Fuente to UFlop Rumors

[Earnest T. Bass]

There’s no way UT or Nebraska is a better job.

Nebraska is a far more pedigreed team than the wannabe Florida Gators, also known as the “Florida Floppers”, “Cowardly Gators”, “Raiford Prison’s Holding Cell”, etc. Until Spurrier the Gators were a side show at a traveling carnival. And today, they are back to their rightful spot in college football. Nebraska has regularly been a powerhouse back to 1890.

Nebraska has more victories against Power Five opponents than any other program, as well as the third most victories all-time, behind only Michigan and Texas. Nebraska also has the most wins and the highest winning percentage of any program over the last 50 years. Two of Nebraska's national championship-winning teams, the 1971 and 1995 teams, are considered to be among the best college football has ever seen.

Nebraska claims 46 conference championships and five national championships. Also, the 2011–2012 Alabama Crimson Tide, the 1994–1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers, and the 1956–1957 Oklahoma Sooners are the only Division I-A teams to win consensus back-to-back national titles. Nebraska also has had five undefeated seasons in which they were not the national champions.

The Huskers hold the NCAA record of consecutive sellouts currently at 359 games (as of Oct. 14, 2017), the "Sea of Red" provides one of the most exciting game-day experiences in all of college football. The sellout streak dates back to November 3, 1962.

 

[TheMatador]

This is so hypocritical it is amazing.

I don't even think you know what hypocritical means.

What I know for sure is that you don't know anything about the history of college football in general and this program more specifically.

The program didn't really begin to get fairly respectable until we brought in Andy Gustafson, around 1950. I think we hired him from VPI (now known as Virginia Tech). Actually, we didn't. I think he was head coach at VPI some years earlier, and then went to be the offensive coordinator at Army, which was a powerhouse in the '40's, with Mr. Inside-Mr.Outside (Doc Blanchard-Glenn Davis) and great QB, Arnold Tucker (who was from Miami and also played at the U before playing at Army). We started to have some good teams in or about 1950 or so. We had Nick Chickillo, Frank Smith and some other early stars in UM's football history. It was hard to be better because we didn't have a large population base and had to recruit up north. We went to Pennsylvania for players. That state was much better than it is now. Also, many of the state schools had bigger budgets and probably had more personnel. In the late '60's, we were still bringing in some small recruiting classes compared to the big state schools which were most of the powerhouses. Exceptions might have been some of the private schools with very successful programs in the '50's or '60's, like Syracuse or USC. I can't think of any other private schools that were powerful during that era. Can you?

 

[SpikeUM]

The $EC has historically overpaid coaches, way more than other conferences. As other schools step up their facilities, coaching salaries, etc, (like UM), the allure of going $EC has greatly diminished.

 

[NJshoreCane]

-You also cant deny that if we had good coaches with the talent we had on our teams in the mid to late 2000s until golden left that we would not have been immeasurably better.

Couldn't every program in America say "we would have been really good if we didn't suck"?

Hey, your buddy Piccolo is back and at it again.
See Doppelganger comments.
This dude must be a real treat around the dinner table during the holidays.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Florida isn’t any type of blue blood program. You take out Urban Meyer and they’re a perennial 9 win team, I would take UT or the Nebraska job before I took the UF job.

I don't really want to defend them, but that Spurrier guy was pretty good. 122-27-1 and 87-12 in the SEC.

Oh no, I’m not under playing his obvious success there but even he won 11 games or better three times and that was in ‘93, ‘95, and ‘96. The rest are 10 games or lower

Jesus, why are you making me do this

9-2, 6-1, SEC Champs (probation, no bowl), [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 3[/URL]
10-2, 7-0, SEC Champs, Sugar Bowl, #7
9-4, 6-2, SEC East Champs, Gator Bowl, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 0[/URL]
11-2, 7-1, SEC Champs, Sugar Bowl, #4
10-2-1, 7-1, SEC Champs, Sugar Bowl, #7
12-1, 8-0, SEC Champs, Fiesta Bowl, #2
12-1, 8-0, SEC Champs, National Champs, Sugar Bowl, #1
10-2, 6-2, Citrus Bowl, #4
10-2, 7-1, Orange Bowl, #5
9-4, 7-1, SEC East Champs, Citrus Bowl, #1 2
10-3, 7-1, SEC Champs, Sugar Bowl, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 0[/URL]
10-2, 6-2, Orange Bowl, #3

If you frame it this way ^^^^ It looks more impressive

Wow! Now that's a first!! A Canes fan being a promoter, cheerleader for the Florida Gators. Brother, I would STRONGLY recommend that you put your blue and orange pom-poms down when in the presence of "real" Canes fans. Again, WOW!!!

 

[MotoSniper]

Why would he leave VT for UF...it's a lateral move...UF is not a prestige program.

 

[RVACane]

Virginia is not Deliverance country.

Blacksburg, VA is!!!

Outside of the DC suburbs, VA is Redneck Central. (Only other exception would be the African American sections of Richmond, Newport News and that surrounding urban area.)

I've lived in metro DC and Virginia Beach and now live in a predominantly white neighborhood in Richmond. My neighbors and I are not rednecks. You don't know what you're talking about making such broad assumptions and statements.

C'mon man, nobody is talking about you and your neighbors living in the suburbs of Richmond or VA Beach. Blacksburg is absolutely Deliverance country, if there is such a thing. It's beautiful country if you're in to that sort of thing, ok for me to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there, but it is absolutely well out in the middle of nowhere and while there are certainly good people everywhere, there are also lots of "hill folk" in that area.

Heck, I went to college in Southern MD, a lot less remote than Blacksburg, and there was definitely an element down there too. I wouldn't even necessarily say it was a racist element, although you'd definitely see it come out on occasion, but it's really more an uneducated, unsophisticated, never been out of the County you were born in unless you got picked up by Johnny Law and had to appear in District Court kind of element.

He wasn't talking about Blacksburg alone. He specifically said the DC area and named a few predominantly black areas of certain cities which were exempt.... And I live inside the City of Richmond not the suburbs though I own a house in the suburbs.

 

[RVACane]

No disrespect to you of course, [MENTION=14474]g8rh8rMD[/MENTION]. I'm a fan of yours. He wrote it the way he did though.

 

[Tonio]

I mean for whatever it is worth, Vegas put out odds for the next UF coach and Fuente wasn't listed. Mullen is the favorite with Frost and Norvell right after him.

 

[RVACane]

Florida isn’t any type of blue blood program. You take out Urban Meyer and they’re a perennial 9 win team, I would take UT or the Nebraska job before I took the UF job.

I don't really want to defend them, but that Spurrier guy was pretty good. 122-27-1 and 87-12 in the SEC.

Oh no, I’m not under playing his obvious success there but even he won 11 games or better three times and that was in ‘93, ‘95, and ‘96. The rest are 10 games or lower

Jesus, why are you making me do this

9-2, 6-1, SEC Champs (probation, no bowl), [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 3[/URL]
10-2, 7-0, SEC Champs, Sugar Bowl, #7
9-4, 6-2, SEC East Champs, Gator Bowl, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 0[/URL]
11-2, 7-1, SEC Champs, Sugar Bowl, #4
10-2-1, 7-1, SEC Champs, Sugar Bowl, #7
12-1, 8-0, SEC Champs, Fiesta Bowl, #2
12-1, 8-0, SEC Champs, National Champs, Sugar Bowl, #1
10-2, 6-2, Citrus Bowl, #4
10-2, 7-1, Orange Bowl, #5
9-4, 7-1, SEC East Champs, Citrus Bowl, #1 2
10-3, 7-1, SEC Champs, Sugar Bowl, [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=1]#1 0[/URL]
10-2, 6-2, Orange Bowl, #3

If you frame it this way ^^^^ It looks more impressive

Wow! Now that's a first!! A Canes fan being a promoter, cheerleader for the Florida Gators. Brother, I would STRONGLY recommend that you put your blue and orange pom-poms down when in the presence of "real" Canes fans. Again, WOW!!!

Fûck Florida and Nebraska. I hope they both burn in football ****.

 

[Gatorhater]

Just playing your game... IF UFelony offered Fuente the job, he'd be an idiot not to jump at that over VT in a heartbeat. He can double his salary going to Turdville.

Frankly, I think he's a better fit at Vag Tech, and my choice would be to get him out of our division. He could be a thorn in our side there for 20 years if he likes it in Deliverance country. He could succeed at UFag, but that program is badly broken, and he could just as easily get run out of town in 2-3 years.

Virginia is not Deliverance country.

Blacksburg, VA is!!!

Outside of the DC suburbs, VA is Redneck Central. (Only other exception would be the African American sections of Richmond, Newport News and that surrounding urban area.)

I've lived in metro DC and Virginia Beach and now live in a predominantly white neighborhood in Richmond. My neighbors and I are not rednecks. You don't know what you're talking about making such broad assumptions and statements.

The ignorance of yankees and other self-proclaimed wonderful people is truly amazing sometimes. People proclaim "rednecks" to be racist without realizing that is in fact a racists comment. The primary seed stock colonists to the original 13 colonies were Anglo/Saxon/Normans from England and Celtics from Scotland, Wales and Ireland. Celtics and Saxons were historic enemies who were still killing each other over Ireland 30 years ago. Saxons settled mostly in the Northern Colonies and the Celts in the South. The two regions were, therefore, settled by historic enemies with very distinct differences.

Virginia, while a Southern state was actually settled mostly by Anglicans, different from the more radical Puritans who settled in Massachusetts(both Saxons but different religions) who would have been mostly Anglo/Saxons not Celtics. Perhaps that is why they succeed only after Lincoln called for troops to invade the other Southern States. OH, IL and newer more westerns states, mostly formed from land claimed by Virginia but surrendered in 1784, were from Germany. See, we were never "one people", even without considering the slaves or the natives.

I assume with someone says "redneck" them mean peoples who would probably be of Celtic decent. The people, if white, using that word as a slur are probably of German or Viking decent(Saxons and Anglos were Germanic who invaded England slaughtering much of the native population(Celts). Normans were actually Danish Vikings who settled in conquered and settled in Normandy area of France, converted to Catholicism and then invaded and conquered Saxon England. (Hastings and all that stuff) So, the "rednecks" and other Southerners many are so happy to insult with impunity, has long experience with such race based mistreatment. It is amusing to me to hear so many issue those insults without the slightest knowledge their ancestors are among the most horrific slavers of human life and racial extermination.

For those who like to attack the Confederacy for slavery, please take note that the LAST place slavery was legal in the US was Delaware. Good old Joe Biden loving yankee as the day is long Delaware. See, Lincoln took three years to free slaves in States of the Confederacy but forgot to do so in the other slave states. Yeap, that Civil War was all about freeing the slaves. At least that is what yankee butchers and the inventors of modern "total was" plus the phase "Final Solution" like to think. See that justifies their actions that for which we would late hang Germans and Japanese.

To RVA's point, it is not even the correct racial slur to refer to Virginians as Rednecks. They were always the high society of the US. Stuffed shirts would be more accurate for those Saxon demons. I myself am half Italian and the Southern half of me is what we call "good ole boy". The lesson for the difference will have to keep for another day. For now lets go kick those VT slimbuckets in the teeth -- whatever they are and wherever they came from. One thing they are not is CANES.

 

[Doppelganger]

Hey, your buddy Piccolo is back and at it again.
See Doppelganger comments.
This dude must be a real treat around the dinner table during the holidays.

People are just incompetent *****.

I wonder what it must be like to be this pathetic that all you can do is change the subject.

 

[Doppelganger]

For those who like to attack the Confederacy for slavery, please take note that the LAST place slavery was legal in the US was Delaware. Good old Joe Biden loving yankee as the day is long Delaware.

Delaware was considered 'Southern' during the early days of the country.

As was Maryland.

Nothing Yankee about Antebellum Delaware.

 

[Doppelganger]

See, Lincoln took three years to free slaves in States of the Confederacy but forgot to do so in the other slave states.

He didn't forget to.

It was about strategy. He couldn't alienate Union states in the middle of a civil war.

But apparently only smart people understand this. Not you.

 

[Doppelganger]

[Yeap, that Civil War was all about freeing the slaves. At least that is what yankee butchers and the inventors of modern "total was" plus the phase "Final Solution" like to think.

That's what any knowledgeable and serious historian would say.

The South seceded to preserve slavery. Period. End of story.

 

[Doppelganger]

See that justifies their actions that for which we would late hang Germans and Japanese.

The Germans and Japanese invaded other countries and killed millions.

We had a civil war where the states now claiming grievance were the ones who fired shots on the federal government.

You are historically ignorant on a gigantic scale.

You're worse on this than you are one football and you're TERRIBLE on football.

 

[canecat]

Everyone here in Jax says the coach will be one of 3 guys - UCF coach , Taggert at Oregon or the new Memphis coach. I think UCF 's Frost is the best choice .

 

[canecat]

See that justifies their actions that for which we would late hang Germans and Japanese.

The Germans and Japanese invaded other countries and killed millions.

We had a civil war where the states now claiming grievance were the ones who fired shots on the federal government.

You are historically ignorant on a gigantic scale.

You're worse on this than you are one football and you're TERRIBLE on football.

It is sorta mind blowing people can know so little about important stuff like history.

 

[kryptonite]

I don't know what your problem is, I don't know why it's so important to you that we be a 2nd class program, but maybe this isn't the team for you.

I don't know what it is with you pantywaists but you just can't tolerate the truth unless it's about how great we are.

We're not a 2nd class program.

But if you took away our best 6 years like zbrod tried to do, we would be 2nd tier all-time.

Just. A. Fact.

Your whole premise is ridiculous. You want to take 6 years out of Miami's portfolio? Fine, how about 1972-78? How about we subtract 6 years from Texas, fsu, us, USC, or OSU? Would they be elite with 2 or fewer NCs?

 

[Doppelganger]

Your whole premise is ridiculous. You want to take 6 years out of Miami's portfolio?

Did you read this thread or not?

Seems like you haven't.

zbrod claimed that if you took away Urban Meyer that Florida is a 9-win program (he's even more wrong than usual since 9 wins would be among the most elite programs in the country).

I responded logically that if you did that to us then we wouldn't be elite either.