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Executive Order Limits NCAA Athletes to Five Seasons in Five Years; One Transfer without Sitting Out a Year

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PennsylvaniaCane said:
Serious question. The whole 5 years of total eligibility thing. We have 4-5 guys, some probable starters who are in their 6th year plus. How does this affect them? NCAA says yes you can have a med redshirt and play, now Trump says no you can’t?

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They will grandfather those players in for the 2026 to kick that can down the road to 2027.

The department of education will try to bully universities with threatening to pull federal funding if they don’t comply with the EO.

But I’ll be surprised if anything comes of this, especially this year.
 
TemplarCane said:
As I would expect the EO does not address the employment and collective bargaining issues that need to be resolved properly for there to be any stability in college athletics.

Is everyone a stakeholder in college athletics except the athletes?

The NCAA is their own worst enemy. These issues could have been addressed and stabilized a decade or more ago.
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Until the stakeholders who historically had all the power realize the paradigm has shifted, they will keep butting their heads against the wall as they will continue to lose lawsuit after lawsuit to the stakeholders who historically had no power - the athletes.

The best part is they did it to themselves. They could have continued this charade if they didn't get too greedy, but when conferences are poaching other schools to get bigger TV contracts to the point a nearly century old major conference is basically dead and college coaches make as much, and in some cases, more than NFL coaches it is impossible to look at college football as anything other than a for-profit industry that is restricting the employment opportunities for its employees - the athletes.

Just rip the bandaid off. Announce the athletes are employees and come up with a CBA. Quit delaying the inevitable.
 
CaneinBroward said:
Until the stakeholders who historically had all the power realize the paradigm has shifted, they will keep butting their heads against the wall as they will continue to lose lawsuit after lawsuit to the stakeholders who historically had no power - the athletes.

The best part is they did it to themselves. They could have continued this charade if they didn't get too greedy, but when conferences are poaching other schools to get bigger TV contracts to the point a nearly century old major conference is basically dead and college coaches make as much, and in some cases, more than NFL coaches it is impossible to look at college football as anything other than a for-profit industry that is restricting the employment opportunities for its employees - the athletes.

Just rip the bandaid off. Announce the athletes are employees and come up with a CBA. Quit delaying the inevitable.
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I know this board is more interested in watching Mandingo **** than current events, but for those who are chiding the President for getting involved in college football, NCAA officials and others (including Nick Saban) requested Trump’s involvement. Thanks for reading and now return to Mandingo bangs Riley Reid.
 
Executive orders have no legal effect whatsoever. No school can implement this, nor can the NCAA, based on executive order.

Things like tihs aren’t worth the paper on I which they are printed. This is nothing but publicity. If you pay attention to this, you are paying attention to publicity, and you have no one to blame but yourself for the time you waste reading or thinking about this.

My comment is apolitical as it stands true regardless of the party in whom the presidency rests.
 
bdcane4eva said:
Read the part about NIL...and rev share tbh..
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wonder how NILs tied to institutions will/have insulated themselves from this...

the administration will no doubt hold funds from programs. People say EO have no weight yet tariffs were introduced and enacted because of EO. This administration will absolutely 100% withhold federal funds from institutions they feel are violating this. And it can 100% hold up in court.

Also, if NIL collectives are being forced to pay without linking payment to playing, doesn't that do away with these lawsuits against players leaving programs? Because it seems like it's saying payment is based on promotion "that is not tied to participation in the athletics program of a particular higher education institution".
 
dukemv said:
wonder how NILs tied to institutions will/have insulated themselves from this...

the administration will no doubt hold funds from programs. People say EO have no weight yet tariffs were introduced and enacted because of EO. This administration will absolutely 100% withhold federal funds from institutions they feel are violating this. And it can 100% hold up in court.

Also, if NIL collectives are being forced to pay without linking payment to playing, doesn't that do away with these lawsuits against players leaving programs? Because it seems like it's saying payment is based on promotion "that is not tied to participation in the athletics program of a particular higher education institution".
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I defer to others more knowledgeable on the subject, but the tariffs were upended in court from what I can tell. My company just received guidance on applying for tariff refunds from the government this week.

I agree with you the government will withhold funds from schools. However, whether it holds up in court is another matter.
 
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RF-4CCane said:
A little history lesson might prove helpful.

UM, Notre Dame, USC etc., while private, are all voluntary members of the NCAA and bound by its rules and decisions. Well, in theory, for better or often worse.

“The NCAA was founded on March 31, 1906, as the Intercollegiate Athletic Association of the United States (IAAUS) with
62 charter member institutions. Initiated by President Theodore Roosevelt to reform college football, it was renamed the NCAA in 1910.“
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This detail serves as a source of frustration for me regarding the action or inaction of the institution as a whole. Selective enforcement over time erodes the basic principle that everyone joined the organization (and could withdraw) so they ought to follow the rules.

In a recent close-to-home example, why was there even a single thought of entertainment regarding Wisconsin and the Big Ten’s pursuit of some sort of NCAA-levied penalty against X. Lucas or the University when Wisconsin (as an institution) should have been punished for a failure to comply with the basic mandates for entering a player into the portal?

I recall D mentioning as kind of a cursory thought or point during a few daily sessions but to me this was the organization’s (NCAA) opportunity to take a firm stance on one of their rules and issue a **** penalty for its violation.

Then it steps away having done its job and chips fall where they may regarding civil suits between Wisconsin and Lucas or Miami (which are still a crock of **** because they were based on a MOU) but that opens the door for Ole Miss to actively tamper with the Clemson d post-enrollment with no penalty. You can’t cry about the latter without recognizing the former.

Never heard it once mentioned as a talking point by other media.

Of course it had been well established that the NCAA is a hollow skull a long time ago but if you had fallen back on the basic principle of membership twenty years ago, and chose to not to engage in selective enforcement, maybe the snowball doesn’t have so much debris.
 
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DTP said:
What a joke.
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How exactly is this a joke? This fixes the number one issues that has been ruining college sports- unlimited transfers. Before the NIL era, every player (besides grad transfers) had to sit out a year if they transfered. There wasn’t a lot of complaining back then
 
ST26 said:
How exactly is this a joke? This fixes the number one issues that has been ruining college sports- unlimited transfers. Before the NIL era, every player (besides grad transfers) had to sit out a year if they transfered. There wasn’t a lot of complaining back then
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It’s a joke because an Exec Order has no legal effect whatsoever. Indeed nothing will have any binding, legal effect so long as there is no collective bargaining agreement.

The idea maybe valid and useful but the impact is 0000000%
 
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