Duke vs Georgia Tech Saturday at noon

[TaylorWalls]

Okay what about our NIL budget vs theirs, our recruiting vs theirs, our admissions vs theirs

Sorry that Miami football has higher standards than GT. Next your going to compare us to Oregon State.

*you're

If he is such a great coach, he should be able to game plan more than six points against Virginia Tech, right?

 

[TaylorWalls]

Honestly, who cares they’ve beaten us the last two years that’s all that I’m worried about and King is still their quarterback and Key is still their coach.

Why are you worried about Georgia Tech if they're not on our schedule?

 

[TaylorWalls]

They are thinking Iike people who follow Cristobal coached teams. His teams are GUARANTEED to have 1-2 clunkers every season so obviously that same thing will happen to other programs. Wrong.

Like you said, the HCs at UVA and GT have their teams running with machine-like efficiency. They bring the same intensity no matter the opponent. Neither UVA nor GT have enough top end talent to beat elite teams, but they will at least get the chance to play those teams in the playoffs because they are consistent week after week. Miami does have the talent to beat the elite teams but it isn’t ever going to get the chance to show it in the playoffs because in all his years as a P4 HC, Cristobal has NEVER had a team that was able to bring the same consistency and intensity for an entire regular season.

If that's how Brent Key coaches, why did he just start doing it this year?

 

[BALLHAWKU]

No chance we could stop King IMO.

Depends on which team shows up . Keon. Needs to blitzing of the tackle on teams like that . Or the blitz would take him out the play. I also believe we need to change the lbs out . Wiley is to **** good to be on the bench . I think Mack needs to be moved to safety .

 

[QuattroCane]

Why are you worried about Georgia Tech if they're not on our schedule?

I’m not really worried about them at all. The conversation was centered more along the lines of whether they would beat us or not and whether we were a good matchup. Yes I think they would beat us and I think they’re a bad matchup for us.
I’ll admit I’m pretty down right now, I made the mistake of re-watching the game and it was a lot worse than it felt at the end last night. Which considering how it ended is saying something.

 

[WeBallinBoyz]

ACC championship

uva is not going undefeated in the acc

I do understand your point, but even if we win out, UVA can lose 1 ACC game (as long as it’s not VT) and still get in over us since one of the tiebreakers is H2H record against common conference opponents.

That’s why this Louisville loss hurt in multiple ways, and if you look at UVA’s schedule, it’s very friendly.

UNC
Cal
Wake
Duke
VT

 

[TheShredder]

I do understand your point, but even if we win out, UVA can lose 1 ACC game (as long as it’s not VT) and still get in over us since one of the tiebreakers is H2H record against common conference opponents.

That’s why this Louisville loss hurt in multiple ways, and if you look at UVA’s schedule, it’s very friendly.

UNC
Cal
Wake
Duke
VT

So with 2 losses they still get in over us?

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

If that's how Brent Key coaches, why did he just start doing it this year?

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This is only his 3rd year as a HC. You know that “culture” thing that people say Cristobal is all about? Key has actually been building that culture of smart, physical football. say what you will about GT and UVA, but these are elite academic schools with intelligent players.

Miami is the same heavily penalized, undisciplined team it was when Cristobal got here 4 years ago, just with better talent.

 

[TaylorWalls]

?

This is only his 3rd year as a HC. You know that “culture” thing that people say Cristobal is all about? Key has actually been building that culture of smart, physical football. say what you will about GT and UVA, but these are elite academic schools with intelligent players.

Miami is the same undisciplined team it was when Cristobal got here 4 years ago, just with better talent.

So he could only score six points against Virginia Tech because the culture wasn't there yet?

This has been true since Grassy: our fans bend over backwards making excuses for other coaches that they would never accept for our own coach.

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

So he could only score six points against Virginia Tech because the culture wasn't there yet?

This has been true since Grassy: our fans bend over backwards making excuses for other coaches that they would never accept for our own coach.

I think it’s understandable for their players to be physically beat up after being outclassed by Notre Dame and then having to travel to Blacksburg for a rivalry game against a team with an equal amount of talent. And right after that loss to VT, they rebounded with a win over #4 Miami. So yes, that is culture. They didn’t fold after the VT loss and then beat the most explosive offense in the country. They beat NC St after that and ended the regular season with an 8 OT loss to Georgia. Losing to equally talented or vastly more talented teams doesn’t mean a coach has failed at building culture.

Did Miami just escape a vastly more talented FSU team that physically beat us up, and then we had to go on the road against an equally talented Louisville team 6 days later? If we did, then you are right, I’m holding Cristobal to an unfair standard.

 

[TaylorWalls]

I think it’s understandable for their players to be physically beat up after being outclassed by Notre Dame and then having to travel to Blacksburg for a rivalry game against a team with an equal amount of talent. And right after that loss to VT, they rebounded with a win over #4 Miami.

Did Miami just escape a vastly more talented FSU team that physically beat us up, and then we had to go on the road against an equally talented Louisville team 6 days later? If we did, then you are right, I’m holding Cristobal to an unfair standard.

Ah, found an excuse for one of the six losses.

 

[CityboyCanes4life82]

They are thinking Iike people who follow Cristobal coached teams. His teams are GUARANTEED to have 1-2 clunkers every season so obviously that same thing will happen to other programs. Wrong.

Like you said, the HCs at UVA and GT have their teams running with machine-like efficiency. They bring the same intensity no matter the opponent. Neither UVA nor GT have enough top end talent to beat elite teams, but they will at least get the chance to play those teams in the playoffs because they are consistent week after week. Miami does have the talent to beat the elite teams but it isn’t ever going to get the chance to show it in the playoffs because in all his years as a P4 HC, Cristobal has NEVER had a team that was able to bring the same consistency and intensity for an entire regular season.

We do not control our own fate and a part of the reason is the scheduling quirk that the two teams who are currently leading the ACC don’t face each other. It’s just random bad luck. Both have easy schedules and are very likely to win out. In most years you could still get to the ACC championship with 1 conference loss because the other teams would knock each other off in a head to head. This year we didn’t have the margin for error. I don’t the playoff committee will take 3 ACC teams. If UVA and GT get to the ACC championship undefeated, the loser gets the second spot. We are out. A 2 loss P2 will get the nod before Miami because of the conference perception.

It doesn’t matter if we make it to the ACC championship game. If we win out, we are in. What would definitely help would be dominating everyone on our schedule

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

Ah, found an excuse for one of the six losses.

Tell me- which of those 6 games did they lose where they were double digit favorites and had a clear talent advantage?

Let’s take this out out of the subjective realm and go with hard numbers.

2024 GT Talent composite score 702 (46)

6 losses
Syracuse 698 (48)
Vandy 695 (50)
VT 695 (52)
Louisville 739 (36)
Notre dame 905 (9)
UGA 1008 (2)

So in which of those games do you think GT was clearly the more talented team and lost to a far inferior opponent?

 

[TaylorWalls]

Tell me- which of those 6 games did they lose where they were double digit favorites and had a clear talent advantage?

Let’s take this out out of the subjective realm and go with hard numbers.

2024 GT Talent composite score 702 (46)

6 losses
Syracuse 698 (48)
Vandy 695 (50)
VT 695 (52)
Louisville 739 (36)
Notre dame 905 (9)
UGA 1008 (2)

So in which of those games do you think GT was clearly the more talented team and lost to a far inferior opponent?

Wait, so you're only expected to win if you have the more talented team against a far inferior opponent? So much for "outcoaching" anyone.

 

[F-MarioCristobal]

I love it when people say this without realizing that Brent KeySaban lost six games last year.

He’s at GT, which is more than enough reason by itself, and that was year 2 at the helm and he’s 2-0 against Mario Cristobal lol

This off season, they lost their starting LT with a 1st-2nd round grade and their best weapon on offense, who also had a 1st round grade. And how many games did King miss?

What would Mario do if Cici and Toney both could come back next year and both left via the portal? Certainly wouldn’t be 7-0 and top 10 in the country.

 

[Negro-Wan Kanobi]

So we're depending on teams to lose for us to be embarrassed again? Lol

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

Wait, so you're only expected to win if you have the more talented team against a far inferior opponent? So much for "outcoaching" anyone.

I am a simple man with a simple mind. Start by always beating the teams where you have a huge talent advantage. I will worry about outcoaching more talented teams after that.