Executive Order Limits NCAA Athletes to Five Seasons in Five Years; One Transfer without Sitting Out a Year

[ST26]

It’s a joke because an Exec Order has no legal effect whatsoever. Indeed nothing will have any binding, legal effect so long as there is no collective bargaining agreement.

The idea maybe valid and useful but the impact is 0000000%

It’s not a law, but it’s also not meaningless. If federal funding and enforcement start getting tied to NIL and transfer rules, schools will adjust pretty quickly. And stuff like this is usually a first step toward actual legislation.

The sad truth is that nobody is going to agree on anything, but least it’s trying to fix the biggest issue in the sport right now.

 

[ST26]

How do you feel about the fact programs can still pull a kid’s scholarship after a year with no penalty? How do you address false promises to lure a kid away? Make the kid suffer? The colleges don’t want to treat the players like employees but want employee type commitments.

Government and institutional overreach. CB is the correct answer.

I don’t disagree with that at all — schools shouldn’t be able to pull scholarships or make empty promises, and players probably do need more protection. But unlimited transfers isn’t fixing that, it’s just created complete chaos.

There’s gotta be some middle ground here. Whether it’s contracts, rules, or eventually collective bargaining, the current system just isn’t sustainable

 

[cookies]

Executive orders have no legal effect whatsoever. No school can implement this, nor can the NCAA, based on executive order.

Things like tihs aren’t worth the paper on I which they are printed. This is nothing but publicity. If you pay attention to this, you are paying attention to publicity, and you have no one to blame but yourself for the time you waste reading or thinking about this.

My comment is apolitical as it stands true regardless of the party in whom the presidency rests.

 

[kupakong]

Do any of these proposals to Congress or Trump have any caps on coach's ability to move or salary? I wonder if there will be a prominent coach in the country with balls enough to point out the incongruity between the rhetoric w the players but none w the coaches. I'm sure the $8-10 million per year used on head football coaches, or the $40 million buyouts for bum coaches, could be well spent on Olympic sports.

 

[DTP]

How exactly is this a joke? This fixes the number one issues that has been ruining college sports- unlimited transfers. Before the NIL era, every player (besides grad transfers) had to sit out a year if they transfered. There wasn’t a lot of complaining back then

It’s a joke because it’s meaningless.

But also, if they’re going to attempt to enact an anti- transfer rule, they better **** well make athletic scholarships four years instead of renewing annually. Half the kids in the transfer portal are there because a coach pushed them out. It’s absurd that people expect players to honor a four year agreement when schools are under no obligation to honor one. That and coaches are free to up and leave whenever they want.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

And the next President can also just wipe his *** with this desperate publicity stunt executive order.

 

[ST26]

It’s a joke because it’s meaningless.

But also, if they’re going to attempt to enact an anti- transfer rule, they better **** well make athletic scholarships four years instead of renewing annually. Half the kids in the transfer portal are there because a coach pushed them out. It’s absurd that people expect players to honor a four year agreement when schools are under no obligation to honor one. That and coaches are free to up and leave whenever they want.

This executive order doesn’t actually ban transfers. It gives every player one free transfer, and after that, they’d have to sit out a year unless they’re a grad transfer. So it’s more about creating some structure rather than taking away player movement entirely

Before the NIL, all transfers, besides grads, had to sit out year. Didn’t see a whole lot of complaining then

 

[Ironmanfootball]

This is the one time where I agree with the NCAA , five years is the max

I've been saying 5 to play 5 for years. This McCormick, Toure, etc stuff is a joke. The average student takes 5 years to graduate college anyway.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I would assume a grandfather clause and the 5 years will apply moving forward.

I can’t see this applying retroactively.

I can't see this applying at all.

First, the president cannot, via an executive order, "invalidate" state laws.

Second, the order directs the NCAA to make rules, including a transfer rule which the courts have already held to be in violation of Antitrust laws.

Finally, the "enforcement mechanism" is the withholding of federal funds, which has already been threatened against Miami (and many other schools) for being "too woke" for Trump/Hegseth.

So, yeah if anyone thinks this is the new "law of the land"...it's not.

It's just more chaos to navigate.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I know we would love to forget the Pell Grant scandal, but case in point of being on the government teat at a private school.

If you think "Pell Grants" are sustaining a university that charges $100K per year for the cost of attendance...

 

[HarborCane]

I’m surprised he didn’t demand every school name at least one building after him. This doesn’t fix anything. It’s just muddies the water even more.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I know this board is more interested in watching Mandingo **** than current events, but for those who are chiding the President for getting involved in college football, NCAA officials and others (including Nick Saban) requested Trump’s involvement. Thanks for reading and now return to Mandingo bangs Riley Reid.

Who gives a **** if anyone "requested Trump's involvement". The NCAA also begged Congress to act FOR YEARS and it didn't happen.

Just like when a homeless person asks you for money, that doesn't mean you have to give him money.

 

[ST26]

And the next President can also just wipe his *** with this desperate publicity stunt executive order.

You gotta relax. This is just the first of many attempts to try and preserve college athletics. The sad part is, nobody is ever going to agree. I’ve been saying this from the start: these schools will eventually form their own league, completely separate from the NCAA. I can see it working a lot like the Premier League.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Executive orders have no legal effect whatsoever. No school can implement this, nor can the NCAA, based on executive order.

Things like tihs aren’t worth the paper on I which they are printed. This is nothing but publicity. If you pay attention to this, you are paying attention to publicity, and you have no one to blame but yourself for the time you waste reading or thinking about this.

My comment is apolitical as it stands true regardless of the party in whom the presidency rests.

The SINGLE area of concern, speaking solely for myself, is the "withholding of federal funds". He has already shown that he will use and abuse that lever like a lab rat jonesing for a pellet of food.

 

[HarborCane]

The SINGLE area of concern, speaking solely for myself, is the "withholding of federal funds". He has already shown that he will use and abuse that lever like a lab rat jonesing for a pellet of food.

That’s why this is such a bad thing. Some schools will go crying to him that they followed his rules and they are losing to schools who didn’t. His ego will then force him to lash out. Obedience must be rewarded. Defiance punished. It’s right out of the handbook.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

This detail serves as a source of frustration for me regarding the action or inaction of the institution as a whole. Selective enforcement over time erodes the basic principle that everyone joined the organization (and could withdraw) so they ought to follow the rules.

In a recent close-to-home example, why was there even a single thought of entertainment regarding Wisconsin and the Big Ten’s pursuit of some sort of NCAA-levied penalty against X. Lucas or the University when Wisconsin (as an institution) should have been punished for a failure to comply with the basic mandates for entering a player into the portal?

I recall D mentioning as kind of a cursory thought or point during a few daily sessions but to me this was the organization’s (NCAA) opportunity to take a firm stance on one of their rules and issue a **** penalty for its violation.

Then it steps away having done its job and chips fall where they may regarding civil suits between Wisconsin and Lucas or Miami (which are still a crock of **** because they were based on a MOU) but that opens the door for Ole Miss to actively tamper with the Clemson d post-enrollment with no penalty. You can’t cry about the latter without recognizing the former.

Never heard it once mentioned as a talking point by other media.

Of course it had been well established that the NCAA is a hollow skull a long time ago but if you had fallen back on the basic principle of membership twenty years ago, and chose to not to engage in selective enforcement, maybe the snowball doesn’t have so much debris.

Agreed.

The sad part about all of this, particularly when it comes to the new NCAA rule to punish institutions for taking a player who isn't in the Portal, as well as the language in the order that addresses transfers, is that it is SELECTIVE OUTRAGE.

Even worse, IT IS SELECTIVE OUTRAGE OVER A FALSE AND MANUFACTURED EVENT.

Wisconsin flopped and "drew the foul". Wisconsin COMPLETELY FAKED, and then stirred up mass hysteria, by not entering Xavier Lucas's name in the Portal. And the NCAA collaborated with those cheeseheads by FAKE ACTING POWERLESS to do anything about Wisconsin's refusal.

Think about that. The same institution (the NCAA) that claimed it couldn't force Wisconsin TO PUT ONE NAME IN THE PORTAL is now "empowered" to make rules restricting transfers.

Yeah...let that sink in...I don't trust the NCAA farther than I can throw them...

 

[TheOriginalCane]

Is there an emoji for 1000000%

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

You gotta relax. This is just the first of many attempts to try and preserve college athletics. The sad part is, nobody is ever going to agree. I’ve been saying this from the start: these schools will eventually form their own league, completely separate from the NCAA. I can see it working a lot like the Premier League.

Oh, you sweet summer child, open up your eyes.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

How exactly is this a joke? This fixes the number one issues that has been ruining college sports- unlimited transfers. Before the NIL era, every player (besides grad transfers) had to sit out a year if they transfered. There wasn’t a lot of complaining back then

Sir, it doesn't "fix" anything.

And college sports is not being "ruined". The viewership is higher than ever. Merch sales are higher than ever. Schools are renovating stadiums and charging more money than ever.

Waaah, waaaah, college sports is being "ruined". The numbers would indicate otherwise.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

It’s not a law, but it’s also not meaningless. If federal funding and enforcement start getting tied to NIL and transfer rules, schools will adjust pretty quickly. And stuff like this is usually a first step toward actual legislation.

The sad truth is that nobody is going to agree on anything, but least it’s trying to fix the biggest issue in the sport right now.

As I Political Science major and law school graduate, I would simply say that your conception of "executive orders" as merely the first step towards actual legislation is not supported by facts or history.

This is not about "agreeing on anything". Nobody needs "agreement". We needed the ACTUAL organization that can make and enforce its own rules (the NCAA) to have done so YEARS AGO, prior to the Alston case, and INCLUDING an actual enforcement of Wisconsin's obligation to enter a name into the Portal. We also needed politicians to stay out of the way, which Congress has managed to do very well.

There's no need for a "first step towards actual legislation". The NCAA abdicated that responsibility for decades, and now they are begging politicians to do the dirty work for them.

Again, "transfers" are NOT "the biggest issue in the sport right now". Payment is. And please note how the NCAA is NOT moving towards a collective bargaining solution that would dignify and compensate the actual players who make up "the sport" that we profess to love.

It's always been a very simple solution that does not require Congressional action or an executive order.

C. B. A.

Problem solved.