Former Miami Players Chance at HOF (ESPN Barnwell)

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Projecting future NFL Hall of Famers - Will Eli Manning of New York Giants, Cam Newton of Carolina Panthers make Pro Football Hall of Fame?

Miami Players

1-10 percent: Calais Campbell is supremely underrated, but he doesn't accrue any stats and has just two Pro Bowl appearances as he turns 30.

1-10 percent: Greg Olsen was anonymous for the first six seasons of his career before becoming a bigger part of the offense after his move to Carolina. At 31, he would need to keep this level of play up for several more years to have a shot.

1 to 10 percent: Jimmy Graham suffered a ruptured patella last season, an injury that holds the league's worst rate of long-term recovery. The injury has seemed to sap the athleticism of similarly scarred players. Graham's outlook has drastically changed over the past two years; he has gone from the prime of his career as the focal point of the Saints' offense to a question mark as just another part of the Seattle offense

1 to 10 percent: Vince Wilfork made five Pro Bowls and won two Super Bowls, but nose tackles -- even great nose tackles -- do not do well through this process.

Andre Johnson was a disappointment during his lone season in Indianapolis and might struggle to make an impact down the depth chart in Tennessee, but what he did with Matt Schaub as his primary quarterback all those years in Houston should be enough to make the Hall. Johnson made seven Pro Bowls and was a first-team All-Pro twice, which is usually enough for skill-position players to eventually work their way into Canton. It helps that he'll finish his career in the top 10 in receptions and receiving yards, although he'll likely fall out of those rankings by the time he's eligible for selection. 75 percent

Other Interesting Players That Have Some Kind of Connection to Miami

Patrick Peterson is off to about as good of a start to a career as you can imagine. During his first five seasons, the former LSU star has made five Pro Bowls and been named a first-team All-Pro three times (once for his return work). Only 12 HOF-eligible players since the merger have made it to the Pro Bowl in each of their first five seasons, and eight were enshrined. Patrick Willis will probably make it nine. Peterson's still just 26 years old, so he might have this locked up before turning 30. 70 percent

1-10 percent: LeSean McCoy made it to the Pro Bowl despite running for just 895 yards last season, which made it his fourth, but he will need to produce at least two more dominant seasons like the one he rolled off in 2013 before seriously forming a Hall of Fame case.

Anquan Boldin might be a Hall of Very Good player, which is less a reflection on him and more a comment on how stacked the receiving classes are going to be in the modern NFL. It hurts a bit that Boldin's most productive seasons came at the very beginning of his career and are easier to forget than a late-career spike would be. He'll finish his career toward the bottom of the top 20 in receptions and receiving yards, but he might not have accumulated quite enough to make it into the Hall. 40 percent.

1 to 10 percent: T.Y. Hilton has a few years of playing as Andrew Luck's No. 1 receiver ahead of him, which should keep his numbers high.

Antonio Brown is one of the toughest people to slap a number on for this piece. He has been incredible over the past three seasons -- so incredible that it's basically unprecedented -- but he's still so young that he can't be considered a lock for the Hall. Brown's not in the top 100 in receptions or receiving yards, although he should get there this season. Brown is on a Hall of Fame career path, but if things went south quickly, I don't know that he has done enough to guarantee anything as of yet. Of course, if what Brown has done isn't enough, I don't think anybody outside of J.J. Watt could have locked things up this quickly. 80 percent.

1 to 10 percent: Jameis Winston didn't amaze anybody during an up-and-down rookie season, but he didn't do anything to sabotage his chances, either. First overall picks will get plenty of opportunities to prove themselves, to which Sam Bradford can attest.

I hope this can lead to some interesting, but respectful debate. The biggest disagreement I have is Wilfork. I don't think he'll make it, but his chances are better than what Barnwell says.
 
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Reggie must be a lock if he isn't mentioned. I think Gore could be a lock if he rushes for 700 yds this year. Andre should get in. I think Wilfork works his way in, I also think Hester gets it. The rest I agree with.
 
Vince Wilfork is a hall of famer. He is a lock no question. He is one of the best two-gapper ever.
 
Projecting future NFL Hall of Famers - Will Eli Manning of New York Giants, Cam Newton of Carolina Panthers make Pro Football Hall of Fame?

Miami Players

1-10 percent: Calais Campbell is supremely underrated, but he doesn't accrue any stats and has just two Pro Bowl appearances as he turns 30.

1-10 percent: Greg Olsen was anonymous for the first six seasons of his career before becoming a bigger part of the offense after his move to Carolina. At 31, he would need to keep this level of play up for several more years to have a shot.

1 to 10 percent: Jimmy Graham suffered a ruptured patella last season, an injury that holds the league's worst rate of long-term recovery. The injury has seemed to sap the athleticism of similarly scarred players. Graham's outlook has drastically changed over the past two years; he has gone from the prime of his career as the focal point of the Saints' offense to a question mark as just another part of the Seattle offense

1 to 10 percent: Vince Wilfork made five Pro Bowls and won two Super Bowls, but nose tackles -- even great nose tackles -- do not do well through this process.

Andre Johnson was a disappointment during his lone season in Indianapolis and might struggle to make an impact down the depth chart in Tennessee, but what he did with Matt Schaub as his primary quarterback all those years in Houston should be enough to make the Hall. Johnson made seven Pro Bowls and was a first-team All-Pro twice, which is usually enough for skill-position players to eventually work their way into Canton. It helps that he'll finish his career in the top 10 in receptions and receiving yards, although he'll likely fall out of those rankings by the time he's eligible for selection. 75 percent

Other Interesting Players That Have Some Kind of Connection to Miami

Patrick Peterson is off to about as good of a start to a career as you can imagine. During his first five seasons, the former LSU star has made five Pro Bowls and been named a first-team All-Pro three times (once for his return work). Only 12 HOF-eligible players since the merger have made it to the Pro Bowl in each of their first five seasons, and eight were enshrined. Patrick Willis will probably make it nine. Peterson's still just 26 years old, so he might have this locked up before turning 30. 70 percent

1-10 percent: LeSean McCoy made it to the Pro Bowl despite running for just 895 yards last season, which made it his fourth, but he will need to produce at least two more dominant seasons like the one he rolled off in 2013 before seriously forming a Hall of Fame case.

Anquan Boldin might be a Hall of Very Good player, which is less a reflection on him and more a comment on how stacked the receiving classes are going to be in the modern NFL. It hurts a bit that Boldin's most productive seasons came at the very beginning of his career and are easier to forget than a late-career spike would be. He'll finish his career toward the bottom of the top 20 in receptions and receiving yards, but he might not have accumulated quite enough to make it into the Hall. 40 percent.

1 to 10 percent: T.Y. Hilton has a few years of playing as Andrew Luck's No. 1 receiver ahead of him, which should keep his numbers high.

Antonio Brown is one of the toughest people to slap a number on for this piece. He has been incredible over the past three seasons -- so incredible that it's basically unprecedented -- but he's still so young that he can't be considered a lock for the Hall. Brown's not in the top 100 in receptions or receiving yards, although he should get there this season. Brown is on a Hall of Fame career path, but if things went south quickly, I don't know that he has done enough to guarantee anything as of yet. Of course, if what Brown has done isn't enough, I don't think anybody outside of J.J. Watt could have locked things up this quickly. 80 percent.

1 to 10 percent: Jameis Winston didn't amaze anybody during an up-and-down rookie season, but he didn't do anything to sabotage his chances, either. First overall picks will get plenty of opportunities to prove themselves, to which Sam Bradford can attest.

I hope this can lead to some interesting, but respectful debate. The biggest disagreement I have is Wilfork. I don't think he'll make it, but his chances are better than what Barnwell says.



How the **** do these other guys have "connections" to miami?
 
They gave Fitzgerald a 95% and Dre is higher in yards and receptions also has more first team all pro selections.

If Dre could have 2 years with at least the production he had with the colts he'd be 3rd in receptions and 5th in yards all time. I'd say he's higher than 75%.

Its not his fault he had to play with ****** QBs. When he finally got the chance to have a good QB he gets hurt and Dre gets stuck with a 50 year old Matt Hassellback, Ryan lindley and Josh Freeman
 
Vince Wilfork is a hall of famer. He is a lock no question. He is one of the best two-gapper ever.

And played for the best team of the era. Easy, easy first ballot HOF. Guys like that just don't come along very often.
 
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HOF for NFL is something i have kind of obsessed over a bit in recent years due to an argument i had with friends about Jerome Bettis making the hall and Edge not. To me, it wasn't even close..and Bettis, did wind up making it in, just barely. But that guy was very average for a lot of his career. To be a hall of famer in any sport really- you should be the top of your position, or right there close to it, for several years. Bettis just played in the league a long *** time. where as Edge was dominant. The best running back possibly in the league for many years.

So as to this guys list. I am totally with you guys on Wilfork. He fits the mold of a hall of famer. He dominated his position for a long time. and a big winner. So this guy is crazy with his prediction on wilfork.

and how the F did he miss Gore. and Gore is getting in. I even think Portis' carreer should be looked at..as well as Moss.. THose two i would have at a lower chance..but if you look at what they did for as long as they did..it gets interesting. Steve Smith was better than Santana.. but not by that much.. And steve smith was incredible.

Then you got Wayne,.he gets in , right? Reed for sure.


So we should be looking at on the conservative side

Edge,
Wayne
Reed
Wilfork
Gore


and then there are other guys that had outstanding careers but for one reason or another aren;t gonna get in ...like vilma and of course sean (and jerome) RI.P.
 
HOF for NFL is something i have kind of obsessed over a bit in recent years due to an argument i had with friends about Jerome Bettis making the hall and Edge not. To me, it wasn't even close..and Bettis, did wind up making it in, just barely. But that guy was very average for a lot of his career. To be a hall of famer in any sport really- you should be the top of your position, or right there close to it, for several years. Bettis just played in the league a long *** time. where as Edge was dominant. The best running back possibly in the league for many years.

So as to this guys list. I am totally with you guys on Wilfork. He fits the mold of a hall of famer. He dominated his position for a long time. and a big winner. So this guy is crazy with his prediction on wilfork.

and how the F did he miss Gore. and Gore is getting in. I even think Portis' carreer should be looked at..as well as Moss.. THose two i would have at a lower chance..but if you look at what they did for as long as they did..it gets interesting. Steve Smith was better than Santana.. but not by that much.. And steve smith was incredible.

Then you got Wayne,.he gets in , right? Reed for sure.


So we should be looking at on the conservative side

Edge,
Wayne
Reed
Wilfork
Gore


and then there are other guys that had outstanding careers but for one reason or another aren;t gonna get in ...like vilma and of course sean (and jerome) RI.P.

and i forgot about who he said. ha. andre.. add andre
 
Projecting future NFL Hall of Famers - Will Eli Manning of New York Giants, Cam Newton of Carolina Panthers make Pro Football Hall of Fame?

Miami Players

1-10 percent: Calais Campbell is supremely underrated, but he doesn't accrue any stats and has just two Pro Bowl appearances as he turns 30.

1-10 percent: Greg Olsen was anonymous for the first six seasons of his career before becoming a bigger part of the offense after his move to Carolina. At 31, he would need to keep this level of play up for several more years to have a shot.

1 to 10 percent: Jimmy Graham suffered a ruptured patella last season, an injury that holds the league's worst rate of long-term recovery. The injury has seemed to sap the athleticism of similarly scarred players. Graham's outlook has drastically changed over the past two years; he has gone from the prime of his career as the focal point of the Saints' offense to a question mark as just another part of the Seattle offense

1 to 10 percent: Vince Wilfork made five Pro Bowls and won two Super Bowls, but nose tackles -- even great nose tackles -- do not do well through this process.

Andre Johnson was a disappointment during his lone season in Indianapolis and might struggle to make an impact down the depth chart in Tennessee, but what he did with Matt Schaub as his primary quarterback all those years in Houston should be enough to make the Hall. Johnson made seven Pro Bowls and was a first-team All-Pro twice, which is usually enough for skill-position players to eventually work their way into Canton. It helps that he'll finish his career in the top 10 in receptions and receiving yards, although he'll likely fall out of those rankings by the time he's eligible for selection. 75 percent

Other Interesting Players That Have Some Kind of Connection to Miami

Patrick Peterson is off to about as good of a start to a career as you can imagine. During his first five seasons, the former LSU star has made five Pro Bowls and been named a first-team All-Pro three times (once for his return work). Only 12 HOF-eligible players since the merger have made it to the Pro Bowl in each of their first five seasons, and eight were enshrined. Patrick Willis will probably make it nine. Peterson's still just 26 years old, so he might have this locked up before turning 30. 70 percent

1-10 percent: LeSean McCoy made it to the Pro Bowl despite running for just 895 yards last season, which made it his fourth, but he will need to produce at least two more dominant seasons like the one he rolled off in 2013 before seriously forming a Hall of Fame case.

Anquan Boldin might be a Hall of Very Good player, which is less a reflection on him and more a comment on how stacked the receiving classes are going to be in the modern NFL. It hurts a bit that Boldin's most productive seasons came at the very beginning of his career and are easier to forget than a late-career spike would be. He'll finish his career toward the bottom of the top 20 in receptions and receiving yards, but he might not have accumulated quite enough to make it into the Hall. 40 percent.

1 to 10 percent: T.Y. Hilton has a few years of playing as Andrew Luck's No. 1 receiver ahead of him, which should keep his numbers high.

Antonio Brown is one of the toughest people to slap a number on for this piece. He has been incredible over the past three seasons -- so incredible that it's basically unprecedented -- but he's still so young that he can't be considered a lock for the Hall. Brown's not in the top 100 in receptions or receiving yards, although he should get there this season. Brown is on a Hall of Fame career path, but if things went south quickly, I don't know that he has done enough to guarantee anything as of yet. Of course, if what Brown has done isn't enough, I don't think anybody outside of J.J. Watt could have locked things up this quickly. 80 percent.

1 to 10 percent: Jameis Winston didn't amaze anybody during an up-and-down rookie season, but he didn't do anything to sabotage his chances, either. First overall picks will get plenty of opportunities to prove themselves, to which Sam Bradford can attest.

I hope this can lead to some interesting, but respectful debate. The biggest disagreement I have is Wilfork. I don't think he'll make it, but his chances are better than what Barnwell says.



How the **** do these other guys have "connections" to miami?

Some of them are from the Miami area, others were committed to Miami at some point, and I threw Wintson in just because.
 
Hester is a HOFer. Can't leave the greatest return man ever out of Canton. Maybe not first ballot, but he should get in
 
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