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JD08 said:
Are you suggesting that Enos has called perfect game plans? There's no room for improvement?

Or are the CMU and UNC defensive lines THAT good?
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There’s only so much you can do to help out. You cant chip, max protect, use a TE to help every single play.

What enos said about Zion is true. When he gets beat is normally because he is getting beat off the snap and out of his stance. He then uses very bad form to try and recover. That’s what freshman do to be honest.

Has enos been perfect? Of course not but CMU I believe will be an outlier than the norm. If anyone wants to get up in their feel feels about something. Focus on third down conversions
 
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I mean, we would be pretty unstoppable with this ninja, you gotta admit. Put a clamshell on his helmet and we'd be good to go.

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Fawk_U Haters said:
There’s only so much you can do to help out. You cant chip, max protect, use a TE to help every single play.

What enos said about Zion is true. When he gets beat is normally because he is getting beat off the snap and out of his stance. He then uses very bad form to try and recover. That’s what freshman do to be honest.

Has enos been perfect? Of course not but CMU I believe will be an outlier than the norm. If anyone wants to get up in their feel feels about something. Focus on third down conversions
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This sounds exactly like the stubborn coaches. "Just play better..."

And you can most definitely chip, max protect, double team and us TEs all game long. But there are about 50 more things you could do as well beyond just telling the kid to do better as you watch people run by him.

CMU is not an outlier when the same issues were just as evident with UF and UNC. Enos has been dreadful all year, This notion that some have that there is nothing you can do for a poor OL just highlights that that person has no idea whats going on.

We will see what he really does vs VT but if it is more of the same with similar results then he is an absolute idiot.
 
Fawk_U Haters said:
There’s only so much you can do to help out. You cant chip, max protect, use a TE to help every single play.

What enos said about Zion is true. When he gets beat is normally because he is getting beat off the snap and out of his stance. He then uses very bad form to try and recover. That’s what freshman do to be honest.

Has enos been perfect? Of course not but CMU I believe will be an outlier than the norm. If anyone wants to get up in their feel feels about something. Focus on third down conversions
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ShadowSpring said:
Everyone and everything needs to improve. Enos is not a magician
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Of course he isn't a magician, nor is he the root of all our offensive woes. But he needs to use every tool at his disposal to gain yardage. If we do better on 1st and 2nd down, then 3rd downs will be easier. If Jarren is in the shotgun, that's an extra couple of steps for the defense and an extra half second to make a play. They have plenty of short yardage plays at their disposal. Once those start to happen, the defense has to adjust, opening up our run game when theyre least able to defend it.

There's no single big problem, it's a combination of a lot of little ones.
 
NE Canes said:
This sounds exactly like the stubborn coaches. "Just play better..."

And you can most definitely chip, max protect, double team and us TEs all game long. But there are about 50 more things you could do as well beyond just telling the kid to do better as you watch people run by him.

CMU is not an outlier when the same issues were just as evident with UF and UNC. Enos has been dreadful all year, This notion that some have that there is nothing you can do for a poor OL just highlights that that person has no idea whats going on.

We will see what he really does vs VT but if it is more of the same with similar results then he is an absolute idiot.
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Name a few things you can do all game long to help out? Your just a hater of Enos and that makes your judgement clouded.

And no you can’t take some of your best weapons in the air game and ask them to help out all game. Keep playing your play station thinking that.
 
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JD08 said:
Of course he isn't a magician, nor is he the root of all our offensive woes. But he needs to use every tool at his disposal to gain yardage. If we do better on 1st and 2nd down, then 3rd downs will be easier. If Jarren is in the shotgun, that's an extra couple of steps for the defense and an extra half second to make a play. They have plenty of short yardage plays at their disposal. Once those start to happen, the defense has to adjust, opening up our run game when theyre least able to defend it.

There's no single big problem, it's a combination of a lot of little ones.
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Can you please explain the saying being in the shotgun buys him more time? Why do you think this? How does it buy him more time? I’d argue that time is wasted by waiting for the ball, finding his grip, and then having a lazy drop actually shortens the amount of time u have to make your decision. Going out of the gun doesn’t magically buy you more time.
 
Fawk_U Haters said:
Can you please explain the saying being in the shotgun buys him more time? Why do you think this? How does it buy him more time? I’d argue that time is wasted by waiting for the ball, finding his grip, and then having a lazy drop actually shortens the amount of time u have to make your decision. Going out of the gun doesn’t magically buy you more time.
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Sure, it takes less time to hike the ball to a QB in the shotgun than it does for him to receive the ball under center then run backwards to the same spot.
 
Pretty much every major innovation on offense over the last 40 years has come from teams that did not have the talent in the trenches to just line up and run the ball at their opponents.

Bill Walsh incorporated a shorter, timing based passing attack that use short, safe passes to replace running plays.

Lavell Edwards incorporated wider splits on his offensive line to help them pass protect better. His tackles would not get so easily beat around the corner if you force the defense to go an extra yard wider in pass rush.

Hal Mumme used those same wide splits and put his quarterback in the shotgun to eliminate the extra time it takes a quarterback to make a drop back. Then he used a lot of the sort passing concepts introduced by Walsh to get the ball out of his quarterback's hands faster.

Literally the entire modern passing game was invented because those coaches didn't have good offensive linemen.

I don't understand the thinking of "well our line can't protect for more than 1.5 seconds so, let's use up that entire 1.5 seconds by making the quarterback take a snap from under center and then make him drop back 5 or 7 steps. " Putting the quarterback in the shotgun eliminates those crucial seconds of pass protection that you waste making a quarterback drop back to pass. Snap the ball, the quarterback is already going through his progressions immediately and can get rid of the ball quickly in the same time it might take him to drop back from under center, set his feet and start his progressions.

We can make adjustments to better use the personnel available or we can just try to force something and hope it eventually starts to work. At least, for this season, Enos might be better off dumping a lot of the slow developing stuff in favor of more quick, short passes.
 
CaneDogX said:
Guys he had one bad game. CMU. A game he didnt' scheme for... We torched UNC and we gave UF fits despite allowing 10 sacks and it being their first game with the offense. I think Enos is doing a terrific job coaching Williams and holding Thomas accountable for doing more. I only blame Enos for not doing more to scheme CMU. Obviously, he was gonna do his thing regardless of what CMU was doing.

He did things against UNC's defense even Clemson couldn't do... And UNC was equally amped to play us as they did Clemson. Hise offense had a bad 1st quarter off a bye week.
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You are by far the blindest homer on here, even worse then Go Canes. Enos is doing a great job, really?! How is that when we have one of the worst producing offenses in the country and that includes our blow out win over a jr college/glorified highschool team. I’m telling you man, I give you credit youre a troll of all trolls with you statements regarding this offense. The offense is worse statistically then last year! Let that sink in, Enos is worse then richt. Lmao you’re beyond saving.
 
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1st and goal from the 10 shouldn't automatically mean 22 personnel.

Same way that 3rd and long shouldn't automatically mean 3 DL.
 
Fawk_U Haters said:
Name a few things you can do all game long to help out? Your just a hater of Enos and that makes your judgement clouded.

And no you can’t take some of your best weapons in the air game and ask them to help out all game. Keep playing your play station thinking that.
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Really? I'm just a "hater" and a "Playstation" whatever.

I mean seriously. Are you a teenager?

If you want to discuss we can discuss but simply blindly ignoring anything you don't understand does not help. If you don't understand that's fine I can teach you but you need to get passed ignoring anything that threatens your current believes.

How many offense plays are run a game? How many of those are pass plays? Do you honestly think you can only chip the DL once a game? So we get one chip, one double and one TE block a game? No. You could have the DL running in circles with his head spinning all game long if you choose.

But, no. You know more than everyone else. "he just needs play better...."
 
Fawk_U Haters said:
Can you please explain the saying being in the shotgun buys him more time? Why do you think this? How does it buy him more time? I’d argue that time is wasted by waiting for the ball, finding his grip, and then having a lazy drop actually shortens the amount of time u have to make your decision. Going out of the gun doesn’t magically buy you more time.
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Not only is it actually quicker in shotgun, it is better for young learning QBs to not have to drop back. It allows them to focus and see the field better for reading blitzes, DLs and LBs. Allows them to see the WRs better.

This simple stuff that every college and pro team in the country are doing.
 
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Fawk_U Haters said:
Can you please explain the saying being in the shotgun buys him more time? Why do you think this? How does it buy him more time? I’d argue that time is wasted by waiting for the ball, finding his grip, and then having a lazy drop actually shortens the amount of time u have to make your decision. Going out of the gun doesn’t magically buy you more time.
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Really dude? Well when our line can’t stop anyone and under center puts you closer to the defense lineman and requires more time to to do your drop back steps to see field before you can even through the ball and when that happens the dline is already in his face. You can’t be this stupid
With your comment, your trolling right? Because the whole reason shotgun was invented was to save time by not having the QB do 5/7 step drops to see the field behind a suspect oline. Since you clearly know nothing about the QB position the shot gun allows him to immediately see the field to
Anticipate who’s open and through the ball before the defense has a chance to reach him since he’s far behind the line of scrimmage. Seriously dude, your just messing with us right? Because no way you make that statement above if your not. Smh
 
NicKane said:
Really dude? Well when our line can’t stop anyone and under center puts you closer to the defense lineman and requires more time to to do your drop back steps to see field before you can even through the ball and when that happens the dline is already in his face. You can’t be this stupid
With your comment, your trolling right? Because the whole reason shotgun was invented was to save time by not having the QB do 5/7 step drops to see the field behind a suspect oline. Since you clearly know nothing about the QB position the shot gun allows him to immediately see the field to
Anticipate who’s open and through the ball before the defense has a chance to reach him since he’s far behind the line of scrimmage. Seriously dude, your just messing with us right? Because no way you make that statement above if your not. Smh
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actually your the dumb *** here. No I’m not messing with you but your dumb to the game. In the gun the QBs just about never take a proper drop therefore where they start is almost where they finish. The DE can take a more direct route to the QB. Want proof go look at the snaps at the end of the half. Go look at all of jarrens drops in the gun. He’s about a yard away from where he starts. Also jarrens timing is off in the gun except for RPOs. Go to the tape. When under center you do have better timing, the DE doesn’t know where your launch point is at, and oh by the way it kind of changes the angle the defense needs to take to the QB

We get it you’ve had your limits and you want a spread so anything enos does short of air raid ur going to cry like the baby back beokeback mountain type you truly are

Now go And cry like a brokeback in your next 100 posts because that’s what u r
 
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