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Ereck Flowers a Bust ?

As a 'Cane alumnus and Giant fan, I'll say this, the criticism is heavy-- and deserved, though maybe overstated.

1) He is the most penalized Giant--- and theyre usually drive killers. Many away from the ball/play.

2) Saw a postgame where 2 former Giant OL (Deihl/O'Hara) termed him a "coach killer" and blamed his laziness and stubbornness on getting Pat Flaherty a long time OL NFL level asst coach fired b/c he couldn't "reach him." You don't see former players pile-on a kid like that unless theyre ****ed and have insight (e.g. ears on the scene from current players and coaches).

3) Has horrible hand placement and is slow in his footwork on pass rushes, and is not improving the way most rookie NFL OL position players do from year one to year two.

4) He is only starting b/c Giants are woefully thin at Oline-- if he has a future with the team its at RT-- he is not an NFL LT and has not lived up to the billing. Still making rookie mistakes. and is lazy.

5) He seldom has a good game, or stands out for the right reasons.
 
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He almost just cost the gmen a td they didnt call his obvious holding. And he has one of the best ol coaches in the nfl
 
How's his technique year 2 in the NFL? Nevermind, you are right, it's definitely Kehoe why he is sucking in the NFL. I mean, I still blame my 6th grade writing teacher why I can't write a complete sentence.
 
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Flowers is kind of an enigma to me. He was never dominant in the Seantrel Henderson type of way here, I was surprised he went so high.
 
QuatroCane said:
Flowers is kind of an enigma to me. He was never dominant in the Seantrel Henderson type of way here, I was surprised he went so high.
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The only thing Seantrel was dominant at was getting suspended. He was a solid player but he never dominated.
 
I still think Flowers would be better served as a RT. He's out there on an island in the Giants' Packers-like scheme. He's also 23. The Giants should dump him and let him come to the Phins to bookend with Tunsil.
 
Never understood why he was such an early pick. He was solid but hardly spectacular here.
 
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LuCane said:
I still think Flowers would be better served as a RT. He's out there on an island in the Giants' Packers-like scheme. He's also 23. The Giants should dump him and let him come to the Phins to bookend with Tunsil.
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You Sir get out of my head!
 
A little like Vernon Carey for me. I think he would be ok at RT, and good at guard, but I don't think he has the feet do be a dominant LT in the NFL.
 
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