First beem of the ipf up

Alright guys, this is a really groundbreaking argument (see what I did there?), but we’ve heard from the Shalala defenders and detractors (of which, I am one) before. Let it go, shake hands, and let’s celebrate this **** beam, or column, or pillar..., going up!

Go Canes

It's not about defending Shalala. It's about giving Richt the credit he deserves and not shoveling it over to the administrators who really don't give a ****.

I stand corrected. You’ll certainly get no argument from me on being thankful for Richt and appreciative of how much he has done for this program. :fistbump2:
 
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Who is the contractor or CM? good chance they'll have an on-site video following comstruction progress. Good P.R.

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Now can we just remove Donna shalllllalalalalalaallalalalaals name from all other buildings...

Tad Footed failed in destroying the football program. Jimmy and Erickson would not allow it. The troll succeed in hiring losers and incompetent individuals that lead to 15 years of mediocrity.

Da fug are you even trying to say? Frenk was about to hire Schiano before the gift of Richt fell into his lap. This IPF is being built because Richt donated $1 mil of his own cash to get this thing rolling. Why are we talking about administrators that will always fck over this university? Frenk is no different. We should be talking about Richt's generosity and desire to see this program succeed like no other coach in our history ever has.
I am agreeing with you. The TROLL is Shalala and the problem she destroyed our great program single handily. Everything has changed since she left.

I'm not agreeing with you. Shalala didn't do jack ****, just like Frenk isn't doing jack ****, just like Foote didn't do jack ****. Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all viewed as good hires at the time. ****, a lot of people on here were bashing Richt when we hired him. Many people were asking why our beloved university was hiring someone else's discarded trash. Prior to Richt falling into our lap, the candidates for the job were Schiano and Mullen. Yall act like it was between Richt, Chip Kelly and Saban. None of the presidents really give a **** what happens, just as long as we have a good image and are profitable. For some reason there's a group of people on here who are downright obsessed with Donna Shalala and it's more than likely due to her politics than anything else.

No, it's more about them viewing the University of Miami as a football vocational school, instead of an institution of higher learning. They think that the sole reason The U exists is to win football games, and as a result of that flawed mindset have a problem with any administrator that actually does their job. Dr. Shalala, like any competent University President wasn't sitting around making athletic department decisions, that's on the AD, and the athletically inclined members of the BOT, who deserved the lion's share of the blame.

Remember, a lot of our fans never saw campus before ESPN Gameday showed it to them around a month ago. Seriously. A lot of those people don't understand that Dr. Shalala, like Foote before her did right by the people who have a stake in the total success of the University.
 
Now can we just remove Donna shalllllalalalalalaallalalalaals name from all other buildings...

Tad Footed failed in destroying the football program. Jimmy and Erickson would not allow it. The troll succeed in hiring losers and incompetent individuals that lead to 15 years of mediocrity.

Da fug are you even trying to say? Frenk was about to hire Schiano before the gift of Richt fell into his lap. This IPF is being built because Richt donated $1 mil of his own cash to get this thing rolling. Why are we talking about administrators that will always fck over this university? Frenk is no different. We should be talking about Richt's generosity and desire to see this program succeed like no other coach in our history ever has.
I am agreeing with you. The TROLL is Shalala and the problem she destroyed our great program single handily. Everything has changed since she left.

I'm not agreeing with you. Shalala didn't do jack ****, just like Frenk isn't doing jack ****, just like Foote didn't do jack ****. Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all viewed as good hires at the time. ****, a lot of people on here were bashing Richt when we hired him. Many people were asking why our beloved university was hiring someone else's discarded trash. Prior to Richt falling into our lap, the candidates for the job were Schiano and Mullen. Yall act like it was between Richt, Chip Kelly and Saban. None of the presidents really give a **** what happens, just as long as we have a good image and are profitable. For some reason there's a group of people on here who are downright obsessed with Donna Shalala and it's more than likely due to her politics than anything else.

Donna Shalala is the reason we no longer have the Orange Bowl stadium. SHE could have made a deal with the city to take over ownership just like USC did with the LA Colusseum, but instead she chose to cave in and pinch pennies and she damned us to an eternity at Sun Life

For that alone, **** Donna Shalala.
 
Now can we just remove Donna shalllllalalalalalaallalalalaals name from all other buildings...

Tad Footed failed in destroying the football program. Jimmy and Erickson would not allow it. The troll succeed in hiring losers and incompetent individuals that lead to 15 years of mediocrity.

Da fug are you even trying to say? Frenk was about to hire Schiano before the gift of Richt fell into his lap. This IPF is being built because Richt donated $1 mil of his own cash to get this thing rolling. Why are we talking about administrators that will always fck over this university? Frenk is no different. We should be talking about Richt's generosity and desire to see this program succeed like no other coach in our history ever has.
I am agreeing with you. The TROLL is Shalala and the problem she destroyed our great program single handily. Everything has changed since she left.

I'm not agreeing with you. Shalala didn't do jack ****, just like Frenk isn't doing jack ****, just like Foote didn't do jack ****. Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all viewed as good hires at the time. ****, a lot of people on here were bashing Richt when we hired him. Many people were asking why our beloved university was hiring someone else's discarded trash. Prior to Richt falling into our lap, the candidates for the job were Schiano and Mullen. Yall act like it was between Richt, Chip Kelly and Saban. None of the presidents really give a **** what happens, just as long as we have a good image and are profitable. For some reason there's a group of people on here who are downright obsessed with Donna Shalala and it's more than likely due to her politics than anything else.

Well her politics suck too... so........ still working for the failed corrupt pervert led Clinton Foundation? JMO Talking about Shalala led admin that ruined football program by hiring a bunch of amateurs so I figured this comment was appropriate to speak to the kind of person she really is. Didn't even vet Mini-me's gift at the bowling alley....wtf? Pls don't respond because I'm not into arguing with a bunch of clueless liberals.
 
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Now can we just remove Donna shalllllalalalalalaallalalalaals name from all other buildings...

Tad Footed failed in destroying the football program. Jimmy and Erickson would not allow it. The troll succeed in hiring losers and incompetent individuals that lead to 15 years of mediocrity.

Da fug are you even trying to say? Frenk was about to hire Schiano before the gift of Richt fell into his lap. This IPF is being built because Richt donated $1 mil of his own cash to get this thing rolling. Why are we talking about administrators that will always fck over this university? Frenk is no different. We should be talking about Richt's generosity and desire to see this program succeed like no other coach in our history ever has.
I am agreeing with you. The TROLL is Shalala and the problem she destroyed our great program single handily. Everything has changed since she left.

I'm not agreeing with you. Shalala didn't do jack ****, just like Frenk isn't doing jack ****, just like Foote didn't do jack ****. Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all viewed as good hires at the time. ****, a lot of people on here were bashing Richt when we hired him. Many people were asking why our beloved university was hiring someone else's discarded trash. Prior to Richt falling into our lap, the candidates for the job were Schiano and Mullen. Yall act like it was between Richt, Chip Kelly and Saban. None of the presidents really give a **** what happens, just as long as we have a good image and are profitable. For some reason there's a group of people on here who are downright obsessed with Donna Shalala and it's more than likely due to her politics than anything else.

Money was found to pay for Richt and a staff. For the first time ever we've invested in coaching. The prez absolutely has something to do with that. When he was first hired he spoke about wanting to revive football. Dont really know what else u expect. Besides, the man has a set of topless glamour shots floating around... how TF can u not respect a man with topless glamour shots.
 
No, it's more about them viewing the University of Miami as a football vocational school, instead of an institution of higher learning. They think that the sole reason The U exists is to win football games, and as a result of that flawed mindset have a problem with any administrator that actually does their job. Dr. Shalala, like any competent University President wasn't sitting around making athletic department decisions, that's on the AD, and the athletically inclined members of the BOT, who deserved the lion's share of the blame.

Remember, a lot of our fans never saw campus before ESPN Gameday showed it to them around a month ago. Seriously. A lot of those people don't understand that Dr. Shalala, like Foote before her did right by the people who have a stake in the total success of the University.

Yeah, I'm not even sure why I waste my time with these guys. Most of them will be calling for everyone to be fired after our next loss anyway.
 
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This isn't true. OB was a disaster 25 years in the making. Started in the 80s when Norman Braman blocked needed renovations. That's what prompted the Dolphins to leave. After that, the City never earmarked the money to renovate the building. By the early 2000s, the question (from their standpoint) was to either spend $300-400 million to renovate a stadium for a private university that would use it 6 or so times per year or spend $1-2 billion building a new one for a private company that were threatening to leave town and would use the site 81 times (minimum) per year. The city, led by the father of our current DC, made the call. You can disagree with it and you can hate it, but it wasn't Shalala. You'll recall that Braman again fought that deal but this time lost.

Tad Footed failed in destroying the football program. Jimmy and Erickson would not allow it. The troll succeed in hiring losers and incompetent individuals that lead to 15 years of mediocrity.

Da fug are you even trying to say? Frenk was about to hire Schiano before the gift of Richt fell into his lap. This IPF is being built because Richt donated $1 mil of his own cash to get this thing rolling. Why are we talking about administrators that will always fck over this university? Frenk is no different. We should be talking about Richt's generosity and desire to see this program succeed like no other coach in our history ever has.
I am agreeing with you. The TROLL is Shalala and the problem she destroyed our great program single handily. Everything has changed since she left.

I'm not agreeing with you. Shalala didn't do jack ****, just like Frenk isn't doing jack ****, just like Foote didn't do jack ****. Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all viewed as good hires at the time. ****, a lot of people on here were bashing Richt when we hired him. Many people were asking why our beloved university was hiring someone else's discarded trash. Prior to Richt falling into our lap, the candidates for the job were Schiano and Mullen. Yall act like it was between Richt, Chip Kelly and Saban. None of the presidents really give a **** what happens, just as long as we have a good image and are profitable. For some reason there's a group of people on here who are downright obsessed with Donna Shalala and it's more than likely due to her politics than anything else.

Donna Shalala is the reason we no longer have the Orange Bowl stadium. SHE could have made a deal with the city to take over ownership just like USC did with the LA Colusseum, but instead she chose to cave in and pinch pennies and she damned us to an eternity at Sun Life

For that alone, **** Donna Shalala.
 
Tad Footed failed in destroying the football program. Jimmy and Erickson would not allow it. The troll succeed in hiring losers and incompetent individuals that lead to 15 years of mediocrity.

Da fug are you even trying to say? Frenk was about to hire Schiano before the gift of Richt fell into his lap. This IPF is being built because Richt donated $1 mil of his own cash to get this thing rolling. Why are we talking about administrators that will always fck over this university? Frenk is no different. We should be talking about Richt's generosity and desire to see this program succeed like no other coach in our history ever has.
I am agreeing with you. The TROLL is Shalala and the problem she destroyed our great program single handily. Everything has changed since she left.

I'm not agreeing with you. Shalala didn't do jack ****, just like Frenk isn't doing jack ****, just like Foote didn't do jack ****. Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all viewed as good hires at the time. ****, a lot of people on here were bashing Richt when we hired him. Many people were asking why our beloved university was hiring someone else's discarded trash. Prior to Richt falling into our lap, the candidates for the job were Schiano and Mullen. Yall act like it was between Richt, Chip Kelly and Saban. None of the presidents really give a **** what happens, just as long as we have a good image and are profitable. For some reason there's a group of people on here who are downright obsessed with Donna Shalala and it's more than likely due to her politics than anything else.

Donna Shalala is the reason we no longer have the Orange Bowl stadium. SHE could have made a deal with the city to take over ownership just like USC did with the LA Colusseum, but instead she chose to cave in and pinch pennies and she damned us to an eternity at Sun Life

For that alone, **** Donna Shalala.

that's patently false, but i shouldn't be surprised that you actually think that considering you're either an idiot or a troll. the city was throwing out lease terms that were completely unrealistic because it wanted to get the site for loria and the marlins. she did a lot wrong, but had zero say in that situation.
 
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Da fug are you even trying to say? Frenk was about to hire Schiano before the gift of Richt fell into his lap. This IPF is being built because Richt donated $1 mil of his own cash to get this thing rolling. Why are we talking about administrators that will always fck over this university? Frenk is no different. We should be talking about Richt's generosity and desire to see this program succeed like no other coach in our history ever has.
I am agreeing with you. The TROLL is Shalala and the problem she destroyed our great program single handily. Everything has changed since she left.

I'm not agreeing with you. Shalala didn't do jack ****, just like Frenk isn't doing jack ****, just like Foote didn't do jack ****. Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all viewed as good hires at the time. ****, a lot of people on here were bashing Richt when we hired him. Many people were asking why our beloved university was hiring someone else's discarded trash. Prior to Richt falling into our lap, the candidates for the job were Schiano and Mullen. Yall act like it was between Richt, Chip Kelly and Saban. None of the presidents really give a **** what happens, just as long as we have a good image and are profitable. For some reason there's a group of people on here who are downright obsessed with Donna Shalala and it's more than likely due to her politics than anything else.

Donna Shalala is the reason we no longer have the Orange Bowl stadium. SHE could have made a deal with the city to take over ownership just like USC did with the LA Colusseum, but instead she chose to cave in and pinch pennies and she damned us to an eternity at Sun Life

For that alone, **** Donna Shalala.

that's patently false, but i shouldn't be surprised that you actually think that considering you're either an idiot or a troll. the city was throwing out lease terms that were completely unrealistic because it wanted to get the site for loria and the marlins. she did a lot wrong, but had zero say in that situation.

Nope. She didn't fight to keep the Orange Bowl. She didn't do a damned thing.

The city offered $200 million to renovate the stadium for the Hurricanes. Shalala said no, because the rent at Dolphins stadium was cheaper.

The only troll here is that horrible troll Donna Shalala.

Here's a link, you can refresh your memory. Miami Hurricanes Leaving Orange Bowl - washingtonpost.com
 
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This isn't true. OB was a disaster 25 years in the making. Started in the 80s when Norman Braman blocked needed renovations. That's what prompted the Dolphins to leave. After that, the City never earmarked the money to renovate the building. By the early 2000s, the question (from their standpoint) was to either spend $300-400 million to renovate a stadium for a private university that would use it 6 or so times per year or spend $1-2 billion building a new one for a private company that were threatening to leave town and would use the site 81 times (minimum) per year. The city, led by the father of our current DC, made the call. You can disagree with it and you can hate it, but it wasn't Shalala. You'll recall that Braman again fought that deal but this time lost.

Da fug are you even trying to say? Frenk was about to hire Schiano before the gift of Richt fell into his lap. This IPF is being built because Richt donated $1 mil of his own cash to get this thing rolling. Why are we talking about administrators that will always fck over this university? Frenk is no different. We should be talking about Richt's generosity and desire to see this program succeed like no other coach in our history ever has.
I am agreeing with you. The TROLL is Shalala and the problem she destroyed our great program single handily. Everything has changed since she left.

I'm not agreeing with you. Shalala didn't do jack ****, just like Frenk isn't doing jack ****, just like Foote didn't do jack ****. Coker, Shannon, and Golden were all viewed as good hires at the time. ****, a lot of people on here were bashing Richt when we hired him. Many people were asking why our beloved university was hiring someone else's discarded trash. Prior to Richt falling into our lap, the candidates for the job were Schiano and Mullen. Yall act like it was between Richt, Chip Kelly and Saban. None of the presidents really give a **** what happens, just as long as we have a good image and are profitable. For some reason there's a group of people on here who are downright obsessed with Donna Shalala and it's more than likely due to her politics than anything else.

Donna Shalala is the reason we no longer have the Orange Bowl stadium. SHE could have made a deal with the city to take over ownership just like USC did with the LA Colusseum, but instead she chose to cave in and pinch pennies and she damned us to an eternity at Sun Life

For that alone, **** Donna Shalala.

The OB was not a "disaster." The OB was hallowed ground. It was perfect the way it was, and the whole line about needing "renovations" is fish bait that you've apparently bitten on hook line and sinker.

Regardless, the city did offer to pay $200 million to renovate the stadium, according to this Washington Post article. Shalala decided that she would rather move us to Sun Life because it saved the university a couple bucks in rent.

So Shalala is FAR from innocent in this. She sold out the heart and soul of this program for a few measly bucks and some box seats. Donna Shalala was not only a terrible university president, but she is a terrible person and as far as I'm concerned, she can get ****ed. The woman is no friend of Miami football.

Miami Hurricanes Leaving Orange Bowl - washingtonpost.com
 
CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- The Orange Bowl hosted a dozen games that decided college football's national championship, five Super Bowls and a speech by John F. Kennedy.

Miami football called it home for seven decades _ but after this year, no more.

The Hurricanes will play at Dolphin Stadium starting in 2008, leaving the historic but decaying Orange Bowl in what university president Donna Shalala called "a painful and sad decision." University trustees voted to make the move Tuesday, despite the offer of $206 million by city officials to renovate one of Miami's best-known landmarks.

With the Hurricanes set to depart, the Orange Bowl will no longer have a primary tenant _ putting the building's future in serious doubt. Some believe demolition may be an option, and the site has also been mentioned as a possible home for the Florida Marlins, who want a baseball-only facility.

"If they don't have a use for it, I'm sure they'll do something else with it," Miami athletic director Paul Dee said.

Miami agreed to a 25-year lease and could collect more than $2 million in additional revenue annually by moving to Dolphin Stadium, which will carry a new corporate-sponsored name by 2010.

Shalala indicated that the choice to leave the Orange Bowl was difficult, saying afterward, "I didn't want to do it."

"We really tried and I hope our fans understand that we really tried," Shalala said. "That said, the decision itself, given what our options were, was not that complicated."

Miami first played at the Orange Bowl in 1937. The Hurricanes won three national championship games on that field, had a NCAA-record 58-game home winning streak from 1985 through 1994 and have drawn more than 17 million fans there over the years.

But the stadium's facade is rusting, upgrades are needed and the building lacks many amenities modern stadiums have _ such as the luxury suites and video replay screens that helped lure Miami to the Dolphins' home.

"When you look back at the history and all that we have done in that stadium and all that's been accomplished there, frankly, it was accomplished by a group of people on the field," Dee said. "It was accomplished by a group of people in the stands. The Orange Bowl never scored a touchdown. The Orange Bowl never cheered. It was the people that were there."

Miami's first game in Dolphin Stadium _ which is undergoing $300 million worth of expansion and renovations _ is scheduled for Aug. 30, 2008, against North Texas, but Dee said the school is working to bring a different opponent in for the opener.

The Orange Bowl hosted a famous speech by Kennedy to Cuban exiles after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, along with concerts, boxing and even Olympic soccer matches in 1996. Miami has won nearly 70 percent of its games there, bolstered by raucous crowds.

"It got to be very tough to hear and tough to communicate down there. That's what made it difficult," Florida State coach Bobby Bowden said.

Dolphin Stadium owner Wayne Huizenga said he hopes the move "continues the storied football legacy of UM," and Dolphins coach Cam Cameron was pleased.

"There are no negatives from our end," Cameron said.

Soon after the Hurricanes made their announcement, city officials, including Mayor Manny Diaz and city manager Pete Hernandez turned attention toward wooing the Marlins to the Orange Bowl site.

"I think the Orange Bowl would be a great site for the Marlins," Diaz said.

The Marlins _ whose lease at Dolphin Stadium ends in 2010 _ said they would "continue to work diligently" with city and county officials on a stadium plan, adding "the urgency of this situation has been further crystallized by today's decision by the University of Miami."

The city's stadium refurbishment plan was met with skepticism by some within the university, since much of the money would have come from grants and tax credits that haven't been secured.

Shalala called the city's effort "extraordinary," but wondered if remodeling was worthwhile.

"Is it appropriate for the University of Miami, a private university, to ask the people, the taxpayers of the city, to spend $200 million on six games a year?" Shalala asked.


Ultimately, that answer was no.

Some fans lobbied until the end, with more than 4,000 signing an online petition imploring the Hurricanes to stay put, and others organizing rallies in hope of getting trustees to change their mind.

"A lot of people say moving to Dolphin Stadium, you won't get the fan support," Miami coach Randy Shannon said. "But if you're truly a University of Miami fan, you're going to come. Fans are going to be there. We just have to give them a product."

Miami's last scheduled game at the Orange Bowl is Nov. 10 against Virginia.

"We can't live in yesterday's success," said Hall of Fame wide receiver Michael Irvin, a former Miami standout. "We have to move forward to tomorrow's success."
 
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