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Film breakdown of SMU offence

Liberty City El said:
The board will hate it, but Perry fits this style of offense better than any of the 3. Basically Va Tech 2nd half on steroids.

I personally would get a Portal QB or go with TVD or even see what we got with Matocha.

TVD has good arm talent, but I question if he was recruited as an Enox eval to run his under center RPO-bro style or can he adjust to running this type of offense that is way more quick decision oriented.
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Lashlee has said in interviews that his system can adjust & adapt to either a pro-style or dual threat QB. Also TVD his Sr yr ran more spread concepts in his offense. Quick decision making shouldn't be an issue for him at all
 
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TimeB0mb said:
Yes, but I think Alabama HS football might be closer to college speed than Connecticut high school football. There are some true freshman phenoms, I think TVD is talented but isn't quite Trevor Lawrence. You don't want to ruin a promising kid by sticking him behind a terrible OL in his 1st year.
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What about Sam Howell? He just put together one of the greatest FR seasons in history
 
craval85 said:
What about Sam Howell? He just put together one of the greatest FR seasons in history
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Again, I think the talent level/competition in North Carolina high school football tends to be much higher than Connecticut.

www.latimes.com

Jayden Daniels and Kedon Slovis represent college football's newest trend

Arizona State's Jayden Daniels and USC's Kedon Slovis are part of surge of freshman quarterbacks who are making significant impacts for their teams.
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"This season, seven Power Five rookies are currently leading their teams in passing: Jayden Daniels at ASU, Kedon Slovis at USC, Sam Howell at North Carolina, Max Duggan at Texas Christian, Ryan Hilinski at South Carolina, Bo Nix at Auburn and Garrett Shrader at Mississippi State. Combined, that group has 94 touchdowns to 33 interceptions. Five of the seven have winning records."

Daniels- California
Slovis- Arizona (qb coach was Kurt Warner)
Sam Howell- North Carolina
Duggan- Iowa
Hilinski- California
Nix- Alabama
Shrader- North Carolina

With the exception of Duggan and Slovis, the rest come from states with good HS football. Slovis was coached by Kurt Warner. Duggan is the outlier, and to be honest, his stats are garbage. I wouldnt call his performance good at all (15 TDs 10 INTs, 2077 yards, 53.4% completion)

Could TVD be ready as a true freshman? Maybe, but I think it is highly unlikely.
 
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ThomasM said:
He was recruited to try and save Enos' job. I think he'll do just fine.

I was never on the Perry train, but I agree with you. He has a real shot to shine in an O like this. It'll be a LOT of coaching he has to absorb, but if he does, he could do well. I think Williams is done.
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Completely agree with you and LCE!
This is the type of offense that if (big IF) Perry continues to mature and can learn the offense, he can really shine in. LCE, was thinking the same thing....this year’s VaTech on hyper mode!!!!
 
Mike Harley is going to eat so many meals in this offense. All the meals. He'll be our leading receiver in 2020. I'd bet a paycheck on it, barring injury of course. The slot has accumulated well over 35% marketshare of the Lashlee offense at SMU and UConn. Buy stock in Harley.
 
TimeB0mb said:
Again, I think the talent level/competition in North Carolina high school football tends to be much higher than Connecticut.

www.latimes.com

Jayden Daniels and Kedon Slovis represent college football's newest trend

Arizona State's Jayden Daniels and USC's Kedon Slovis are part of surge of freshman quarterbacks who are making significant impacts for their teams.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com

"This season, seven Power Five rookies are currently leading their teams in passing: Jayden Daniels at ASU, Kedon Slovis at USC, Sam Howell at North Carolina, Max Duggan at Texas Christian, Ryan Hilinski at South Carolina, Bo Nix at Auburn and Garrett Shrader at Mississippi State. Combined, that group has 94 touchdowns to 33 interceptions. Five of the seven have winning records."

Daniels- California
Slovis- Arizona (qb coach was Kurt Warner)
Sam Howell- North Carolina
Duggan- Iowa
Hilinski- California
Nix- Alabama
Shrader- North Carolina

With the exception of Duggan and Slovis, the rest come from states with good HS football. Slovis was coached by Kurt Warner. Duggan is the outlier, and to be honest, his stats are garbage. Could TVD be ready as a true freshman? Maybe, but I think it is highly unlikely.
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That's a fair pt, but the sheer volume of power 5 QBs those states produce is also higher because of population. For example you don't see an elite 11 QB from CT every yr. The bottom line is FR QBs start in CFB at a higher rate than at any time in the history of the sport, because of how easy spread offenses are to grasp. I was actually more concerned about whether or not TVD could learn Enos's system his FR season because of it's complexity.
 
Liberty City El said:
The board will hate it, but Perry fits this style of offense better than any of the 3. Basically Va Tech 2nd half on steroids.

I personally would get a Portal QB or go with TVD or even see what we got with Matocha.

TVD has good arm talent, but I question if he was recruited as an Enox eval to run his under center RPO-bro style or can he adjust to running this type of offense that is way more quick decision oriented.
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I'm watching the Memphis game now. Most off the throws are outside the hashes and verticals, with the occasional slant & screen mixed in. Jarren was my favorite qb this year, but he likes to work the middle of the field. The offense I am watching right now would give Jarren fits.

This SMU QB is amazing. Very accurate. The like to move the pocket for him and he is accurate while rolling out, as well. Kosi isn't very accurate. Strike 2.

I haven't seen enough Tate, but does he have the arm strength?

Safe to say it's an open QB battle next year. We might be better off in the portal.
 
J_E_F_F said:
Throwin the towel in in Martell after a single series?
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Shouldn’t count anybody, including Jarren, out.

It’s been over a week since the bowl debacle. Why isn’t he already in the portal.

We are back to square one again.

Get the best transfer available and open up competition for spring.
 
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scrantoncane said:
I'm watching the Memphis game now. Most off the throws are outside the hashes and verticals, with the occasional slant & screen mixed in. Jarren was my favorite qb this year, but he likes to work the middle of the field. The offense I am watching right now would give Jarren fits.

This SMU QB is amazing. Very accurate. The like to move the pocket for him and he is accurate while rolling out, as well. Kosi isn't very accurate. Strike 2.

I haven't seen enough Tate, but does he have the arm strength?

Safe to say it's an open QB battle next year. We might be better off in the portal.
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Finished the Memphis game. Boy do they play fast. Always snapping it with 25-30 seconds on the playclock.

Having such a smart QB allowed him to really exploit mismatches. As soon as they lined it up, the QB knew where to go. Gets the ball out of his hand almost as fast as they snap it. This helped the OL immensely. Also slides the pocket often, usually with a RB or TE in pass pro to help out.

Really stretches the field horizontally. Square outs from the slot. We won't see many drags or curls. Plenty of vertical shots to keep the defense honest, and it looked like he was always throwing into single coverage, at worst.

Some motion and shifting, also in an attempt to create mismatches, but not all that much. No time for it, really. They line up and go.

I didn't like the run schemes, at least for this game. Seemed like it consisted of "quickly hand it off when it looks like the defense is on their heels." One game sample size though, and it was a shootout of a game, so hopefully watching other games alleviates that concern a little.

It should be fun though. I will say that. Nothing like we've ever seen here, that's for sure.
 
Just watched the TCU game and did a statistical deep dive. When Roman and Lance post more in depth film reviews, I'll have watched a few games too to give a more critical eye to what I've seen...but...just for posterity and it'll be interesting by next December to see how accurate I am here.

Distribution of the passing offense at a quick glance.

Slot receiver generates about 36% of the total passing offense. Buy stock in Mike Harley. He's going to eat. Probably a lot. For those of us discussing Tutu Atwell on the Recruiting Board...we'll see if Mike Harley is as good as Tutu, because, this offense is designed for him to eat. Underneath and intermediate routes just feast like Thanksgiving in this offense.

Outside receivers is where the depth comes in...Miami will have to find some wide receivers from now until signing day or focus on moving some guys here. I wouldn't expect much more than the slot to step up as a primary receiver. WR2 (X-WR Roberson) in the SMU offense went for 20% share of the offense in both years but wasn't the feature guy. Dee Wiggins, if he can learn to catch...its a big spot for him to produce in a secondary role and make big plays downfield. Michael Redding, too, could be a player here early. Lots of downfield work for this guy. Rashee Rice was a true freshman that played for SMU last year in place of an injured Reggie Roberson and ended up with a 10% share as a backup to WR2 and finished as WR3 statistically. After that, its interchangeable no matter who plays. A lot of wide receivers comprised of anywhere from 5 to 10 percent of the market and are often used to open someone else up. What does this mean? There aren't many meals to go around for WR3, WR4, and WR5 so I'd focus less on the names involved...they really don't matter (for example, those worried about Pope). Anyone can come in and get 5% of a passing offense, but they need to be team players and run their routes with integrity to make the entire offense even work. This is Sonny Dykes' influence 100%. Its what the Air Raid is all about.

TE in 2017 and 2018 was nearly non-existent. But the inclusion of Rice Transfer Kylen Granson in the 2019 offense led to a surge in production with 18% share of yards and 26% share of touchdowns. I'd expect this to be the general range to expect Brevin Jordan to hit. He was a 15% yards 8% TD player last year (thats not good, even for a TE). The distribution of receptions for a TE ends at your TE1. I'd suggest Mallory learn to catch and focus on playing WR. Other TEs come in and are used to block and get a very small percentage of the offense, but are important for blocking and running routes with integrity. Larry Hodges intrigues me as a TE that will see an increase in snaps.

Running backs run and they block. I wouldn't expect a RB to get more than 10% of the share in the passing offense. What is expected of a RB in this offense, I'm not sure a guy like Lingard would have flourished, since reports on him where that he simply failed to understand the offense and blocking was a problem for him.

In the run game, I expect a full helping for Cam Harris. Expect over 1000 yards, 10+ touchdowns and an All-ACC performance. On a game to game basis, Xavier Jones (an NFL player and shockingly like Cam Harris...maybe after taxes) got 18 carries a game in 2019. If Lashlee runs at volume like he did in 2019 Harris is in for a big, breakout year...he's simply going to eat. RB2 gets about half of the work. There is no reason a freshman like Don Chaney can't come in and produce...but he's got to learn to block, otherwise, I wouldn't be shocked if Robert Burns can come in and eat a few meals...RB2 doesn't do a whole lot. I don't see a player like Jaylen Knighton in his offense the past three years...but Lashlee gets cute A LOT. He's going to be an interesting player to see how they play with him in this offense. But the in-summary is...we probably won't miss Lingard in this offense. If he can't block or understand plays, idk how he would have even played in this offense. I think we'll be fine here.

tl;dr -- Mike Harley is going to ******* EAT. Cam Harris is going to ******* EAT and we won't miss Lingard. X-WR eats in a secondary role, big spot for Dee Wiggins and Michael Redding. The rest of the WR are interchangeable and need to be team players. Brevin Jordan is going to have a pro worthy junior season, but the rest of the TEs need to learn their roles.
 
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scrantoncane said:
I'm watching the Memphis game now. Most off the throws are outside the hashes and verticals, with the occasional slant & screen mixed in. Jarren was my favorite qb this year, but he likes to work the middle of the field. The offense I am watching right now would give Jarren fits.

This SMU QB is amazing. Very accurate. The like to move the pocket for him and he is accurate while rolling out, as well. Kosi isn't very accurate. Strike 2.

I haven't seen enough Tate, but does he have the arm strength?

Safe to say it's an open QB battle next year. We might be better off in the portal.
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Give each QB a chance to throw 30 deep posts. First to hit 28/30 is the starter or we go to the portal =P
 
Shoulda watched this before I posted https://www.canesinsight.com/threads/initial-lashlee-observations.157565/

Oh well it was fun to break it down blind.

Liberty City El said:
The board will hate it, but Perry fits this style of offense better than any of the 3. Basically Va Tech 2nd half on steroids.

I personally would get a Portal QB or go with TVD or even see what we got with Matocha.

TVD has good arm talent, but I question if he was recruited as an Enox eval to run his under center RPO-bro style or can he adjust to running this type of offense that is way more quick decision oriented.
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I agree. The defined throws would help Perry immensely. He can throw back shoulder fades, bubbles and swing passes. Pass protection should be much better so his pocket issues would be much less severe.

There will still be long yardage situations where he would have to read coverage and go through progressions but those will be less frequent. Even 5 of those a game could be 3-4 INTs with Perry though...

Can Miami win with Perry in this offense? Probably but not to the level fans would hope.
 
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