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Hey Maude’s, which previously band poster was this? Or do you think maybe it is some rival POS?
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Hey Maude’s, which previously band poster was this? Or do you think maybe it is some rival POS?
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KevinCaneFace
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Manny won 7 games with Tyler playing at an all pro level for half the season.
5 wins isn't a huge drop off during a culture reset especially when you rely on backup QB play for half the games.
Manny had his time. He was here for 6 years.
Mario's been here for 1.5
Sit back and watch
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Don't really care enough to track. Historically, the month before the season starts there's a parade of new posters that skew towards trolls and previously banned jackasses.
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It's more than they went from 7 wins to 5 wins. It's the manner in which the team played. Outside of Alabama who was lightyears ahead of us, every game in 2021 was competitive. The team never quit. Not when D'Eriq King went down. Not when they started 2-4. And not after losing to Florida State. That team had tons of holes but a least played hard.
Last year's team got blown out by MTSU, Duke, Clemson, Pitt and FSU. The team quit last year. Players hated coaches and coaches hated other coaches.
Thankfully most of the problems aren't here anymore so we should se a big improvement. But let's not pretend that the 2022 season was almost the same thing as 2021.
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2021 was Manny’s 6th year. It should have been rolling. He should have thrived. Yet the wheels were coming off. The only thing he had going was Lashlee and he was leaving.
Mario made mistakes at coordinator in 2022 but it’s his first year here. Big change of culture and an awful injury bug. It’s gonna be his worst season at Miami
You’re comparing one coaches peak to another’s valley and they aren’t too far off
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2021 was Manny's third as a head coach and 2022 was Mario's 10th.
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thats not true. that was mannys third season as an HC (richt was the HC before that). mario HCed for 10 years unless you want to include all of his coaching stops like you just did with manny being an assistant.
either way, 2021 sucked. 2022 was the worst season in over 30 years.
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Watch? Last year was unwatchable and the culture toxicity was in a large part to Mario’s atrocious coaching staff not working well together or with the players…
Mario had the same TVD, decided to run an offense that didn’t work for that skill set…
Manny wasn’t the HC for 6 years, yet Mario made rookie mistakes last year as a veteran HC…
Spin. Zone….
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Manny recruited the defense for 6 years and it was trash.
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Firing won't change the mediocrity.
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Hopefully Mario’s 3rd year is comparable to Mike Norvell’s.
Norvell’s first two seasons were hot garbage.
His 3rd was pretty decent. His QB suddenly woke up.
At least in year 3 Mario would have a full cupboard of talent.
Norvell’s first two seasons were hot garbage.
His 3rd was pretty decent. His QB suddenly woke up.
At least in year 3 Mario would have a full cupboard of talent.
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Last year was borderline pathetic. No reason to sugar coat it. Especially for a team that supposedly had so much talent. Reminded all of us the same movie we’ve watched for too many seasons now.
With that being said there is a silver lining similar to our previous season that freed us from manny and flake.
As hard as it was to watch and albeit most likely inadvertent, sometimes things need to first be destroyed in order to be rebuilt.
I prefer tarring out the guts and building it back brick by brick than to have out-schemed mediocre teams for 8 wins. The viscous cycle has to come to an end.
The homes are excited about culture change, DVD playing like he did with Rhett. Finally a potent offensive line, some depth at RB, a healthy X and a possible WR1 with a speedster that can take the top off as well as Mark Fletcher.
Kam, LT and JW on defense with a good blend of experience and talent . Finally a dependable and athletic MLB a possible CB1 replacement and Ruben Bain and JT as a coach.
The mops are concerned about depth at QB, star power at WR. Health at TE. Stopping the run and NIL. They need to see it to believe it.
I understand both sides.
Hoping for progress in the most important areas:
Tackling
Penalties
Mentality
Effort
Finally out scheming the other coaches again.
Defeating the teams we are supposed to and fighting to the death to try and win the ones we’re not. That is all I ask.
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With that being said there is a silver lining similar to our previous season that freed us from manny and flake.
As hard as it was to watch and albeit most likely inadvertent, sometimes things need to first be destroyed in order to be rebuilt.
I prefer tarring out the guts and building it back brick by brick than to have out-schemed mediocre teams for 8 wins. The viscous cycle has to come to an end.
The homes are excited about culture change, DVD playing like he did with Rhett. Finally a potent offensive line, some depth at RB, a healthy X and a possible WR1 with a speedster that can take the top off as well as Mark Fletcher.
Kam, LT and JW on defense with a good blend of experience and talent . Finally a dependable and athletic MLB a possible CB1 replacement and Ruben Bain and JT as a coach.
The mops are concerned about depth at QB, star power at WR. Health at TE. Stopping the run and NIL. They need to see it to believe it.
I understand both sides.
Hoping for progress in the most important areas:
Tackling
Penalties
Mentality
Effort
Finally out scheming the other coaches again.
Defeating the teams we are supposed to and fighting to the death to try and win the ones we’re not. That is all I ask.
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Do we still believe Mario is a recruiting gawd? Asking for a friend.
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When Manny Diaz had a rough start, Nick Saban was referred to.
When Al Golden had a rough start, Nick Saban was referred to.
Please for the love of god, stop. It's not the same. Two completely different coaches in two completely different situations, IN TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONFERENCES, WITH TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT UNIVERSITIES, AND TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BOOSTER SITUATIONS.
STOP.
Tom Herman formerly of Texas had a rough start like Nick Saban. I say formerly because his *** WAS FIRED.
Manny Diaz was Manny Diaz.
Al Golden was Al Golden.
And Mario Cristobal is going to be Mario Cristobal. Whether that's a good or a bad thing, the jury is still out on that.
When Al Golden had a rough start, Nick Saban was referred to.
Please for the love of god, stop. It's not the same. Two completely different coaches in two completely different situations, IN TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONFERENCES, WITH TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT UNIVERSITIES, AND TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BOOSTER SITUATIONS.
STOP.
Tom Herman formerly of Texas had a rough start like Nick Saban. I say formerly because his *** WAS FIRED.
Manny Diaz was Manny Diaz.
Al Golden was Al Golden.
And Mario Cristobal is going to be Mario Cristobal. Whether that's a good or a bad thing, the jury is still out on that.
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Those bashing Mario now have the same shallow mindset as fans in the Butch era who wanted to run Butch out of town at the beginning. They even flew a plane at a home game carrying a flag with the inscription “From champs to chimps.” They called him poor game day coach blah blah blah. Today the same fans see Butch as the goat.
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Nope. I had arguments with Paul Dee about Butch. I wanted him fired. You forget about how VT embarrassed him. He NEVER won a ring as a HC. NEVER . And the day after he left, Paul sent me an email saying simply, “You were right.” Butch could evaluate, and he could recruit. He was a very poor game coach. He went to a league where he had equal talent and got embarrassed. That’s not the goat.
So far Mario has lived up to part of his reputation-he is a poor game coach. He brought us 5-7 which is two games worse than got Manny fired. And he has gotten us to a top 20 recruiting class! Oh great, that is also poorer than Manny got us…….I hope we go 15-0 this year, but we all know that will not happen so I just pray we don’t get embarrassed by FSU, Duke, and Temple………oh and it would be nice if our QB recruit could become the starter for his HS team…….
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