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Great Article on Coach Justice

The more I read articles about the CANES, culture of parties, weak *** OL, and weak coaches, this sounds like lack of institutional control!
 
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gatorsSUCK! said:
Hang those cookies in front of Donaldson to make him run
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Hoyacane1620 said:
Really good stuff. some very sharp commentary on our past two OL coaches:

A former Miami player and a parent of a current offensive lineman told The Athletic recently UM has badly needed an offensive line coach who is more relatable on a personal level to his players and a more patient teacher.

Veteran college coach Stacy Searels, who was fired by Diaz along with the rest of Mark Richt’s offensive staff following the 2018 season and is now at North Carolina, “yelled too much at players, shaking their confidence,” the parent said.

Shaking confidence is a criticism even Diaz alluded to in the past without calling Searels by name.

As for Butch Barry, a former NFL assistant with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers before coming to Miami with Dan Enos (his former boss at Central Michigan), he apparently did a better job teaching than Searels did. “My son said he learned more from Barry in two weeks than he ever did under Searels in two years,” the current players’ parent said.

One criticism of Barry, though, was he wasn’t patient enough with some players who struggled to pick up what he was teaching, and ultimately the parent said that’s why Miami’s offensive line rotation didn’t extend beyond its starters and backup John Campbell, a redshirt freshman. “He just wasn’t a player’s coach,” the former player said. “He had that NFL mentality about him.”

Said the current players’ parent: “If guys got hurt, he didn’t even call to check up on them. He was cold like that.”


On Justice:
Film study is very important to Justice, his former players said. That’s something former Hurricane linemen Bryant McKinnie and Brett Romberg said earlier this year was a problem with Miami’s players. Both met with players at Miami before and during the season and said they didn’t put enough time into breaking down film. Justice, though, wants his players well-versed in film study and employs some interesting tactics to make sure they do.


The link to the entire article: https://theathletic.com/1531486/?source=twittered
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Sounds like some pussified bull**** to me.

Moar trinkets and dance parties!!!
 
This is sad to hear...

"Film study is very important to Justice, his former players said. That’s something former Hurricane linemen Bryant McKinnie and Brett Romberg said earlier this year was a problem with Miami’s players. Both met with players at Miami before and during the season and said they didn’t put enough time into breaking down film. Justice, though, wants his players well-versed in film study and employs some interesting tactics to make sure they do."
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
Really good stuff. some very sharp commentary on our past two OL coaches:

A former Miami player and a parent of a current offensive lineman told The Athletic recently UM has badly needed an offensive line coach who is more relatable on a personal level to his players and a more patient teacher.

Veteran college coach Stacy Searels, who was fired by Diaz along with the rest of Mark Richt’s offensive staff following the 2018 season and is now at North Carolina, “yelled too much at players, shaking their confidence,” the parent said.

Shaking confidence is a criticism even Diaz alluded to in the past without calling Searels by name.

As for Butch Barry, a former NFL assistant with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers before coming to Miami with Dan Enos (his former boss at Central Michigan), he apparently did a better job teaching than Searels did. “My son said he learned more from Barry in two weeks than he ever did under Searels in two years,” the current players’ parent said.

One criticism of Barry, though, was he wasn’t patient enough with some players who struggled to pick up what he was teaching, and ultimately the parent said that’s why Miami’s offensive line rotation didn’t extend beyond its starters and backup John Campbell, a redshirt freshman. “He just wasn’t a player’s coach,” the former player said. “He had that NFL mentality about him.”

Said the current players’ parent: “If guys got hurt, he didn’t even call to check up on them. He was cold like that.”


On Justice:
Film study is very important to Justice, his former players said. That’s something former Hurricane linemen Bryant McKinnie and Brett Romberg said earlier this year was a problem with Miami’s players. Both met with players at Miami before and during the season and said they didn’t put enough time into breaking down film. Justice, though, wants his players well-versed in film study and employs some interesting tactics to make sure they do.


The link to the entire article: https://theathletic.com/1531486/?source=twittered
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basically our oline is a bunch of soft *** ninjas...got it. Nothing i didnt know.
 
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Interesting tidbit: Justice shares similar devoted Christian beliefs as Richt.

When will the Pastor Justice attacks start when OL sucks (again)?
 
Shogungts said:
“From an offensive tackle standpoint, there was a lot of quick-set/short-set blocking schemes in pass protection, meaning instead of a kick-step back and the tackle meeting a rusher at an angle three yards back, you fire out and attack him so he doesn’t get into his move, like you see in play-action passes,” Harris said. “The problem with that is it makes it an angle situation. Because if the pass rushers’ get-off is good, your angle as a tackle is beat and you’re beat. That’s why you saw (Zion) Nelson with his shoulders turned so much because he would go out to quick-set and the guys, he was trying to block were exploding off the ball, which means he had to turn.

“When you kick-step back, and basically wait for them to come to you, that’s when you use your hands, your leverage. Nelson has long arms. If Justice comes in and works on Nelson’s kick-step, uses his punch, gets his hands on people, he’ll be a lot better.”

I don't claim to be any type of offensive expert (or defensive for that matter), but is the reason they don't drop b/c of the recentish college football rules allowing Olinemen to be up to 3 yards in front of the LOS and RPOs? That by dropping back you either 1) give away that it is a pass allowing the LBs to drop back or 2) make it very difficult to run since you are allowing the Dline to crash in?
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Interesting question and I wish I knew the answer. There are also completely different blocking styles. I remember at one point a few years ago the analysts were breaking down an NFL team whose offensive line’s first step was always toward the rusher (similar to what you quoted). They wanted to attack the defenders. Personally I loved the idea from the overly simplistic take that it made the offensive linemen the attacker every play.
 
I think Gaynor, Clark, and Scaife will be good players for us next year. How successful we are will depend on what we can do on the left side of the line. Whether that means Donaldson and Nelson improving... a lot of work there because Donaldson has to lose weight first and foremost and Zion has to get bigger and stronger. Or developing someone else at LT or LG or a grad transfer to play there or if it means someone taking over RT and Scaife moving to LT or LG.

We finally have some age and experience returning on the OL and that will help. I think we're a solid LT away from being a formidable unit though. Until we solve that position its gonna be a makeshift unit with guys playing out of position and looking like they just suck across the board.
 
mjackson6 said:
I think Gaynor, Clark, and Scaife will be good players for us next year. How successful we are will depend on what we can do on the left side of the line. Whether that means Donaldson and Nelson improving... a lot of work there because Donaldson has to lose weight first and foremost and Zion has to get bigger and stronger. Or developing someone else at LT or LG or a grad transfer to play there or if it means someone taking over RT and Scaife moving to LT or LG.

We finally have some age and experience returning on the OL and that will help. I think we're a solid LT away from being a formidable unit though. Until we solve that position its gonna be a makeshift unit with guys playing out of position and looking like they just suck across the board.
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Agreed. With some luck, Rivers, Campbell, or even Reed can come in with the right mindset and take someone's lunch. And like just about everyone on this board, I'd really love to see a plug-and-play GT brought in at OT to compete for (i.e., take) Nelson's spot.

In a perfect world, something like GT, Campbell/Reed, Gaynor, Clark, Scaife. Or (even better) if Rivers gets in early and can establish himself as a legit RT and one of our top 5 OL, GT, Clark/Campbell/Reed, Gaynor, Scaife, Rivers. I'd love for us to have enough quality tackles on the team to allow Scaife to play OG, which is a much better fit for his body type and physicality.

Between the scheme change and coaching change, I tend to agree that adding one solid starter at LT completely changes the makeup of this OL. If our new OL coach can do as good a job convincing a quality GT OT to enroll as he did convincing his wife to marry him, then we're money.
 
Mackmiller974 said:
theathletic.com

All the sweet stuff the Miami Hurricanes are getting in new offensive line coach Garin Justice

Ex-linemen say UM blockers will appreciate Justice's teaching skills, practice drills, film work — and especially his wife's cookies.
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I think miami is getting two pretty good coaches in Lashlee and Justice. Hopefully they upgrade our offense in a big way. They both have Head Coach potential based on their track record but I don't advise Miami to automatically hire one of them if Diaz gets fired. We have gone down that route before and see how it turned out?! In other words, hiring coaches from failed staffs.
 
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We're going to have to have some guards that can move because the staples of Lashlee's run game is Power, Counter, Bucksweep, Inside and Outside Zone. A lot of pulls for the those guards.
 
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