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Franklin Fired at PSU

NIL has changed expectations.
Boosters/collectives now have leverage over Athletic Departments because they pay for the teams.

Do I think PSU made a mistake, if they end up with a head scratching replacement? Yes.

But, it’s not pre NIL anymore where programs that want to win, will give a HC a long leash. Heck, we’ve seen HC’s shytcanned or run off pre NIL who had recently won championships (Orgeron, Chizik), or had won as consistently as Franklin, with a better record against Top 20 teams (Richt, Tuberville).

It’s essentially Semi-Pro ball now, so HC’s are going to be treated more and more like NFL HC’s because they are making 10x what they made just a decade ago.

The NFL has for a long time had a short memory and a “what have you done for me lately”, attitude. Marty Schottenheimer was fired by Art Modell after taking the lowly Browns to two AFCCG’s and two playoffs in his last 4 years. A team that hadn’t played in a Championship game the prior 20 years or since.

Just look at attitudes here, most posters seem to feel that if Mario didn’t rebuild in 4 years and make the NC or at least deep into the playoffs, it would be a failure. I don’t share that view, but it seems to be the consensus.

If Day hadn’t won the NC last year and lost to Michigan again this year, he would probably be in the hot seat.

PSU has had a cupcake schedule in most of the last few years. All they had to do, in the view of Boosters and the Athletic Department was beat OSU and Michigan. This year they were a preseason Top 5 team and lost three games and to two unranked teams in a row.

Miami fans wanted Coker’s head on a platter in 2005, after a 9-3 record because we got dragged by LSU in the Peach Bowl. 3 years after playing in the NC, getting robbed and beating our arch rivals in Bowl games the two previous years.

Why do we have high expectations and not expect other former powerhouse programs to feel the same?
 
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Brickell said:
If it's not Cignetti, it might get ugly. They can't pay 50 million dollars in buyout money just to get Matt Campbell or Matt Rhule - who are marginal improvements at best.
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It’s not going to be Cignetti. From good sauces he’s not entertaining leaving IU but will be getting an adjustment to market/performance and maybe an extension. Contract update probably will be announced relatively soon but it won’t be a “he’s staying” type announcement because he doesn’t want to imply he was ever considering leaving.
 
Cignetti wouldn't leave. He'll get the kind of extension that would allow IU to become a real threat to the Buckeye's dominance of the B1G.

Cignetti wants to become the Woody Hayes of Bloomington.

The more problems for Buckeye Nation, the better it is for the Canes. Especially when it comes to Recruiting. Taint hasn't had to fight off Indiana before. Now it does. The Recruits are going to hear about Cignetti and the way he develops players and are going to start choosing him over Columbus.

Buckeye Tears all around. Music to my ears.
 
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YankeesCane said:
Absolutely egregious the money thesse guys get, generational, for being bad at their jobs

He, Norvell, Napier, Jimbo

Yeah, make the argument they made the school money but to get that type of money for being at best mediocre is an insult to real hard working people

Take these guys out of the vacuum that is the profession, they'd all be regular people
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I don't disagree that they make too much, but not many professions have the hours requirements of high level (nfl and most colleges) football coaches. Even the low level GAs don't have personal lives.
 
flips said:
Firing Franklin, because the goal is to win a championship doesn't make sense to me after seeing the names tied to the opening.

Franklin made the playoff and won two games last year. No one on their radar has that resume. Cignetti, who is a great coach, doesn't. Matt Rhule, Matt Campbell, or Manny Diaz - lol. Franklin lead them to the best season they've had in 20-30 years, and he was fired 10 months later. Their program has challenged for the title once a decade over the last 40 years (when they're not on probation for covering up their rape-o Defensive Coordinator's pedophilia). That's what Franklin did too.

I think they fired him when they did, because they had spent a bajillon dollars in the off-season on coordinators and transfer portal players, and they were out of playoff contention after 6 games. With how large the tiered playoff payouts are, and with the move by conferences to financially reward terms based on performance, this will likely keep happening at big-spending P4 (especially P2) schools.

Franklin also wasn't part of the JoePa cult, and those lunatics in Happy Valley cannot be happy that they have had to spend the better part of the last 15 years acting as though their program's history didn't exist. I think they hire Rhule. Good luck to their AD trying to explain how Rhule gives them a better chance to win a championship than Franklin did.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it’s Cignetti or bust for them. He’s the home run higher. Doesn’t mean he’ll ever win a championship but that’s who I think they believe is the guy that can bring them there.
 
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dycane said:
He’s not a championship coach because he hasn’t won one yet? Who the **** would’ve won a ‘ship there on the heels of Sandusky, during a pre-NIL period where the SEC and OSU were buying all the players? He’s had PSU close in the new era of football, maybe just a QB away.

Is Jimbo a better coach, or Larry Coker for that matter, because they won a championship?

I don’t get what separates a championship coach from otherwise very good coaches, I guess.
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Point is this, this year was supposed to be their year and we see how that’s turned out. The other time that it was supposed to be their year, was in 2017 and they just couldn’t get by Ohio State that year. End of the day, when you get your shot, you have to take it and win it. If not, then eventually you just looked upon is not the guy. I think that’s what’s happening with him but with that said, he is a very good coach.
 
skydogcane6 said:
Based on what
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Based on what? Lol I have to explain that to you man, then clearly you’re just not watching college football too in depth if I have to explain Indiana versus Penn State to you. Smh now that doesn’t mean Cignetti’s going to take the job, but in the grand scheme of things, I would say Penn State is clearly the better job than Indiana based on the history of college football.
 
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