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Fastest Cane 40yds/100yds...What say you??

Bubba McDowell, Donald Ellis, Bobby Harden, Charles Pharms and Kenny Berry of the 1988 team. I think their speed is better than last years db's.
 
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TheMatador said:
It was a shame about Tory Mitchell. He came to Miami with world class potential. I think he had a wind-aided 10.23 or something like that. In HS. He left Miami in world-class speed, too. Gone in a flash for Texas Tech and obscurity. About ten or so years ago he was murdered in Texas. Never had that great track career.
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Tory ran a 10.12 wind-aided. Won state his senior year with a legal 10.31. Skinny as a toothpick.... came from a place with zero track history and no urban track center anywhere close, with nutrition and training like the elite kids get today he could have been unbelievable.

Midland Reporter-Telegram
08/23/2007

BIG SPRING -- Sentenced to life Wednesday for the Christmas Eve murder of a former Big Spring High School track star, Michael Harbert expressed contempt for Tory Mitchell's family during a victim's impact statement and taunted them outside while being led to jail.

When more than a dozen of Mitchell's friends and relatives chanted, "Bye-bye for life," outside the 118th District Court building west of Howard County Courthouse, the towering Harbert loudly responded:

"I'm still breathing, your cousin's dead!"

He had earlier used profanity to express contempt for a family spokesman during a courtroom statement about the effect Mitchell's death had on his loved ones.

The seven-man, five-woman jury heard final arguments from District Attorney Hardy Wilkerson and Midland defense lawyer Wayne Frost and deliberated 45 minutes to convict Harbert of murder and being a felon in possession of a firearm. They needed only 15 minutes to recommend that Judge Robert Moore give him life for murder and 20 years for the lesser charge and levy $30,000 in fines.

"We don't believe Tory and Harbert were involved in anything with each other," Wilkerson said after the trial. "Harbert was assaulting a woman here last September and when the police were called, he threw a gun over a fence.

"Tory seems to have come into possession of the gun and Harbert knew he had it and kept wanting it back. Tory had no criminal record."
 
caneinorlando said:
ddann....It's all good....I'm just amazed that JJ would say that....There were ALOT of Faster Canes than Melvin in those Mid 80s teams....
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Then again, Jimmy Johnson (with the Cowboys) also said that WR Alexander Wright was the fastest player he had ever been around. And (with the Dolphins) said that RB John Avery was his "home run hitter." Dude never really hit any "home runs" with the Dolphins, though, and had to go to the CFL to find success.
 
ddann said:
Interesting thread.

Two of the fastest guys mentioned (Shipman & DVD) certainly weren't big time players at UM. Shipman wasn't even close to being a starter. DVD was a starter, but would be waaaaaaay down the list of great UM CBs. I can still see him giving up that game-losing TD vs UNC in 2008.

Speedsters like Santana, Hester, Thrill Hill had a huge impact on the team's performance with their big plays AND were incredibly fast. Travis Benjamin would maybe get close to that group. Daryl Jones would be in the second tier. Great speed, but was more of a role player and contributor rather than being one of the key guys on the team.

Eddie Brown seems to have been forgotten in this discussion. (Maybe because a lot of posters weren't around when he played, I don't know).

Like someone else said, there's speed and then there is football speed. Football speed doesn't always show up on the stopwatch or at the meets and combines. But it shows up on the field. Some guys are just so quick and elusive that nobody can lay a hand on them in space.
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A lot of times people confuse speed with acceleration. A guy like Santana or Hester who can see a lane and be at their max speed in two strides...I don’t really care what your 40 time is. By the time you see, react, and turn, they’re already by you and it’s only a maximum 99 yard race.

4.5 will beat 4.3 to the end zone every time if 4.5 guy is already at top speed and two steps in front of 4.3 guy.

On the flip, some guys are simply faster because they are smarter, process what’s going to happen, anticipate, and react faster.

We call it football speed because we’re not all lined up in an equal starting position and we don’t all start at the sound of a gun. A major part of being football fast is knowing when to start running and to which direction.
 
Loose Cannon said:
A lot of times people confuse speed with acceleration. A guy like Santana or Hester who can see a lane and be at their max speed in two strides...I don’t really care what your 40 time is. By the time you see, react, and turn, they’re already by you and it’s only a maximum 99 yard race.

4.5 will beat 4.3 to the end zone every time if 4.5 guy is already at top speed and two steps in front of 4.3 guy.

On the flip, some guys are simply faster because they are smarter, process what’s going to happen, anticipate, and react faster.

We call it football speed because we’re not all lined up in an equal starting position and we don’t all start at the sound of a gun. A major part of being football fast is knowing when to start running and to which direction.
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Yep, it’s definitely called acceleration my friend , Hester didn’t have great top end but he could go 0 to 100 faster than anyone. His acceleration was insane.

He could literally stop on a dime as a guy flies by , then accelerate back to his top gear. Outrunning the guys coming at full speed.

Damndess thing I’ve ever seen.
 
TheSwagger1 said:
Tory ran a 10.12 wind-aided. Won state his senior year with a legal 10.31. Skinny as a toothpick.... came from a place with zero track history and no urban track center anywhere close, with nutrition and training like the elite kids get today he could have been unbelievable.

Midland Reporter-Telegram
08/23/2007

BIG SPRING -- Sentenced to life Wednesday for the Christmas Eve murder of a former Big Spring High School track star, Michael Harbert expressed contempt for Tory Mitchell's family during a victim's impact statement and taunted them outside while being led to jail.

When more than a dozen of Mitchell's friends and relatives chanted, "Bye-bye for life," outside the 118th District Court building west of Howard County Courthouse, the towering Harbert loudly responded:

"I'm still breathing, your cousin's dead!"

He had earlier used profanity to express contempt for a family spokesman during a courtroom statement about the effect Mitchell's death had on his loved ones.

The seven-man, five-woman jury heard final arguments from District Attorney Hardy Wilkerson and Midland defense lawyer Wayne Frost and deliberated 45 minutes to convict Harbert of murder and being a felon in possession of a firearm. They needed only 15 minutes to recommend that Judge Robert Moore give him life for murder and 20 years for the lesser charge and levy $30,000 in fines.

"We don't believe Tory and Harbert were involved in anything with each other," Wilkerson said after the trial. "Harbert was assaulting a woman here last September and when the police were called, he threw a gun over a fence.

"Tory seems to have come into possession of the gun and Harbert knew he had it and kept wanting it back. Tory had no criminal record."
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Yep I remember this. Mitchell was fast as ****. Think he came in Willie Dixon from Cali who fast also supposedly. Memory might be a lil foggy..could be wrong but they were close and Davis recruits. Dixon didn't do anything here either.
 
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Cribby said:
Yep, it’s definitely called acceleration my friend , Hester didn’t have great top end but he could go 0 to 100 faster than anyone. His acceleration was insane.

He could literally stop on a dime as a guy flies by , then accelerate back to his top gear. Outrunning the guys coming at full speed.

Damndess thing I’ve ever seen.
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He had, as Liam Neison would say, a particular set of skills that made him uniquely qualified to be a return man
 
I will say that I've never seen anyone in our uniform look faster than Hester did against Louisville. He looks sped up out there and that first cut upfield acceleration in the 105 yard return was insanity.
 
I remember a game being called by Keith Jackson back in the day where he referred to Shipman as "the fastest of the fast" of the Miami speedsters. The voice of college ball.

Go Canes!
 
TrueFloridian said:
This is exactly what 1st came to mind when I saw this thread also. Then I read more on it. The fastest 40 time of any cane was Tremaine Mack with a 4.25, Shipman 2nd with a 4.27, and Williams 3rd with a 4.28.
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Great info nice , anyone of these guys could anchor be on the Olympic 4 X 100 relay time no doubt be formidable 🙌

GOCANES
 
TrueFloridian said:
This is exactly what 1st came to mind when I saw this thread also. Then I read more on it. The fastest 40 time of any cane was Tremaine Mack with a 4.25, Shipman 2nd with a 4.27, and Williams 3rd with a 4.28.
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I was friends with Tremain back in the day...can't count how many 40s...and overall Sprints I watched him run....wasn't friends with Froggy, but thinking back....Froggy's Burst off the line was unmatched.....his 1st 15-20yds were Head Shaking....
 
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