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Fight or Flight response

JoeyNickels

JoeyNickels

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We run fellas. We love the smoke in the tunnel but duck the smoke on the field. You see if after touchdowns and you see it after sacks. There is no fire here, there are no goons. Where I'm from we were taught when a fight starts ur in it. Lose or draw you bring **** and in the end the worst case scenario is you lost the fight but earned respect. I played fullback my whole life and I promise you I did not win every battle but I also promise I left a piece of me on every iso, kick out, or blitz pick up. This team is ok with just being. That's a problem. Lonzo needs to fix this mentality b4 coaches fix schemes. Watch a dude like Blake Corum and then tell me our backs run hard. Watch Sean Spence at 187 pds attack Tim Tebow when he was 230 and tell me we fight like that now. That's the issue and forget the rest.
 
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bdcane4eva said:
Coaching aside...after the first PI, whatever fight we had was gone. We are an incredibly fragile team in every way.
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That's on coaching. Teams take on the personality of the coaches. Mario looks asleep on the sidelines. I think the pressure of being home is too much for him. He seems timid and guess what the team looks like.
 
cway313 said:
That's on coaching. Teams take on the personality of the coaches. Mario looks asleep on the sidelines. I think the pressure of being home is too much for him. He seems timid and guess what the team looks like.
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That's true. He hasn't shown much emotion on the sideline since game 1-2.
 
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It's ok to be out schemed, it's ok to be out skilled(that was bound to happen with the last few years of recruiting). It's never ok to be out fought. Miami football was brought to light by players who reveled in being the monster under the bed even when they lost. That is gone today. Canes are not feared nor respected. Some class needs to decide the doormat has been moved and replaced by some pitbullz who even in a loss are gonna make u feel it. Until that day, the hype is a fugazi.
 
cway313 said:
That's on coaching. Teams take on the personality of the coaches. Mario looks asleep on the sidelines. I think the pressure of being home is too much for him. He seems timid and guess what the team looks like.
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This right here. These same players were here last year fighting for manny a lame duck coach through the end of the year. What’s changed? The coaching staff.
 
305_separatist said:
This right here. These same players were here last year fighting for manny a lame duck coach through the end of the year. What’s changed? The coaching staff.
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You don't play for coaches you play for your boys. You play for the man next to you like other things in life. I'm not 100% disagreeing but this team systemically is not interested in winning. They are interested in participating and what it will get them even in the face of maybe the worst record in the last 15 years.
 
RozayCane said:
these players don’t like these coaches.. I truly believe that.. I also think the feeling is mutual..

That’s why we’ll have 30-40 new players next season.
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Yea It looks like the team has no faith in the scheme. Can't blame them though. Which also is probably why they don't care. I'm sure some can't wait to leave for a different scheme as much as Mario can't wait to get the players he wants.
 
JoeyNickels said:
It's ok to be out schemed, it's ok to be out skilled(that was bound to happen with the last few years of recruiting). It's never ok to be out fought. Miami football was brought to light by players who reveled in being the monster under the bed even when they lost. That is gone today. Canes are not feared nor respected. Some class needs to decide the doormat has been moved and replaced by some pitbullz who even in a loss are gonna make u feel it. Until that day, the hype is a fugazi.
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That is what the Miami brand attracts. Need to do a better job with filtering.
 
cway313 said:
That's on coaching. Teams take on the personality of the coaches. Mario looks asleep on the sidelines. I think the pressure of being home is too much for him. He seems timid and guess what the team looks like.
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I get the feeling that he tried pushing them early on and the results were not good so now he figures there is not point in getting worked up as things will either be the same or worse if he does (after all, the majority of the backups do worse than the starters when put in the game so why risk completely losing the starters). Remember, Manny was the type of coach that wanted to be everyone's friend; Mario yelling at them likely just made them tune out more.
 
JoeyNickels said:
It's ok to be out schemed, it's ok to be out skilled(that was bound to happen with the last few years of recruiting). It's never ok to be out fought. Miami football was brought to light by players who reveled in being the monster under the bed even when they lost. That is gone today. Canes are not feared nor respected. Some class needs to decide the doormat has been moved and replaced by some pitbullz who even in a loss are gonna make u feel it. Until that day, the hype is a fugazi.
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That was gone by the end of the Coker period. Trampled in the 40-3 bowl loss to LSU.
 
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Shogungts said:
I get the feeling that he tried pushing them early on and the results were not good so now he figures there is not point in getting worked up as things will either be the same or worse if he does (after all, the majority of the backups do worse than the starters when put in the game so why risk completely losing the starters). Remember, Manny was the type of coach that wanted to be everyone's friend; Mario yelling at them likely just made them tune out more.
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Could be true. I just don't like seeing a corpse on the sideline while we are getting dogwalked by our biggest rival. The team comes out dead every week and the next halftime adjustment will be the first. Also we need to hire someone to hide timeouts from that man.
 
Jaxcane4 said:
Yea It looks like the team has no faith in the scheme. Can't blame them though. Which also is probably why they don't care. I'm sure some can't wait to leave for a different scheme as much as Mario can't wait to get the players he wants.
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TemplarCane said:
That was gone by the end of the Coker period. Trampled in the 40-3 bowl loss to LSU.
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Real talk but it shouldn't be accepted. Brand management is huge for this generation of young people in all aspects of life. You need players to watch the 80s canes and want to be John Wick between the white lines. Guys who kept it together but then unleash the most aggressive and disciplined parts of themselves on their opponent when challenged. A group a civil savages!
 
305_separatist said:
This right here. These same players were here last year fighting for manny a lame duck coach through the end of the year. What’s changed? The coaching staff.
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Did they fight for Manny when they lost 62-28 to UNC, at home, with a NYE6 game on the line? A home bowl game at Hard Rock?

Nah.

More like they knew if Manny left a new HC wasn’t likely to be such a pushover.
 
This ain't it. The team fought last weekend because luckily, the UVA offense was as bad as ours to at least provide hope that maybe a win can be eked out.

However, anyone with any objectivity whatsoever knows that this high school level offense with Garcia or Brown has no shot against an FSU team that can score and move the ball. The team knew it and they gave up. The game was over when TVD went out. I knew it. I presume everyone here knew it and the team knew it. Game was over at what, was it 7-3 or 14-3 when TVD got injured. And sure as sh*t, we didn't score again.
 
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