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5NC4 said:
Having Mario as our HC and Mirabal as OL coach essentially fixes the #1 issue in S FL recruiting and the main issue all of our QB's have had dating back to Ken Dorsey with perhaps the top O-Line we ever had. This may be an unpopular opinion, but perhaps the very smart weak-armed Dorsey gets more credit than he should for the success of the Hurricanes teams in the early 2000's due to playing behind our best OL and all of the skill talent one could care to have. Essentially, that team carried him. Dorsey was underscored when he was recuited as well, but had the luxury of playing with the best talent in college football. The same luxury the QB's on this roster will have because of Mario and Mirabal fixing the OL, not to mention the other positions on the roster. Emory's Elite 11 performances were indeed very impressive, yet this guy above disagrees about him being a talented QB.
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When I watch old film Dorsey doesn't "pop." He doesn't look impressive but I ask myself, "what else would I have wanted a QB to do?" and the answer is nothing. His stats, while solid today, where enough to twice be up for the Heisman. Actually, that was an example of the OC playing to the QBs and teams strengths, which was just being better then everyone.
 
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SayWhat said:
Perhaps, but Stetson is far better than what most give him credit for. He improved each year as he got more comfortable with things. NFL wise there's some doubt, but ****, he went higher than Dorsey did with much better stats.
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Dorsey wasn’t an NFL QB obviously he lacked the arm talent. What Dorsey had was the brains and he had a unique ability to squeeze the ball into tight spaces that some of the “rifle arm” QBs can’t do.

But as someone else stated another thing that made Dorsey so good was the monster OL on front of him. He never got touched… and he was throwing to pro bowlers all over the field.
 
What's crazy is how things have changed since the Dorsey days regarding what kind of stats QB's put up. He was a **** good QB and made everyone around him better. Still, looking at his stats from back then, they wouldn't be that impressive today minus the win totals.

Obviously the game has changed, but 56/57 percent completion percentage his last two years. YPC, we massacre QB's for that today.

That was 20 years ago. Heck, when I'm bored I may go back and look at QB stats prior TO Dorsey.

He was a great leader and threw a nice ball. Was the best QB in college at the time. Today that would be middle of the pack numbers though.
 
mcnaire2004 said:
Elite 11 is where the quarterback's that Mario doesn't recruit go. It's like a support group. Those QBs don't have the talent to succeed in a power spread offense
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Nobody likes a 3 star QB as much as miami. We have been finding “diamonds in the rough” the last 20 years.
 
mcnaire2004 said:
When I watch old film Dorsey doesn't "pop." He doesn't look impressive but I ask myself, "what else would I have wanted a QB to do?" and the answer is nothing. His stats, while solid today, where enough to twice be up for the Heisman. Actually, that was an example of the OC playing to the QBs and teams strengths, which was just being better then everyone.
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His leadership qualities were through the roof. He kept the offense focused between drives. Almost every starting QB we've had since him has had more talent. I've yet to see 1 of them command the locker room and sideline like him. I'm not surprised he's an NFL OC now.
 
At the end, you're just playing percentages. I may be wrong, but it seems that the hit rate of 5 stars is better than 4 stars is better than 3 stars and so forth and so on. Some hits up there and some misses. But the hits are 1st rounders.
 
Dorsey's football strengths on the football field are what have made him a successful modern NFL coach. Highly intelligent, great knowledge and understanding of the game, exceptional film study and the ability to relay to his team critical observations. Strong awareness of breaking down defenses to optimize his team's offensive success and execution and strong leadership that demands respect, attention and focus. We were lucky to truly have a a coach on the field disguised as a efficient and serviceable quarterback.
 
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Dude said:
Winners
1999: Brock Berlin
2000: Brodie Croyle
2001: Ben Olson
2002: Kyle Wright
2003: Rhett Bomar
2004: Mark Sanchez
2005: Matt Stafford
2006: John Brantley
2007: Blaine Gabbert
2008: Aaron Murray
2009: Jake Heaps
2010: Jeff Driskel
2011: Jameis Winston, Tanner Magnum, Neal Burcham
2012: Asiantii Woulard
2013: Sean White
2014: Blake Barnett
2015: Shea Patterson
2016: Tua Tagovailoa
2017: Justin Fields
2018: Spencer Rattler
2019: CJ Stroud

Really what this is, is an arm talent competition. It doesn't mean nothing, but it doesn't mean everything.
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Like 3 of this guys were good NFL QB’s
 
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