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S.CarolinaCane said:
When you look at the formula we used, we basically transformed the sport at this level. Then the game was changed when scholly numbers were reduced.
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Scholarship limits began in 1973 mostly to free up money for woman sports following the passage of Title IX. The NCAA set the initial limit at 105. Scholarship limits were further reduced in 1978 to 95. The current limit (85) was established in 1992. We began our legacy under the 95 roster limits and our resurgence after sanctions under the 85 limit. Nothing has materially changed since 1973. Attached is a link if you are interested.

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S.CarolinaCane said:
However, those with the big bucks were able to move forward with the support of the major networks along with the NCAA. I do not think anyone can disagree with that, unless you have living in a cave for the last 20 years.
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The only team with their own network TV contract is Notre Dame. The private networks like the Longhorn network is insignificant as far as revenue and exists primarily for marketing. Network contracts are no longer monopolized by the NCAA but are negotiated by conferences , one of which we belong. All of the deeply pocketed programs have always been deeply pocketed long before the conferences were negotiating their own network contracts. Other than an appearance fee, the NCAA did not share revenue with conferences or teams when they controlled TV. We're a beneficiary of TV money as any other team (in the ACC anyways).

As far as bags, there was always a bag game even bag in the 60s. It existed before the TV money. We've dealt with schools with deep pockets successfully in the past. Nothing has changed to prevent us from dealing with them again. Many of the traditional deep pocketed teams are irrelevant (USC, Texas, Oklahoma, Michigan). The only thing that changed is inflation. A good entry level position out of college in the mid 70s was around 15K a year. Now it's around 60K. Bags have grown accordingly.
S.CarolinaCane said:
We did not help our selves when we rode the Coker train straight off a cliff and then dug ourselves a canyon at the bottom of the cliff with the hiring of Shannon, Golden, etc. I say we will not be the same Miami ever again, and I will stick by it.
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Then why come to a fan site dedicated to following a team we all wish to improve and compete amongst the best in the game? Should we all similarly consign ourselves to resigned resignation?
S.CarolinaCane said:
Unless we become some crazy cash cow for the NCAA, you might as well forget about it.

This does not mean we wont ever be at the top again, it just means that there are programs out there that can get away with doing what we used to do, and honestly it has everything to do with the amount of money they bring in and we are going to have to find another way.
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What did we do to get good? Were we a bag school? Did we buy recruits? Did we cheat on the field? Did we white wash grades? The NCAA didn't have a "jones" for UM until JJ did a tap dance on Gerry Faust corpse in 1985. They were laying in wait until they could come down hard. Even the 95 crack downs were not for things that gave us a competitive or recruiting advantage.

Despite competitive disadvantage that we always operated under, we got good with superior evaluations and development. And we were situated on a hotbed of talent. Everyone knew that even back then. But we got the right ones and we got them first. What has changed is our staffs since Butch recruit off of lists. What also changed is our own administrations doesn't support the program the way good ol Henry King Stanford did. He saved the program without the pile of money others have.
S.CarolinaCane said:
Manny is actually doing this right now, he is climbing this hill that our previous four coaches could not surmount. Our fan base wants wins, and we want them now, Manny has found a way to do that, even with limited talent at several positions. He found a way to fix the biggest problems and move forward. If he continues to do this, he will also find a way to conquer the ACC, which is, and should be, the next step. Then, and only then, he may find a way to put into title contention. So thank GOD he is not focusing on what our fan base thinks is right for this program.
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We shall see.
S.CarolinaCane said:
Have no doubt that it is almost certainly still us against the world, because college football does not want a team like Miami to be on top again. They are afraid of us. Our brand is still very much alive, and that was prevalent in the little bit of spotlight we received early in the season. There are things that we will never be able to do again, but there is one thing that can never be taken away, THE U!!!
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This us against the world is getting tiring. It may have served a purpose back in the day, but judging from the play over the last year, it hasn't gotten the team focused or fired up. It 's same with this "swagger" stuff. They talk swagger then get into a dogfight with teams less talented, who want it more. It's backwards. Back in the day, swagger came from the confidence obtained from imposing their will on the other team, again and again and again despite all the headwinds against them. It's a completely different mindset.
 
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LouisianaCane337 said:
I SURE HOPE WE CAN CONVINCE KING TO HANG AROUND FOR ROUND 2 NEXT YEAR.. Anything can happen with the right player's added with this next recruiting class, Bring on Bama..
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The only way he doesn’t come back is if he decides he doesn’t wanna play football anymore. He’s not getting drafted, and I’m sure he knows that.
 
King would be a moron NOT to come back.

But then again, I said the EXACT same thing about Bandy, Jeff Thomas, and the majority of our last 50 early departures. This is all a biproduct of losing....those fringe kids are more likely to return to a program they actually think gives them a chance at glory. When you constantly underperform the way this program has for the last 2 decades......the agents know it and hit them over the head with "get into the league as fast as you can so you get accrue toward retirement benefits" speech.

It's reality. It's the reason why so many of us have been losing our **** minds by how poorly this program has been run. The trickle down after effects are felt for YEARS down the road until the vicious cycle of losing games we SHOULD win comes to a CONSISTENT end.
 
davion_mori said:
You don’t need a top 5 roster to expect your team to play smart, disciplined football and to come out with some energy and pride.

As the coach, the team is what you allow it to be. If you allow a culture that celebrates barely beating a 1-4 team at home MOSTLY because your team played flat the whole day , then you are exactly that - a team that accepts mediocrity

Happy with the win but the team is clearly unprepared on gameday
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This I agree with 100%!

I’ve been saying this since the first game of last year. Until Manny decides to get his butt in the film room and study the opponents weaknesses and attack it whether it be on Offense or Defense we will continue to be out coached and underprepared.

If you hear the quote “We practice against ourselves” that means they did no film study on the opponent and will go with the lazy way of preparing for a game.

Message to Manny!! We are not good enough or talented enough to imitate Jimmy’s teams of the 80’s or even Butch’s teams of the 90’s to pull that off. Those teams culture and heart were built totally different than the entitled recruits today.

Jimmy and Butch didn’t play favorites like Manny. They put the best guys on the field no matter class. I remember a fresh out of high school Ray Lewis starting at LB even though he was a last minute addition to his recruiting class.

Manny IMO still has a long way to grow as a HC. I’m hoping he takes a leap this year when it comes to preparation because I’m slowly beginning to lose hope.
 
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jjjrcanes said:
This I agree with 100%!

I’ve been saying this since the first game of last year. Until Manny decides to get his butt in the film room and study the opponents weaknesses and attack it whether it be on Offense or Defense we will continue to be out coached and underprepared.

If you hear the quote “We practice against ourselves” that means they did no film study on the opponent and will go with the lazy way of preparing for a game.

Message to Manny!! We are not good enough or talented enough to imitate Jimmy’s teams of the 80’s or even Butch’s teams of the 90’s to pull that off. Those teams culture and heart were built totally different than the entitled recruits today.

Jimmy and Butch didn’t play favorites like Manny. They put the best guys on the field no matter class. I remember a fresh out of high school Ray Lewis starting at LB even though he was a last minute addition to his recruiting class.

Manny IMO still has a long way to grow as a HC. I’m hoping he take a leap this year when it comes to preparation because I’m slowly beginning to lose hope.
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We currently have freshmen unseating upperclassmen at RB, LB and if not for the corona suspensions, likely WR.

And do you really believe our coaches don’t look at hours of film about our opponents? Really?

Come on dude.
 
Go Canes!! said:
We currently have freshmen unseating upperclassmen at RB, LB and if not for the corona suspensions, likely WR.

And do you really believe our coaches don’t look at hours of film about our opponents? Really?

Come on dude.
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They may look at hours of film in your opinion but it doesn’t show up on game day.

And to your other point! It takes multiple games played before Manny gives up on his guys before he start playing younger and more talented athletes. He did the same thing last year when he finally started Greg Rousseau after about game 3!

Even you will agree Greg Rousseau was one of the top DLn in all of college football and not just on this team.
 
Football is not rocket science.

Take ownership of you position, train and study like no other as if your in the desert and you would do anything for one single drop of water.

Everyone do this RINGS start showing up.

Going thru the motion players ROB the above type players if VICTORY.

VERY UNFAIR AND SAD

GOCANES
 
chrisRMNU said:
What confuses me is this mindset here. We handled the first 3 opponents quite easily with UL being the closest game, and it wasn't really even that close. Then we lose to the #1 team in college football, didn't look great, but many people can understand how that Clemson team could expose your weaknesses. Next week we beat Pitt pretty comfortably in a game that honestly was never in question. Last week, we were sloppy and the game was interesting late, but we won.

Outside of Clemson we have trailed for a grand total of 2:28 all year. That's it. We have been in control of almost every second of every game with exception of #1 Clemson. After the last 15 years, I just don't understand why someone couldn't enjoy that.
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I’m still enjoying the wins I’m just not super pumped up like I would expect to being 5-1. I feel like it’s a house of cards just waiting to blow over. I hope I’m wrong and I’m obviously rooting for the staff
 
davion_mori said:
I’m still enjoying the wins I’m just not super pumped up like I would expect to being 5-1. I feel like it’s a house of cards just waiting to blow over. I hope I’m wrong and I’m obviously rooting for the staff
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Exactly. In 2017 we knew that 7-0 was a charade. Here, we're not quite as certain.
 
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