canecountry3
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Professor Canecountry3 gives Golden an "Incomplete" though he has written home to his parents IRT to his shaky test scores (FSU) and open book quizzes (UVA).
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SouthMiamiCane
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Ehh I don't know about that. We really need to see a huge improvement in our defense and our overall record. Another 6-6, 7-5 season ain't gonna cut it. If it doesn't happen this season, then it probably never will.
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Exactly. We most likely will have the best offense we have had in 10 years, literally everyone returning on both sides of the ball, and year #3 with his defensive scheme. Saying this season won't make or break him is absolutely absurd.
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Are you high or just trolling? Not gotten the most out of what they had? What talent did you see them misuse. Williams was given a back-up from WF as a starter in year 1 and had nearly an entire secondary full of 1-2nd year players last year.
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Finishing close to dead-last in total defense means that they did not do a good enough job. If you disagree then that's fine with me.
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If the defense was ranked at half of what it was ranked last year, you might be able to claim that the issues are solely with the talent. When you field the 3rd worst defense in the NCAA, it is hard to rationally argue that the issues don't run deeper than the talent.
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First off, your avatar depresses me. Smh. ****, the good ole days. We owned the Swamp that day. FLA was a scout team compared to us. It was all good just a week ago as my man Jay-Z says..
Anyway, I think the defense was a combo of bad talent at some positions, young talent at others, and a coach that was deadset on implementing his scheme with a group of personnel that didnt fit it. Hence the worst defense ANY UM fan has ever seen. Young and old.
And this is Al's make or break year. I dont mean winning the MNC. But Al HAS TO get back to the ACC title game. And even if we dont win, we have to go to a bowl game and win the **** thing. (something we havent done in 7 years) So it can set the table to make a great run the year after. When guys like Chick/Pierre/Perryman/Bond/Bunche are seniors and Duke/Bush/Howard/Flowers are juniors.
If we ***** around and only win 6-8 game this year the aftershocks could be crazy. We could lose key recruits (Lane, Cook, Lammons, Clark, etc.) Guys who are Juniors might stop believing in the staff and leave early like Brandon Harris did. (Bunche, Perryman, Chick, Pierre possibly) This year is very crucial to us turning the corner.
To answer the original thread, I give Al a solid B.
Anyway, I think the defense was a combo of bad talent at some positions, young talent at others, and a coach that was deadset on implementing his scheme with a group of personnel that didnt fit it. Hence the worst defense ANY UM fan has ever seen. Young and old.
And this is Al's make or break year. I dont mean winning the MNC. But Al HAS TO get back to the ACC title game. And even if we dont win, we have to go to a bowl game and win the **** thing. (something we havent done in 7 years) So it can set the table to make a great run the year after. When guys like Chick/Pierre/Perryman/Bond/Bunche are seniors and Duke/Bush/Howard/Flowers are juniors.
If we ***** around and only win 6-8 game this year the aftershocks could be crazy. We could lose key recruits (Lane, Cook, Lammons, Clark, etc.) Guys who are Juniors might stop believing in the staff and leave early like Brandon Harris did. (Bunche, Perryman, Chick, Pierre possibly) This year is very crucial to us turning the corner.
To answer the original thread, I give Al a solid B.
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We'll have to disagree then. There are issues that need addressing but the talent that was left on the defense from Corch Shannon was laughable at best. The defense is a complete rebuild job and last year was the groung floor of the rebuilding efforts, there were freshman all over the field on defense. Very few teams are going to look ggod playing that manu young kids at key positions all over the defense.
How long are we going to blame Randy For Golden? I think Golden has done a decent job, nothing spectacular. No reason to lose to UNC, and UVA. Getting destroyed by K state and ND was embarassing. Let's see if Golden is what we all think he is, let him beat UF, and win the ACC.
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Dandycane, I dont think we meant make or break as far as him being fired. (At least I didnt). Make or Break in a sense that his tenure could go either way here. Is he gonna be a career 7-9 win guy? Or is he gonna take that next step? I dont care what anybody says..The competition aint getting any worse. FSU/FLA are already reloading yearly and are ready to bust heads. We talk about the ACC being down EVERY YEAR and yet we still end up losing 2-3 games in the conference. These next two years is **** near now or never as far as becoming relevant again and not having our games broadcasted on ESPNU or FoxSportsNet. We got the talent. Now lets put it all together and see what we got.
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If you want to make the comparison to a recruit then you have to put it in context. I'd say Golden is a 4/5-star recruit whose throwing arm was tied behind his back bc of the NCAA, and he is surrounded by fellow freshman trying to play against grown men. So in that scenario, I supposed his 4/5 star rating may fall to a 2 star or less. But the fundamental talent is there, and will come out, once all the bull**** he's been dealing with clears.
His recruiting has been nothing short of exceptional in the face of ridiculously bad circumstances.
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I don't agree that his tenure will be decided either way, based on this year. I think the next few years will be the indicator ... But not 2013, alone. 7-5 or 6-6 will suck, and we should all question him. But "make or break" means him failing to win the ACC next year means he never will, or is not the guy to lead Miami ... And I just don't put that much significance on 2013. I'll give him a full 5 years before making my call ... Give him a full team of "his" guys, and his system. If he's 6-6 or 7-5 for the next 2 years ... That's "break". Because that's a pattern with his own guys and system in place.
And on the other side ... Even if he wins 10 or 11 games this season, I'll still wait to see if he can maintain in 2014 before making a conclusion ... So, for me ... 2014 is make or break. 2013 is just another year in the process and evaluation ... Good or bad.
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jesus ******* christ.
So, if he wins 10 or 11 games this year, then only gets 9 the following season with Ryan Williams or a freshman QB, Golden should be fired? We are STILL re-building. It isn't a hard concept. Al Golden is re-building this god**** thing from the ground up, and that takes ******* time. If he gets 10+ wins next season and avoids a bull**** loss to the likes of UVA, USF or Duke, then he should absolutely be given 2-3 more years alone unless the team totally implodes the following season.
This program is in a re-building stage that will take 5-7 seasons to come full circle. We got A.) skull ****ed by back to back coaches, which entirely screwed some connections in SFLA recruiting, and also mouth ****ed our roster, and B.) the NCAA is coming at us with AK47's, tanks and RPG's, even though they have yet to hit their target. This isn't a Michigan re-build where a change of coach was needed to steer the ship back in the right direction. We had to literally re-pair most of the god**** ship just so we could keep it afloat, and now we are in the works of fixing everything else so we can go this ***** steaming into the god**** islands.
Al Golden appears to be the man for the long haul. But if he isn't, then I thank him for preventing this program from going under. He has led us through NCAA bull****, is re-pairing the roster year by year (I don't think people to this day realize how god ******* awful our roster was last season because of corch Shannon.) and has totally wiped out the lazy, self-entitled bull**** that ran wild within this football program for 5+ **** years.
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Golden has yet to complete an entire season without the **** brown cloud of the NCAA lingering. Guy has been working at a disadvantage all but 7 or 8 months he's been the CEO.
When I consider that, he has done an outstanding job.
He turned Temple around in 4 years and this upcoming season will tell me a lot one way or another.
He gets an INC for now.
When I consider that, he has done an outstanding job.
He turned Temple around in 4 years and this upcoming season will tell me a lot one way or another.
He gets an INC for now.