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Fight broke out during Canes practice.

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Alex Jones said:
There’s never been a culture , that was always bs coach talk. The culture is far worse now that under richt.
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Richt was a disciplinarian. He was just burnt out. Having a burnt out disciplinarian is far better than what Diaz offers.

Diaz wants to be liked. That's bad. You shouldn't give a **** about being liked, you want to be respected. There's a difference, Diaz just hasn't figured it out and likely never will.

I'm assuming it wasn't this bad, even under Coker and Golden.
 
The Sphinx said:
Nah. What you're talking about only works when you have strong leadership in place - and not just the coach. If it were upperclassmen fighting the young guys for slack effort ahead of a big game when the season still has meaning, then I'd agree with you.

Don't kid yourself. This is only the beginning of the team unravelling.
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These are the circumstances that create strong leaders. There is so much testosterone in a football locker room that sometimes it really comes down to the true alphas asserting themselves over the others. These same guys weren't speaking up but Manny created a climate where they are forced to. Manny knew he had no real leaders in the locker room. He wanted players to hold other players accountable and its working.

Leaders will come out of this.
 
Someone should’ve punched manny and Lashlee maybe they both would’ve woken the **** up
 
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HurikaneMarc said:
These are the circumstances that create strong leaders. There is so much testosterone in a football locker room that sometimes it really comes down to the true alphas asserting themselves over the others. These same guys weren't speaking up but Manny created a climate where they are forced to. Manny knew he had no real leaders in the locker room. He wanted players to hold other players accountable and its working.

Leaders will come out of this.
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We'Re juST leArNiNg hOw To bE LeADErS
 
Hogan said:
Apparently punches were being thrown during Canes practice. One player almost decked a defensive assistant, so it must have been some battle.

Barry Jackson delivered that info so... Idk what to say rn, whether thats a good thing or a bad thing.

edit: mr. 15-0 told me to add something, so here: if the coach would have been decked, it would have been an accident. he tried to break it up and almost got popped himself (which is why i dont go into fights)

reason why they fought is because they ran sprints for penalties. if you dont show full effort, the whole group that you are in has to run the sprints all over again. some players apparently didnt, hence the fight.

player meeting happened afterwards, without the coaches being present. manny made another stupid comparison after that meeting that i dont even want to quote here...
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This happened at EVERY SINGLE FOOTBALL TEAM I PLAYED ON...FROM 9TH GRADE ALL THE WAY TO 4 YEARS OF COLLEGE............EVERY SZN LOL
 
Alex Jones said:
The fight isn’t the issue , that’s the nothing. It’s the high school girls locker room gossip and drama causing the fights. I’ve been around football my entire life and I’ve never heard stories like I’ve heard with this team. It’s almost as unbelievable as the miracle of child birth.
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Stop recruiting snowflakes
 
Alex Jones said:
The fight isn’t the issue , that’s the nothing. It’s the high school girls locker room gossip and drama causing the fights. I’ve been around football my entire life and I’ve never heard stories like I’ve heard with this team. It’s almost as unbelievable as the miracle of child birth.
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Any elaboration?

Or is it just way worse than what we imagined? Can a new coach even stop this rot?
 
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hiphopanimal said:
Any elaboration?

Or is it just way worse than what we imagined? Can a new coach even stop this rot?
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If somebody like Mario came in kids would have to leave or change habits and fast. He’s the opposite of manny. Imo most of these kids what to be coached hard but it’s hard to take this whole thing serious. Especially when you don’t respect the coach.
 
Alex Jones said:
The fight isn’t the issue , that’s the nothing. It’s the high school girls locker room gossip and drama causing the fight. I’ve been around football my entire life and I’ve never heard stories like I’ve heard with this team. It’s almost as unbelievable as the miracle of child birth.
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Can you provide an example without divulging names?
 
Alex Jones said:
If somebody like Mario came in kids would have to leave or change habits and fast. He’s the opposite of manny. Imo most of these kids what to be coached hard but it’s hard to take this whole thing serious. Especially when you don’t respect the coach.
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Hard to respect a shrimpfvck who never played and has a horrendous scheme and talks out of his *** like a politician all the time.
 
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