Fuente and Herman good young coaches....

Sonny Long

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but Miami cannot afford to hire either at this time. It's just Timing. Herman has not done enough, which is not his fault. He was just hired! Fuente's losing to Navy is irrelevant. He can still win his conference his conference!
 
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Agree with OP. UM has hired 3 consecutive failures with two being first time coaches and one coming from a small time program. They are going NFL or established Power 5 HC.
 
It's true if Herman only had one year to judge from. But he has years of great offenses and great QB development to observe
 
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but Miami cannot afford to hire either at this time. It's just Timing. Herman has not done enough, which is not his fault. He was just hired! Fuente's losing to Navy is irrelevant. He can still win his conference his conference!

as a gator fan i felt the same way about mac at first thought mike gundy, todd graham, hugh freeze, dan mulen, etc would be the smart way to go because their more proven but i wouldnt trade mcelwaine for any of those guys right now

id bet herman and fuente do pretty **** well where ever they end up
 
It's true if Herman only had one year to judge from. But he has years of great offenses and great QB development to observe

What great offenses and QBs? You tripping.

I'm glad you asked. I'll make the highlights bold for you

Coaching Accomplishments

• Tom Herman was named head coach at the University of Houston on Dec. 16, 2014, just one week after being named the Broyles Award winner, presented to the nation's top assistant coach.

• Herman has helped develop record-setting and explosive offenses in each of his 10 seasons as an offensive coordinator, including his three seasons as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Ohio State where he helped the Buckeyes win the 2015 College Football Championship with third-string quarterback Cardale Jones under center for the Big Ten Championship win over Wisconsin and College Football Playoff wins over Alabama and Oregon."


• Herman's 2014 Ohio State offense finished the season ranked fifth in scoring offense at 44.8 points per game and ninth in total offense at 511.6 yards per game despite losing Heisman Trophy candidate Braxton Miller prior to the season. With freshman J.T. Barrett taking over the reins just prior to the season, Herman simply molded the quarterback into a formidable leader who finished fifth in Heisman voting and was named a FWAA Freshman All-American.

• The Buckeyes claimed the 2014 Big Ten Championship and a spot in the College Football Playoff semifinals with a 59-0 win over Wisconsin as Herman's offense rolled to 558 total yards with Jones under center after an injury to J.T. Barrett in the regular-season finale.

• The offense continued to roll in Ohio State's 42-35 College Football Playoff semifinal win over Alabama. Facing a defense that entered the game ranked fourth nationally in scoring defense at 16.6 points per game, Herman's offense exploded for 42 points and 537 total yards. The balanced attack yielded 256 passing yards and 281 rushing yards.

• The College Football Playoff Championship stage was not too bright for Herman's offense as the Buckeyes rolled up 538 total yards vs. Oregon, 242 through the air and 296 on the ground, in a 42-20 win over the Ducks. The 42 points marked the most scored on Oregon in the 2014 season.

•  Herman's quarterbacks in 2014 ranked second nationally with a team passing efficiency rating of 167.72, while Barrett was second nationally with a rating of 169.8 and sixth nationally with an Ohio State record 34 passing touchdowns while also adding 11 touchdowns on the ground for a Big Ten record of 45 touchdowns responsible for. The Buckeyes' offense was sixth nationally with an average of 6.98 yards per play and second nationally with 46 plays of 30 yards or longer and 17 plays of 50 yards or longer.

• Barrett, the Big Ten's 2014 Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year, was one of four offensive players to receive All-Big Ten honors in 2014 and was the third offensive player to receive a major Big Ten award under Herman's leadership as Carlos Hyde was named the 2013 Ameche-Dayne Running Back of the Year and Miller was named the Chicago Tribune Silver Football, the Graham-George Offensive Player of the Year and the Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year in both 2012 and 2013.

• After leading the Big Ten in scoring in 2012 at 37.2 points per game and ranking 10th nationally in rushing at nearly 250 yards per game, Ohio State's offense under Herman went to a new level in 2013 by ranking third nationally in scoring with 45.5 points per game and fifth in rushing with 308.6 yards per game.

• The Buckeyes have been successful through the air as well. Among the 12 single season records to fall in 2013 were most touchdown passes (38) with top-five school totals in passing yards (2,846), attempts (368) and completions (238). Additional records were set in rushing yards in a season (4,321 yards, which also is a Big Ten Conference record), most total touchdowns (82) and most total offensive yards (7,167), yards per play (7.1) and yards per game (511.9).

• Miller finished fifth and ninth in the Heisman Trophy voting in 2012 and 2013, respectively. Additionally, he set the school record for total offense and was a finalist for the Davey O'Brien and Manning Awards in 2012 and in 2013 he led the Big Ten in passing efficiency.

Herman, who was named the 2013 Rivals.com Big Ten Recruiter of the Year and national Top 25 recruiter, arrived in Columbus after spending three years as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Iowa State.

• At Iowa State, Herman's well-balanced offense was very evident as Iowa State quarterback Austen Arnaud ended his career as the Cyclones No. 2 all-time leading passer with 6,777 yards and 42 touchdown passes ,while running back Alexander Robinson finished his Iowa State career as the Cyclones' fourth all-time leading rusher with 3,309 yards.

• Herman spent 2007 and 2008 as offensive coordinator at Rice before heading to Iowa State. During his two seasons with the Owls, his offenses broke over 40 school records and, in his second season, the Owls won 10 games and went to a bowl for the first time since 1954.

• Rice ranked in the Top 10 nationally in 2008 in passing offense (5th; 327.8), scoring offense (T-8th; 41.6) and total offense (10th; 472.3). Two Rice receivers had more than 1,300 yards receiving that year. Tight end James Casey had 111 catches. and quarterback Chase Clement was the Conference USA MVP.

• Rice's spread attack completed nearly two-thirds (65.6%) of its passes, and its touchdown-to-interception ratio of 48-to-7 was an NCAA FBS best. The quick-strike Owls had 30 scoring drives of five plays or less in 2008 and 31 scoring marches of less than two minutes.

 Prior to Rice, Herman directed offensive attacks for two years (2005-06) at Texas State, where Bobcat squads led the Southland Conference in total offense. The 2005 Texas State club was eighth nationally in scoring and made a run to the FCS semifinals in the school's first appearance in the Division 1-AA playoffs. Herman also worked four years as an assistant coach at Sam Houston State, helping them to a pair of conference titles and trips to the FCS semifinals and quarterfinals.
 
oh yeah, and he is 9-0 as a head coach. Fuente is an up and comer but Herman is a boss. I don't even feel like he is a risk. With his resume and coaching style, I'm pretty confident that he will be the next great coach in college football. You can say, it's not a good time to hire him but now is the only time he will be available for hire
 
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Problem is UM doesn't have the personnel to run the kind of system he wants at Miami. Kaaya is not fast, not athletic. Herman is not right for this program at this time.
 
It's true if Herman only had one year to judge from. But he has years of great offenses and great QB development to observe

What great offenses and QBs? You tripping.

I'm glad you asked. I'll make the highlights bold for you

Coaching Accomplishments

• Tom Herman was named head coach at the University of Houston on Dec. 16, 2014, just one week after being named the Broyles Award winner, presented to the nation's top assistant coach.

• Herman has helped develop record-setting and explosive offenses in each of his 10 seasons as an offensive coordinator, including his three seasons as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Ohio State where he helped the Buckeyes win the 2015 College Football Championship with third-string quarterback Cardale Jones under center for the Big Ten Championship win over Wisconsin and College Football Playoff wins over Alabama and Oregon."


• Herman's 2014 Ohio State offense finished the season ranked fifth in scoring offense at 44.8 points per game and ninth in total offense at 511.6 yards per game despite losing Heisman Trophy candidate Braxton Miller prior to the season. With freshman J.T. Barrett taking over the reins just prior to the season, Herman simply molded the quarterback into a formidable leader who finished fifth in Heisman voting and was named a FWAA Freshman All-American.

• The Buckeyes claimed the 2014 Big Ten Championship and a spot in the College Football Playoff semifinals with a 59-0 win over Wisconsin as Herman's offense rolled to 558 total yards with Jones under center after an injury to J.T. Barrett in the regular-season finale.

• The offense continued to roll in Ohio State's 42-35 College Football Playoff semifinal win over Alabama. Facing a defense that entered the game ranked fourth nationally in scoring defense at 16.6 points per game, Herman's offense exploded for 42 points and 537 total yards. The balanced attack yielded 256 passing yards and 281 rushing yards.

• The College Football Playoff Championship stage was not too bright for Herman's offense as the Buckeyes rolled up 538 total yards vs. Oregon, 242 through the air and 296 on the ground, in a 42-20 win over the Ducks. The 42 points marked the most scored on Oregon in the 2014 season.

•  Herman's quarterbacks in 2014 ranked second nationally with a team passing efficiency rating of 167.72, while Barrett was second nationally with a rating of 169.8 and sixth nationally with an Ohio State record 34 passing touchdowns while also adding 11 touchdowns on the ground for a Big Ten record of 45 touchdowns responsible for. The Buckeyes' offense was sixth nationally with an average of 6.98 yards per play and second nationally with 46 plays of 30 yards or longer and 17 plays of 50 yards or longer.

• Barrett, the Big Ten's 2014 Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year, was one of four offensive players to receive All-Big Ten honors in 2014 and was the third offensive player to receive a major Big Ten award under Herman's leadership as Carlos Hyde was named the 2013 Ameche-Dayne Running Back of the Year and Miller was named the Chicago Tribune Silver Football, the Graham-George Offensive Player of the Year and the Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year in both 2012 and 2013.

• After leading the Big Ten in scoring in 2012 at 37.2 points per game and ranking 10th nationally in rushing at nearly 250 yards per game, Ohio State's offense under Herman went to a new level in 2013 by ranking third nationally in scoring with 45.5 points per game and fifth in rushing with 308.6 yards per game.

• The Buckeyes have been successful through the air as well. Among the 12 single season records to fall in 2013 were most touchdown passes (38) with top-five school totals in passing yards (2,846), attempts (368) and completions (238). Additional records were set in rushing yards in a season (4,321 yards, which also is a Big Ten Conference record), most total touchdowns (82) and most total offensive yards (7,167), yards per play (7.1) and yards per game (511.9).

• Miller finished fifth and ninth in the Heisman Trophy voting in 2012 and 2013, respectively. Additionally, he set the school record for total offense and was a finalist for the Davey O'Brien and Manning Awards in 2012 and in 2013 he led the Big Ten in passing efficiency.

Herman, who was named the 2013 Rivals.com Big Ten Recruiter of the Year and national Top 25 recruiter, arrived in Columbus after spending three years as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Iowa State.

• At Iowa State, Herman's well-balanced offense was very evident as Iowa State quarterback Austen Arnaud ended his career as the Cyclones No. 2 all-time leading passer with 6,777 yards and 42 touchdown passes ,while running back Alexander Robinson finished his Iowa State career as the Cyclones' fourth all-time leading rusher with 3,309 yards.

• Herman spent 2007 and 2008 as offensive coordinator at Rice before heading to Iowa State. During his two seasons with the Owls, his offenses broke over 40 school records and, in his second season, the Owls won 10 games and went to a bowl for the first time since 1954.

• Rice ranked in the Top 10 nationally in 2008 in passing offense (5th; 327.8), scoring offense (T-8th; 41.6) and total offense (10th; 472.3). Two Rice receivers had more than 1,300 yards receiving that year. Tight end James Casey had 111 catches. and quarterback Chase Clement was the Conference USA MVP.

• Rice's spread attack completed nearly two-thirds (65.6%) of its passes, and its touchdown-to-interception ratio of 48-to-7 was an NCAA FBS best. The quick-strike Owls had 30 scoring drives of five plays or less in 2008 and 31 scoring marches of less than two minutes.

 Prior to Rice, Herman directed offensive attacks for two years (2005-06) at Texas State, where Bobcat squads led the Southland Conference in total offense. The 2005 Texas State club was eighth nationally in scoring and made a run to the FCS semifinals in the school's first appearance in the Division 1-AA playoffs. Herman also worked four years as an assistant coach at Sam Houston State, helping them to a pair of conference titles and trips to the FCS semifinals and quarterfinals.

Like a Puppet!

ALL BULLSH*T.......................Those were other HC's teams and players!
 
Like a Puppet!

ALL BULLSH*T.......................Those were other HC's teams and players!

Oh sure, it's just a wild coincidence that all of the QB's did well and the offenses were much better while he was there. Not because he was in charge of the offense or anything.
 
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Problem is UM doesn't have the personnel to run the kind of system he wants at Miami. Kaaya is not fast, not athletic. Herman is not right for this program at this time.

Herman's track record with QB's suggests he can use more than one type of guy. Every where he has been, the running backs have done very well also.
 
Good coaches work with what they have plus Kaaya might be gone at the end of next season

Herman would win the coastal div with the talent on this offense
 
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Herman is the truth.
He was drilled by Urban Meyer for 12 hours before he hired him. He spent 3 years under him. he is an Alpha male and his personality and demeanor is contagious. He's a certified genius as a member of MENSA. He is up to speed with today's game. He would kill it down here.
 
It's true if Herman only had one year to judge from. But he has years of great offenses and great QB development to observe

Couldn't you say the same about Larry Coker? Herman will be much happier taking the Miami job after Butch rebuilds and wins a NC.
 
Herman over Fuente. Can't compare Herman risk to the hires of Coker, Shannon, and Golden in my opinion. Golden has got you all scared like pansies.

And also every other coach you guys **** on or think freaking crap like we should go after Saban, Kelly, Meyer, Patterson... But the realistic coaches like Chud, Schiano, Pagano, Jackson, etc you guys **** on. So who else is there? Because all I see are the same names followed by moaning and groaning or stupid comments like Tressel, Gundy, etc. I'm not saying you don't at least call their agents but lets be honest here on who the realistic candidates are.
 
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It's true if Herman only had one year to judge from. But he has years of great offenses and great QB development to observe

What great offenses and QBs? You tripping.

I'm glad you asked. I'll make the highlights bold for you

Coaching Accomplishments

• Tom Herman was named head coach at the University of Houston on Dec. 16, 2014, just one week after being named the Broyles Award winner, presented to the nation's top assistant coach.

• Herman has helped develop record-setting and explosive offenses in each of his 10 seasons as an offensive coordinator, including his three seasons as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Ohio State where he helped the Buckeyes win the 2015 College Football Championship with third-string quarterback Cardale Jones under center for the Big Ten Championship win over Wisconsin and College Football Playoff wins over Alabama and Oregon."


• Herman's 2014 Ohio State offense finished the season ranked fifth in scoring offense at 44.8 points per game and ninth in total offense at 511.6 yards per game despite losing Heisman Trophy candidate Braxton Miller prior to the season. With freshman J.T. Barrett taking over the reins just prior to the season, Herman simply molded the quarterback into a formidable leader who finished fifth in Heisman voting and was named a FWAA Freshman All-American.

• The Buckeyes claimed the 2014 Big Ten Championship and a spot in the College Football Playoff semifinals with a 59-0 win over Wisconsin as Herman's offense rolled to 558 total yards with Jones under center after an injury to J.T. Barrett in the regular-season finale.

• The offense continued to roll in Ohio State's 42-35 College Football Playoff semifinal win over Alabama. Facing a defense that entered the game ranked fourth nationally in scoring defense at 16.6 points per game, Herman's offense exploded for 42 points and 537 total yards. The balanced attack yielded 256 passing yards and 281 rushing yards.

• The College Football Playoff Championship stage was not too bright for Herman's offense as the Buckeyes rolled up 538 total yards vs. Oregon, 242 through the air and 296 on the ground, in a 42-20 win over the Ducks. The 42 points marked the most scored on Oregon in the 2014 season.

•  Herman's quarterbacks in 2014 ranked second nationally with a team passing efficiency rating of 167.72, while Barrett was second nationally with a rating of 169.8 and sixth nationally with an Ohio State record 34 passing touchdowns while also adding 11 touchdowns on the ground for a Big Ten record of 45 touchdowns responsible for. The Buckeyes' offense was sixth nationally with an average of 6.98 yards per play and second nationally with 46 plays of 30 yards or longer and 17 plays of 50 yards or longer.

• Barrett, the Big Ten's 2014 Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year, was one of four offensive players to receive All-Big Ten honors in 2014 and was the third offensive player to receive a major Big Ten award under Herman's leadership as Carlos Hyde was named the 2013 Ameche-Dayne Running Back of the Year and Miller was named the Chicago Tribune Silver Football, the Graham-George Offensive Player of the Year and the Griese-Brees Quarterback of the Year in both 2012 and 2013.

• After leading the Big Ten in scoring in 2012 at 37.2 points per game and ranking 10th nationally in rushing at nearly 250 yards per game, Ohio State's offense under Herman went to a new level in 2013 by ranking third nationally in scoring with 45.5 points per game and fifth in rushing with 308.6 yards per game.

• The Buckeyes have been successful through the air as well. Among the 12 single season records to fall in 2013 were most touchdown passes (38) with top-five school totals in passing yards (2,846), attempts (368) and completions (238). Additional records were set in rushing yards in a season (4,321 yards, which also is a Big Ten Conference record), most total touchdowns (82) and most total offensive yards (7,167), yards per play (7.1) and yards per game (511.9).

• Miller finished fifth and ninth in the Heisman Trophy voting in 2012 and 2013, respectively. Additionally, he set the school record for total offense and was a finalist for the Davey O'Brien and Manning Awards in 2012 and in 2013 he led the Big Ten in passing efficiency.

Herman, who was named the 2013 Rivals.com Big Ten Recruiter of the Year and national Top 25 recruiter, arrived in Columbus after spending three years as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Iowa State.

• At Iowa State, Herman's well-balanced offense was very evident as Iowa State quarterback Austen Arnaud ended his career as the Cyclones No. 2 all-time leading passer with 6,777 yards and 42 touchdown passes ,while running back Alexander Robinson finished his Iowa State career as the Cyclones' fourth all-time leading rusher with 3,309 yards.

• Herman spent 2007 and 2008 as offensive coordinator at Rice before heading to Iowa State. During his two seasons with the Owls, his offenses broke over 40 school records and, in his second season, the Owls won 10 games and went to a bowl for the first time since 1954.

• Rice ranked in the Top 10 nationally in 2008 in passing offense (5th; 327.8), scoring offense (T-8th; 41.6) and total offense (10th; 472.3). Two Rice receivers had more than 1,300 yards receiving that year. Tight end James Casey had 111 catches. and quarterback Chase Clement was the Conference USA MVP.

• Rice's spread attack completed nearly two-thirds (65.6%) of its passes, and its touchdown-to-interception ratio of 48-to-7 was an NCAA FBS best. The quick-strike Owls had 30 scoring drives of five plays or less in 2008 and 31 scoring marches of less than two minutes.

 Prior to Rice, Herman directed offensive attacks for two years (2005-06) at Texas State, where Bobcat squads led the Southland Conference in total offense. The 2005 Texas State club was eighth nationally in scoring and made a run to the FCS semifinals in the school's first appearance in the Division 1-AA playoffs. Herman also worked four years as an assistant coach at Sam Houston State, helping them to a pair of conference titles and trips to the FCS semifinals and quarterfinals.

Dang! Are this guy's agent or something. I don't have that much data on myself! Look dude is very interesting but Miami outside of Urban himself or Saban, these is no coach Miami can take a chance on if Butch is available. The program is at stake here. We have made 3 bad hires in a row. Butch, while not as successful other places, has proven that when here at THE U, he puts talent on the field beyond belief. Not just good talent, not just great talent but talent that doesn't even need a coach -- see Larry Coker. Butch did it for JJ and left it for Dennis and again for Coker.

His background data is: While at THE U as assistant and, or Head Coach, the players he recruited won 4 of that schools 5 National Titles under three different head coaches ranging from one of the best ever, to a drunk, to one of the worse ever. See with Butch, we don't need no "great" coach. We only need some more players like his 29 first round draft picks and disgusting number of lower round NFL greats. Now what the heck has this Herman dude actually done where the menfolk play? Save him to follow in Butch's footsteps.
 
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