Evals

[Dwinstitles]

Lots of heated debates on the recruiting board when it comes to this. I’m not familiar with his time at Oregon tbh but wanted to mark this thread for future discussion

I’m just trying to present data and then we can analyze this together since I’m not entirely sure how the process went with some guys and of course it’s VERY EARLY to discuss completely but I’m seeing some good things with some 3 stars. One huge issue we’ve had over the years is filling out our classes with guys that never even contribute and transfer to lower classification programs

2022 class (Mario and Manny combined not sure who is completely responsible)

Colby Young: our #1 WR entering the season. Pretty sure this was all Mario. Offers from Albany and Stony Brook. Lists offers from Pitt and FSU but not entirely sure what that means

Matthew McCoy: pretty sure this was all Mario too early to tell but the buzz is great here

Anez Cooper: starting RG. This one was debated but I believe this was all Mario as well

Jaden Harris: heavily in the mix at safety and/or DB. Offered by Manny, the timeline gets tricky that year but I think Mario closed the deal. Not that Manny couldn’t or wouldn’t but not sure

Ahmad Moten: heavy minutes on the DL projected for him. Manny offered and it’s tricky again but he was heavily recruited by some big programs at the end and Mario won out

These were the 5 3 stars from 2022 and that’s really encouraging imo

The 2023 class it’s way too early of course but some nice early buzz for 3 stars like Pulliam, Spencer, Kinsler, Emory etc

The 2021 class, Mannys highest ranked class (#11) had 10 3 star players (not including Borregales) and by my count only 2 are still here. Kam was clearly an amazing story and Jacolby George has struggled but seems primed to have a nice season. The rest of them never made an impact here and that’s been part of the story of the last 20 years

This isn’t a pro-Mario, anti-Manny sunshine thread but it’s something we gotta keep trending in the right direction

And imagine Manny aint even want Kam. This is a great post J, his lower eval kids look better than every other staff besides Butch. The past evals were insanely bad and people thought they were good (even myself when I first followed recruiting). We have gotten wiser J. When we see bs players we know when we see them, we have seen it before.

 

[BS85]

1 post saying the "mopes" are idiots and DON'T learn from the past even though they've been right 100% of the time for 20+ years. Apparently being a slurper makes you smarter? I guess it must because I'm not good enough at math to figure that one out.

Also, I count 3 off topic/*****ing posts in this thread and it's all ABOUT the mythical mope, but not BY the mope......oh the irony and lack of self awareness is hilarious.

 

[Jassid82]

Great thread. I would argue we are banking on elite level evaluation skills from Zo and Mario when it comes to 50% of this incoming class. Thats a pretty high number. But you get the benefit of the doubt when you are hitting on guys Anez Cooper who didnt get serious interest from Bama or Auburn from his own state, Colbie Young who nobody had even heard of, and the other guys OP brought up.

I think what concerns me more is hes not hitting on Portal guys at the rate Manny did. Some of these portal guys Mario has brought in have been absolute trash. Horrible evalutations as a whole. Needs to button that part up. This portal class was top 10 so maybe fortunes will change this year. Our season will actually depend on it.