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umiamifan1

umiamifan1

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Last Saturday as I watched Mario put Tyler back into the game to start the second half, I wondered to myself: how much of this decision is attributed to ego? It was clear to almost all of us 5 minutes into the game that he didn't have it that day; his body language, accuracy and timing were all abysmal; and while I fully understood playing him until halftime, I could not justify him starting the third. Sure enough, Jake comes in midway through the quarter and the entire team's energy shifts on both sides of the ball. Why did it take so long though? Then I thought back to his decision to hire Gattis to implement a smash-mouth, Big 10-style approach---despite the fact that Lashlee was hugely successful running more RPO stuff with TVD last year and the obvious fact that our personnel didn't align optimally with Mario's preferred scheme. He had the rare luxury of inheriting an underachieving team with a projected first rounder at QB (and several promising prospects in the QB room behind him) and decided to build his offense around the run game instead...but why? Because that's the way he's always done it?

So how much of this is just him having too much pride to adapt? In regards to the QB decision, is it possible that he views Jake's promotion to starter as an admission of his own incompetence or failure? Similarly, is he not able to recognize that the painfully glacial pace of Gattis' offense doesn't give us the best opportunity to win games? Don't get it twisted, I know that Mario is a workaholic who is completely committed to rebuilding this program...but I'm not sure how much he's willing to acknowledge his own mistakes quickly and fix them. In my opinion, all great coaches have this quality -- the ability to quickly adapt to whatever the opponent or game throws at you...but sometimes HCs become stubborn and refuse to admit their mistakes. Golden stuck with us his boy D'Onofrio and it led to his downfall; Richt wouldn't fire his son so he fell on the sword instead. To Manny's credit, he actually DID make changes to both the offense and defense during the offseason that yielded positive results; but in the end, he was just in over his head. Mario has proven himself to be a very good HC at the P5 level and I know he wants us to be great again as much as anyone does. I just hope he's still able to grow as a coach and recognize that what worked at Oregon may not work in Miami.
 
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umiamifan1 said:
Last Saturday as I watched Mario put Tyler back into the game to start the second half, I wondered to myself: how much of this decision is attributed to ego? It was clear to almost all of us 5 minutes into the game that he didn't have it that day; his body language, accuracy and timing were all abysmal; and while I fully understood playing him until halftime, I could not justify him starting the third. Sure enough, Jake comes in midway through the quarter and the entire team's energy shifts on both sides of the ball. Why did it take so long though? Then I thought back to his decision to hire Gattis to implement a smash-mouth, Big 10-style approach---despite the fact that Lashlee was hugely successful running more RPO stuff with TVD last year and the obvious fact that our personnel didn't align optimally with Mario's preferred scheme. He had the rare luxury of inheriting an underachieving team with a projected first rounder at QB (and several promising prospects in the QB room behind him) and decided to build his offense around the run game instead...but why? Because that's the way he's always done it?

So how much of this is just him having too much pride to adapt? In regards to the QB decision, is it possible that he views Jake's promotion to starter as an admission of his own incompetence or failure? Similarly, is he not able to recognize that the painfully glacial pace of Gattis' offense doesn't give us the best opportunity to win games? Don't get it twisted, I know that Mario is a workaholic who is completely committed to rebuilding this program...but I'm not sure how much he's willing to acknowledge his own mistakes quickly and fix them. In my opinion, all great coaches have this quality -- the ability to quickly adapt to whatever the opponent or game throws at you...but sometimes HCs become stubborn and refuse to admit their mistakes. Golden stuck with us his boy D'Onofrio and it led to his downfall; Richt wouldn't fire his son so he fell on the sword instead. To Manny's credit, he actually DID make changes to both the offense and defense during the offseason that yielded positive results; but in the end, he was just in over his head. Mario has proven himself to be a very good HC at the P5 level and I know he wants us to be great again as much as anyone does. I just hope he's still able to grow as a coach and recognize that what worked at Oregon may not work in Miami.
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Our team went 7-5 and people on here think we should’ve been 9-3 with a couple bounces, but with a couple bounces against us we just as easily could’ve been 4-8.

Last really week sucked. A&M sucked. We’re in year 1 of a rebuild and our coaches haven’t tailored the offense to the guys we have available/we don’t have the guys available to run the game plans our coaches prefer. Add in injuries to key contributors for a cherry on top. I have really low expectations for the remainder of the year.

Whatever I’m still a Canes fan and hope to see improvement.

we knew from the jump Mario’s expertise isn’t in leading CFB with new groundbreaking schemes, but we trust that with time, his recruiting and development will get our guys and program to a higher level where we’ll be competing for conference championships every year with occasional CFB bids probably.

We’re allowed to be disappointed but I definitely let myself get carried away by the expectations people on here had and got hooked on the koolaid.
 
umiamifan1 said:
Last Saturday as I watched Mario put Tyler back into the game to start the second half, I wondered to myself: how much of this decision is attributed to ego? It was clear to almost all of us 5 minutes into the game that he didn't have it that day; his body language, accuracy and timing were all abysmal; and while I fully understood playing him until halftime, I could not justify him starting the third. Sure enough, Jake comes in midway through the quarter and the entire team's energy shifts on both sides of the ball. Why did it take so long though? Then I thought back to his decision to hire Gattis to implement a smash-mouth, Big 10-style approach---despite the fact that Lashlee was hugely successful running more RPO stuff with TVD last year and the obvious fact that our personnel didn't align optimally with Mario's preferred scheme. He had the rare luxury of inheriting an underachieving team with a projected first rounder at QB (and several promising prospects in the QB room behind him) and decided to build his offense around the run game instead...but why? Because that's the way he's always done it?

So how much of this is just him having too much pride to adapt? In regards to the QB decision, is it possible that he views Jake's promotion to starter as an admission of his own incompetence or failure? Similarly, is he not able to recognize that the painfully glacial pace of Gattis' offense doesn't give us the best opportunity to win games? Don't get it twisted, I know that Mario is a workaholic who is completely committed to rebuilding this program...but I'm not sure how much he's willing to acknowledge his own mistakes quickly and fix them. In my opinion, all great coaches have this quality -- the ability to quickly adapt to whatever the opponent or game throws at you...but sometimes HCs become stubborn and refuse to admit their mistakes. Golden stuck with us his boy D'Onofrio and it led to his downfall; Richt wouldn't fire his son so he fell on the sword instead. To Manny's credit, he actually DID make changes to both the offense and defense during the offseason that yielded positive results; but in the end, he was just in over his head. Mario has proven himself to be a very good HC at the P5 level and I know he wants us to be great again as much as anyone does. I just hope he's still able to grow as a coach and recognize that what worked at Oregon may not work in Miami.
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Agre with most of what you said, however we never had a running game under lashee
 
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If nick Saban can change so can Mario but if I was a betting man he never will. 4 games in I don’t expect much from Mario during his decade he will be here minimum. That’s unbelievable given how I thought we were at the very least heading in right direction a few months ago… now not so much and it starts at the top
 
umiamifan1 said:
Last Saturday as I watched Mario put Tyler back into the game to start the second half, I wondered to myself: how much of this decision is attributed to ego? It was clear to almost all of us 5 minutes into the game that he didn't have it that day; his body language, accuracy and timing were all abysmal; and while I fully understood playing him until halftime, I could not justify him starting the third. Sure enough, Jake comes in midway through the quarter and the entire team's energy shifts on both sides of the ball. Why did it take so long though? Then I thought back to his decision to hire Gattis to implement a smash-mouth, Big 10-style approach---despite the fact that Lashlee was hugely successful running more RPO stuff with TVD last year and the obvious fact that our personnel didn't align optimally with Mario's preferred scheme. He had the rare luxury of inheriting an underachieving team with a projected first rounder at QB (and several promising prospects in the QB room behind him) and decided to build his offense around the run game instead...but why? Because that's the way he's always done it?

So how much of this is just him having too much pride to adapt? In regards to the QB decision, is it possible that he views Jake's promotion to starter as an admission of his own incompetence or failure? Similarly, is he not able to recognize that the painfully glacial pace of Gattis' offense doesn't give us the best opportunity to win games? Don't get it twisted, I know that Mario is a workaholic who is completely committed to rebuilding this program...but I'm not sure how much he's willing to acknowledge his own mistakes quickly and fix them. In my opinion, all great coaches have this quality -- the ability to quickly adapt to whatever the opponent or game throws at you...but sometimes HCs become stubborn and refuse to admit their mistakes. Golden stuck with us his boy D'Onofrio and it led to his downfall; Richt wouldn't fire his son so he fell on the sword instead. To Manny's credit, he actually DID make changes to both the offense and defense during the offseason that yielded positive results; but in the end, he was just in over his head. Mario has proven himself to be a very good HC at the P5 level and I know he wants us to be great again as much as anyone does. I just hope he's still able to grow as a coach and recognize that what worked at Oregon may not work in Miami.
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Did u see mts bomb us like Pearl Harbor
Even southern miss was dropping bombs
Our defense is trash and keeping them off the field is a good thing
Imagine if lashlee was going three n out over and over again
Ppl forget lashlee and tvd was long stretches of horrible offense
They just had big plays to bail them out
More than pace
The issue is spacing play design and play calling
 
Allabouttheu95 said:
If nick Saban can change so can Mario but if I was a betting man he never will. 4 games in I don’t expect much from Mario during his decade he will be here minimum. That’s unbelievable given how I thought we were at the very least heading in right direction a few months ago… now not so much and it starts at the top
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He changes if life wallet demands it
We need Ruiz on this
Curious to know what he thinks
 
jsy said:
Did u see mts bomb us like Pearl Harbor
Even southern miss was dropping bombs
Our defense is trash and keeping them off the field is a good thing
Imagine if lashlee was going three n out over and over again
Ppl forget lashlee and tvd was long stretches of horrible offense
They just had big plays to bail them out
More than pace
The issue is spacing play design and play calling
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jsy said:
He changes if life wallet demands it
We need Ruiz on this
Curious to know what he thinks
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If you use periods "." you can type out a whole thought and continue that thought without making it look like you're trying to write a poem. Just an FYI.
 
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umiamifan1 said:
Last Saturday as I watched Mario put Tyler back into the game to start the second half, I wondered to myself: how much of this decision is attributed to ego? It was clear to almost all of us 5 minutes into the game that he didn't have it that day; his body language, accuracy and timing were all abysmal; and while I fully understood playing him until halftime, I could not justify him starting the third. Sure enough, Jake comes in midway through the quarter and the entire team's energy shifts on both sides of the ball. Why did it take so long though? Then I thought back to his decision to hire Gattis to implement a smash-mouth, Big 10-style approach---despite the fact that Lashlee was hugely successful running more RPO stuff with TVD last year and the obvious fact that our personnel didn't align optimally with Mario's preferred scheme. He had the rare luxury of inheriting an underachieving team with a projected first rounder at QB (and several promising prospects in the QB room behind him) and decided to build his offense around the run game instead...but why? Because that's the way he's always done it?

So how much of this is just him having too much pride to adapt? In regards to the QB decision, is it possible that he views Jake's promotion to starter as an admission of his own incompetence or failure? Similarly, is he not able to recognize that the painfully glacial pace of Gattis' offense doesn't give us the best opportunity to win games? Don't get it twisted, I know that Mario is a workaholic who is completely committed to rebuilding this program...but I'm not sure how much he's willing to acknowledge his own mistakes quickly and fix them. In my opinion, all great coaches have this quality -- the ability to quickly adapt to whatever the opponent or game throws at you...but sometimes HCs become stubborn and refuse to admit their mistakes. Golden stuck with us his boy D'Onofrio and it led to his downfall; Richt wouldn't fire his son so he fell on the sword instead. To Manny's credit, he actually DID make changes to both the offense and defense during the offseason that yielded positive results; but in the end, he was just in over his head. Mario has proven himself to be a very good HC at the P5 level and I know he wants us to be great again as much as anyone does. I just hope he's still able to grow as a coach and recognize that what worked at Oregon may not work in Miami.
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There hasn’t been a decision announced yet on who is going to be the QB vs UNC so let’s wait and see.
 
Allabouttheu95 said:
If nick Saban can change so can Mario but if I was a betting man he never will. 4 games in I don’t expect much from Mario during his decade he will be here minimum. That’s unbelievable given how I thought we were at the very least heading in right direction a few months ago… now not so much and it starts at the top
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This says it all.

Everything was "heading in the right direction"—until the man actually had to go win football games with a team that went 7-5 last year—and could've easily have been 4-8 last year if TVD didn't have a few miracle games—bailed out by Harley and Rambo, too.

Same for 8-3 with Deriq King in 2020; that's 4-7 if King didn't work some miracles of his own.

Lashlee went 7-5 last year, airing it out a hundred times a game, with no ground game—and now he's suddenly the program's answer to everything and the offensive guru. Hilarious.

Our fans also get overhyped by off-season nonsense. A recruit here or there, big rah-rah-talk and the fact things are technically on the right track with a new staff—as if they don't have to come in and do all the work with a team full of scrubs.

Four games with this program's third head coach in five seasons and sixth head coach in 17 years (and God knows how many assistants / coordinators)—a program that averaged 7-5 over the past 16 years (118-85 since 2005 Peach Bowl)—and people are shocked Mario hasn't cracked the nut 1/3 of the way through the season.
 
ItsAUThing.com said:
This says it all.

Everything was "heading in the right direction"—until the man actually had to go win football games with a team that went 7-5 last year—and could've easily have been 4-8 last year if TVD didn't have a few miracle games—bailed out by Harley and Rambo, too.

Same for 8-3 with Deriq King in 2020; that's 4-7 if King didn't work some miracles of his own.

Lashlee went 7-5 last year, airing it out a hundred times a game, with no ground game—and now he's suddenly the program's answer to everything and the offensive guru. Hilarious.

Our fans also get overhyped by off-season nonsense. A recruit here or there, big rah-rah-talk and the fact things are technically on the right track with a new staff—as if they don't have to come in and do all the work with a team full of scrubs.

Four games with this program's third head coach in five seasons and sixth head coach in 17 years (and God knows how many assistants / coordinators)—a program that averaged 7-5 over the past 16 years (118-85 since 2005 Peach Bowl)—and people are shocked Mario hasn't cracked the nut 1/3 of the way through the season.
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It’s a 100 million dollar staff. And a coach that aggressively attacked the portal. There’s no excuses anymore
 
Every ******* year coaches “make it simple”. We’ll coached teams are going to murderize us.
 
Allabouttheu95 said:
It’s a 100 million dollar staff. And a coach that aggressively attacked the portal. There’s no excuses anymore
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No excuse for Saturday but you can see this team has serious talent issues in many areas along with questionable scheme/play calling.
 
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jsy said:
Did u see mts bomb us like Pearl Harbor
Even southern miss was dropping bombs
Our defense is trash and keeping them off the field is a good thing
Imagine if lashlee was going three n out over and over again
Ppl forget lashlee and tvd was long stretches of horrible offense
They just had big plays to bail them out
More than pace
The issue is spacing play design and play calling
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Naa people were wide open all game. What team were you watching?
 
cway313 said:
Naa people were wide open all game. What team were you watching?
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I meant like running straight into 9 man fronts
No well called middle screens
Split screens pa bootleg
The pass plays are actually not to bad
A lot of the misses is just on tvd failing to look off his primary target or just missing them
 
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