But I think we have lost a lot with the loss of traditional print media (I could care less whether it is printed or digital). The reason being that legacy media did more long range, long running stories that required investigative journalism. Remember the days of 3 or 4 part stories? Stories that were investigated for months and months.

We have some of that still with people like Pablo Torre and the work he did on the Clippers salary cap circumvention, but we have mostly lost investigative journalism in favor of headline journalism which reports the news but never looks below the surface.

Would a story like Watergate even be exposed anymore? Which company in new media has the resources AND the willingness to let journalists chase a story for months? I think we have lost as much or more than we have gained.
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National stories will still be told. The problem with losing local journalism is your local stories will not. And the local stories impact your life WAY more than the national stories.

People who denigrate local media are absolute morons. But certain groups throughout history have attacked the media for these very reasons. And every time people fall for it.
 
TpaBayFlyFisher said:
The sites like Drudge or Real Clear created a workable model to gather and link to stories so that customers [ads pay for it] can find information relevant to their interests. CIS is doing that for a small slice of the population. It is the only site I pay for information.
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You are referencing websites that have minuscule staffs and are built on using information from outside those staffs. It's not a workable model for a media company
 
AtlAtty said:
Every one makes this comment because it is, of course, very true. But I think we have lost a lot with the loss of traditional print media (I could care less whether it is printed or digital). The reason being that legacy media did more long range, long running stories that required investigative journalism. Remember the days of 3 or 4 part stories? Stories that were investigated for months and months.

We have some of that still with people like Pablo Torre and the work he did on the Clippers salary cap circumvention, but we have mostly lost investigative journalism in favor of headline journalism which reports the news but never looks below the surface.

Would a story like Watergate even be exposed anymore? Which company in new media has the resources AND the willingness to let journalists chase a story for months? I think we have lost as much or more than we have gained.
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These stories still exist, people just don't give a **** anymore and some people have enough power to threaten with lawsuits if they don't want their stuff to be publicized.

Lance Armstrong being a very public example of powerful people being able to silence the crowd...
 
I listened to his podcast on the Lebatard show. He said he has been thinking about retirement for a while but wanted to go out on his own terms. Was upset until his wife told him its better to go out with a severance package than to just retire.

The first thing his wife said when he told her was "Good!". He kept talking about retirement but would never do it so this forces him to.
 
AtlAtty said:
Every one makes this comment because it is, of course, very true. But I think we have lost a lot with the loss of traditional print media (I could care less whether it is printed or digital). The reason being that legacy media did more long range, long running stories that required investigative journalism. Remember the days of 3 or 4 part stories? Stories that were investigated for months and months.

We have some of that still with people like Pablo Torre and the work he did on the Clippers salary cap circumvention, but we have mostly lost investigative journalism in favor of headline journalism which reports the news but never looks below the surface.

Would a story like Watergate even be exposed anymore? Which company in new media has the resources AND the willingness to let journalists chase a story for months? I think we have lost as much or more than we have gained.
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As a whole, we've been sacrificing deep journalistic integrity and thorough factual coverage in print media for the speed and non-stop clickbait news cycle for a while now. AI is just going to make it worse.

It's going to be less about what's actually correct/factual/well-researched and vetted versus what's fast, is more popular, and gets the most clicks. Sensationalism feeds on those latter traits, which sucks for us as a society.
 
HTXCane said:
I listened to his podcast on the Lebatard show. He said he has been thinking about retirement for a while but wanted to go out on his own terms. Was upset until his wife told him its better to go out with a severance package than to just retire.

The first thing his wife said when he told her was "Good!". He kept talking about retirement but would never do it so this forces him to.
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He's a welcome addition to Local Hour. Guy is a pro-UM straight shooter, which helps to balance out the trolls and ***** like Jeremy.
 
AtlAtty said:
Every one makes this comment because it is, of course, very true. But I think we have lost a lot with the loss of traditional print media (I could care less whether it is printed or digital). The reason being that legacy media did more long range, long running stories that required investigative journalism. Remember the days of 3 or 4 part stories? Stories that were investigated for months and months.

We have some of that still with people like Pablo Torre and the work he did on the Clippers salary cap circumvention, but we have mostly lost investigative journalism in favor of headline journalism which reports the news but never looks below the surface.

Would a story like Watergate even be exposed anymore? Which company in new media has the resources AND the willingness to let journalists chase a story for months? I think we have lost as much or more than we have gained.
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zero sympathy for the profession. they choose sides and transformed from journalists to advocates generally for one political side. they committed suicide. FAAFO. obviously, this applies a lot less to sports journalists, but the point remains.
 
People get mad about takes or reports that they don’t like, or political views in editorials (shockingly on the old-school "opinions" pages that they don’t like) - unless of course its their network or blog or publication of choice that self-confirms theirs, so it's "unbiased", but this country is going to regret not having good local reporting and investigation at some point -if they don’t already and no your local YouTuber or influencer isn’t what I’m talking about in almost every case.

The media companies blew it; they brought on their own demise. The market has spoken, but a real, independent press, free from being bullied by their government, is super ******* important, and we are losing it.

And if you don't think that's happening, well... FSU is a good program right now too
 
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Ispyin said:
People get mad about attacks that I don’t like or political means that they don’t like but this country is going to regret not having good local reporting an investigation at some point if they don’t already know you’re a local YouTuber or influencer isn’t what I’m talking about

The media companies blew it they brought on their own demise. The market has spoken, but a real press Independent, and not being bullied by their government is super ******* important and we are losing it.
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On the local thing, saw yesterday that the Charlotte Hornets won’t even have a local beat reporter this year as part of the same ownership group cuts that happened at the Herald. Not one beat reporter for one of 30 nba franchises.

That’s ******* insane to me. I know, it’s the Hornets. But still.
 
Ispyin said:
People get mad about attacks that I don’t like or political means that they don’t like but this country is going to regret not having good local reporting an investigation at some point if they don’t already know you’re a local YouTuber or influencer isn’t what I’m talking about

The media companies blew it they brought on their own demise. The market has spoken, but a real press Independent, and not being bullied by their government is super ******* important and we are losing it.
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Its been lost for a while
 
rsa coral gables said:
zero sympathy for the profession. they choose sides and transformed from journalists to advocates generally for one political side. they committed suicide. FAAFO. obviously, this applies a lot less to sports journalists, but the point remains.
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Media, politicians, ambulance chasers, used car salesmen, "influencers"
 
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