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ESPN Coaching Hot Seat Report 10/12

Most of these national writers only have connections to a small number of schools. Often times the schools they were previously on the beat for.

That leads to a lot of inaccurate and wildly speculative articles where the writer just regurgitates prevailing thoughts and attitudes about a program. Your average CIS poster has a better pulse on this stuff than this writer does.
 
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Alex Jones said:
They don’t get butthurt. You’re the guy discrediting somebody that’s reputation is pretty **** clean.

What’s funny is you tell them not to be butthurt when I’m wrong but you come off as the type that will rub it in when said person is finally wrong. Even though they have three years of being right at a high rate.

******* like you get in their feels and say people “are sucking me off”, but maybe they’re showing appreciation that I give them accurate and free info. You come off as a hater. Actually 169 posts in 9 years lol, you aren’t a hater you’re a troll. Now I’ve wasted my time on a troll smh.
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Speaking for a person who paid for wrong Intel for years I have to approve this message lol
 
Alex Jones said:
You said “nobody on this board has hit anywhere close 99 % , so called insiders and wrong all the time” . The last one being complete bs. That’s why he got worked up, tell the whole story. My only misses have been recruiting and thats not alot. That’s why folks “ suck me off”. They appreciate getting legit free info.

I’m not going to drop my stats because people here and other boards know what’s up. You can see Cribby posts copied and pasted on a lot of cane sites.

When I said changes I said “ gun to my head”. Is that definitive ? No, on things I’m told I see now way he’s involved with football at the minimum. Especially if Mario comes, that wont work. When Manny was hired I was told “ they’ll sink or swim together“. That was three years ago.

I’m only definitive on things I know that are done or factual. Like when I said Feldmans story on the buyout was 100 % bs and King was done for the year, that was three weeks ago.
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Thing is, I never brought you or anyone else’s name into it. I said “board insiders”. For every time you may be right, 5 other board insiders are wrong. People have a pathological need to get cred and be accepted on here. I clearly don’t feel the same, which may be why I tend to rustle some jimmies.

If you are posting a lot, and you’re wrong on 1/5 posts, that means you are wrong often. When I said “all the time” I didn’t mean it literally, I meant it as in wrong often. You may be right a lot more than you’re wrong, but nobody knows everything.

Thanks for sharing what you know. Until any changes are officially announced I will just choose to keep doubting cause I can’t get my hopes up only to have them dashed again. Nothing against you or the veracity of your info, that’s just me.
 
Big Pimpin Cane said:
Thing is, I never brought you or anyone else’s name into it. I said “board insiders”. For every time you may be right, 5 other board insiders are wrong. People have a pathological need to get cred and be accepted on here. I clearly don’t feel the same, which may be why I tend to rustle some jimmies.

If you are posting a lot, and you’re wrong on 1/5 posts, that means you are wrong often. When I said “all the time” I didn’t mean it literally, I meant it as in wrong often. You may be right a lot more than you’re wrong, but nobody knows everything.

Thanks for sharing what you know. Until any changes are officially announced I will just choose to keep doubting cause I can’t get my hopes up only to have them dashed again. Nothing against you or the veracity of your info, that’s just me.
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Big Pimpin Cane said:
An insider article by Adam Rittenberg talked about Miami, LSU, USC, and VA Tech and Texas Tech.

Highlights

We might be in for a ****** year and a half:

- “Coaches who have faced the Hurricanes have described them as a bunch of talented parts without much cohesion or development.” 🤬
- “How realistic is a coaching change at Miami? It’s not as likely as some Miami fans might hope. The noise around Miami doesn’t always match up with the financial reality or the desire to go through a coaching transition.”
- “I think they’d like to move on if they can, an industry source said, but money is always a concern there.”
- Another source said “I don’t think they care enough to pay what it’s going to cost.”
- said we might go after guys like Billy Napier or Jamey Chadwell. No mention of Stoops or anyone else other than a few coordinators (but did say we will prob avoid a first time head coach).

Mario ain’t coming here:

- He said that his buyout is $9 million if he is hired before Jan 14, 2022. It goes down to $6.5 million after that but our admin isn’t gonna pony up for buying out Manuela, buying out Mario, and then paying Mario a minimum of $5 million plus.
- Said that the buyout would prohibit us from making a serious run and that even if he took a hometown discount the overall cost would be too high.
- he said LSU will go after him if he’s their #1 target and money will be no object. They swim in the deep end, we swim in the kiddie pool
- also mentioned Stoops for them (not for us) but said they likely won’t view him as a home run hire
- other names included Franklin, Fischer cause of LSU ties, Lane Kiffin, and even possibly Lincoln Riley

Concluding statement on Miami: “Ultimately, a lack of motivation to make a move, financial considerations, and a top candidate (Mario) who is likely not attainable mean Diaz will be fine for 2022. But he needs to show progress in the second half, beginning this week against UNC.”
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Whoever that person is they're not too tough of an insider. That's a cis insider at best... Carol was willing to pay 8mil last time on buyout and is fully aware what it will cost now. That woman ON HER OWN IS VEXXED WITH THIS NONSENSE and she got something called Bs behind her. As in billions... That's on her own. 2 other billionaires that I know of on on board with her & again that's only the people I know of. Besides that she has 2 of the 5 major players on the board who are also financial backers of the program on the same page as her as well. If Mario doesn't come it's not over money on this end. It's because he doesn't trust this administration to get out of their own way finally. That'll take more than a financial commitment to prove. Far as Mandy goes I've told y'all it's gonna take more than just some basic losses to anyone EXCEPT THE SEMENHOLES to get rid of him midseason. They are aware of he's gonna go than it's the sooner the better if the focus is to salvage this recruiting class. Biggest concern for them is how to deal with the Blake situation because most of the board has serious questions about him now (as if they shouldn't have all along.)
 
Alex Jones said:
You said “nobody on this board has hit anywhere close 99 % , so called insiders and wrong all the time” . The last one being complete bs. That’s why he got worked up, tell the whole story. My only misses have been recruiting and thats not alot. That’s why folks “ suck me off” ( even though that’s not necessary). They do appreciate getting legit free info.

I’m not going to drop my stats because people here and other boards know what’s up. You can see Cribby posts copied and pasted on a lot of cane sites.

When I said changes I said “ gun to my head”. Is that definitive ? No, on things I’m told I see now way he’s involved with football at the minimum. Especially if Mario comes, that wont work. When Manny was hired I was told “ they’ll sink or swim together“. That was three years ago.

I’m only definitive on things I know that are done or factual. Like when I said Feldmans story on the buyout was 100 % bs and King was done for the year, that was three weeks ago.
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Bruh. C'mon man. THIS ain't that serious.
 
Go Canes!! said:
Everyone saying we paid money to temple so we can do it again is omitting important info:

1) There was no buyout on our end, Richt retired
2) They paid Manny $2-3 million less than a new coach will cost and the new coach isn’t going sign some buyout friendly deal.
3) Manny retained the entire defensive staff. A new coach will likely want all his own guys.

There’s a big difference between a one time payment that netted out to about $3-$4 million when compared to Richt’s salary and all the points listed below.
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Maybe your not doing this on purpose. Probably just not aware. Most position coaches don't get any form of a buyout if not retained at all. It's actually a VERY small percentage of them that may get one(as in POSSIBLY the oc & DC) in our instance DC & head coach are one and the same. So replacing this staph with a new staff isn't relevant to this discussion at all. Neither is the situation with cmr not taking a penny of the buy out to the end goal relevant (if the discussion is towards Mario as a private donor was footing the entirety of that bill and would now as well) the only way cmr situation was relevant is through Mandy's 2hr 4million dollar buyout to temple which the university apparently thought was a bargain because mark left 10mil that was already earmarked to him on the table because he's an amazing man who cared about the program and putting the best foot forward. But it was still the university paying what it didn't need to towards Mandy and temple opposed to letting a private donor foot the bill for Mario and make the right hire.
 
streetja said:
Everyone should take national outlets reporting on Miami with a grain of salt. Miami is so unbothered to be a real football program that no one has sources inside the program. Who tf out there that takes themselves seriously would bother connecting with Jen Strawley and co.?
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From my understanding her and the NCAA have had talks lately. Let's all pray to baby Jesus they save us like that. One of the last shalalalala spots freeing up.
 
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Poopscoop said:
Maybe your not doing this on purpose. Probably just not aware. Most position coaches don't get any form of a buyout if not retained at all. It's actually a VERY small percentage of them that may get one(as in POSSIBLY the oc & DC) in our instance DC & head coach are one and the same. So replacing this staph with a new staff isn't relevant to this discussion at all. Neither is the situation with cmr not taking a penny of the buy out to the end goal relevant (if the discussion is towards Mario as a private donor was footing the entirety of that bill and would now as well) the only way cmr situation was relevant is through Mandy's 2hr 4million dollar buyout to temple which the university apparently thought was a bargain because mark left 10mil that was already earmarked to him on the table because he's an amazing man who cared about the program and putting the best foot forward. But it was still the university paying what it didn't need to towards Mandy and temple opposed to letting a private donor foot the bill for Mario and make the right hire.
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So if a guy like Rumph had a year left on his deal after last season and got fired the school wouldn’t owe him anything?
 
Go Canes!! said:
So if a guy like Rumph had a year left on his deal after last season and got fired the school wouldn’t owe him anything?
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Unless he had a clause worked into his contract which is rare than no he wouldn't. It's not saying it can't happen. Simply it's a rare situation. It would only be likely out of people who are very well known and respected. That's basically a way of knowing it wouldn't be an issue for us.
 
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Alex Jones said:
Dead on.

This season broke me. I may be a mope going forward. We had the entire team returning , a couple good recruiting classes , all coming off a 8-3 season. I even posted in the off season if manny can’t get to 9-10 wins it’ll never happen for him.
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Same here.
 
Go Canes!! said:
Everyone saying we paid money to temple so we can do it again is omitting important info:

1) There was no buyout on our end, Richt retired
2) They paid Manny $2-3 million less than a new coach will cost and the new coach isn’t going sign some buyout friendly deal.
3) Manny retained the entire defensive staff. A new coach will likely want all his own guys.

There’s a big difference between a one time payment that netted out to about $3-$4 million when compared to Richt’s salary and all the points listed below.
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No facts allowed in here that doesn't support the mope talking points.
 
DTP said:
You can’t pretend you’re broke when it’s public record you spent $4 million to buy out Manny Diaz’s Temple contract. That’s not buyout money for a big name or some hot up and comer HC. It was money for a guy who had never been a head coach ever.
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UM isn't broke but did you read post #17 ?
 
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