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Tony4Canes said:
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Sorry for him and especially his family that Hulk was taken away at 71. RIP.

I never "got" the staged aspect of WWE with the pre-determined outcomes and drama. Good entertainment for a lot of people I guess. I'm just not one of them.
 
hotshot said:
Sorry for him and especially his family that Hulk was taken away at 71. RIP.

I never "got" the staged aspect of WWE with the pre-determined outcomes and drama. Good entertainment for a lot of people I guess. I'm just not one of them.
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It’s a fictional sporting event with extra meta human elements (Undertaker controlling arena lights, Hogan and Warrior being impervious to pain) that requires temporary suspension of disbelief.
 
GojiraCane said:
It’s a fictional sporting event with extra meta human elements (Undertaker controlling arena lights, Hogan and Warrior being impervious to pain) that requires temporary suspension of disbelief.
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I get it and the WWE "wrestlers" did get MUCH more athletic and entertaining over the years.

I recall watching Gorilla Monsoon and Haystacks Calhoun back on TV in NYC in the 50s. They were just big and/or fat guys whose "pulled punches" and "holds" looked ludicrous even to the 12 year old me.
 
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hotshot said:
I get it and the WWE "wrestlers" did get MUCH more athletic and entertaining over the years.

I recall matching Gorilla Monsoon and Haystacks Calhoun back on TV in NYC in the 50s. They were just big and/or fat guys whose "pulled punches" and "holds" looked ludicrous even to the 12 year old me.
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For me..:the first match was Corporal Kirschner vs Johnny K-9 in 1985. The nine months I believed it was real…it was the most exciting sport I had ever seen. And the most exciting to me was Hogan vs Orndorff on Saturday Night’s Main Event in Oct 1986.
 
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GojiraCane said:
For me..:the first match was Corporal Kirschner vs Johnny K-9 in 1985. The nine months I believed it was real…it was the most exciting sport I had ever seen. And the most exciting to me was Hogan vs Orndorff on Saturday Night’s Main Event in Oct 1986.
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I took a cub scout troop to Hulk vs Orndorff and explained it wasn’t real. When we walked into the Miami Beach Convention Center, it was real.
 
hotshot said:
I never "got" the staged aspect of WWE with the pre-determined outcomes and drama. Good entertainment for a lot of people I guess. I'm just not one of them.
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Understand your opinion and I never got it either.
My theory is that WWE was - to an extent - filling the void left by the garbage known as pro boxing. Nothing against Hagler, Sugar Ray, Tyson, Hearns and some of the other legit boxing greats of the 1980s, the structure of that sport was bad and not respected by the public, thanks to Don King, Bob Arum and the other assorted corrupt people promoting the sport.
I felt bad for the aforementioned boxers but the rest of the lot were an embarrassment to the sport, especially with some of the decisions.
So enter WWE which was also fixed, corrupt but at least it was fun with all the competing narratives and clear cut good and bad guys with their supporting stereotypes.
 
MedleyCane said:
Understand your opinion and I never got it either.
My theory is that WWE was - to an extent - filling the void left by the garbage known as pro boxing. Nothing against Hagler, Sugar Ray, Tyson, Hearns and some of the other legit boxing greats of the 1980s, the structure of that sport was bad and not respected by the public, thanks to Don King, Bob Arum and the other assorted corrupt people promoting the sport.
I felt bad for the aforementioned boxers but the rest of the lot were an embarrassment to the sport, especially with some of the decisions.
So enter WWE which was also fixed, corrupt but at least it was fun with all the competing narratives and clear cut good and bad guys with their supporting stereotypes.
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Yep. I grew up watching boxing every Friday nite on TV in the 50s. My dad was a big fan. All weight levels were featured and there were plenty of top fighters back then. This was the era between Rocky Marciano and Ali -- roughly 1953-63.

I wouldn't even call WWE "fixed" or "corrupt." It was pure entertainment where the result really never mattered. It was never covered on the Sports pages of newspapers just as the Harlem Globetrotters vs Washington Generals basketball games weren't really "sports" in the accepted sense.
 
hotshot said:
Yep. I grew up watching boxing every Friday nite on TV in the 50s. My dad was a big fan. All weight levels were featured and there were plenty of top fighters back then. This was the era between Rocky Marciano and Ali -- roughly 1953-63.

I wouldn't even call WWE "fixed" or "corrupt." It was pure entertainment where the result really never mattered. It was never covered on the Sports pages of newspapers just as the Harlem Globetrotters vs Washington Generals basketball games weren't really "sports" in the accepted sense.
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Harlem Globetrotters is a good analogy to pro boxing.
 
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